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RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland

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  • canefanC canefan

    @Nepia said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    @KiwiMurph said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    Beauden practicing drop goals all week.

    BB's default these days is to kick so I think he'd be quite good at this. Although, he might be dumb enough to try them from out 22.

    I hope not, otherwise....

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    @canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

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    and all this time I thought it was a sprig

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2023/06/super-rugby-pacific-beauden-barrett-reveals-how-close-heel-injury-came-to-ending-world-cup-hopes.html

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      Just been told my wife is away and its on at the rugby club so I don't have to watch it surrounded by my Irish inlaws.

      So week off to a good start.

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        I went with the All Blacks.
        Can't fathom how many people are underestimating the ABs - plus Ireland are going to have that RWC QF monkey on their back slowing them down...

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          I'd love us to have a Merhts moment on Sunday...

          Andrew-Mehrtens-zap.jpg630.jpg

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          • Billy WebbB Billy Webb

            I went with the All Blacks.
            Can't fathom how many people are underestimating the ABs - plus Ireland are going to have that RWC QF monkey on their back slowing them down...

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            @Billy-Webb what's your tipping form been like so far in the competition Billy? Just wondering if it merits a hedge 😄

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              There is zero logic behind this, particularly considering the dross served up by the Foster regime the past 4 years, but I have this feeling that the Irish are walking into a trap. Possibly (probably) nationalistic delusion, but we have the weapons to beat these fůckers. We had our party spoilt for 20 odd years. Time we did the same.

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              • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

                There is zero logic behind this, particularly considering the dross served up by the Foster regime the past 4 years, but I have this feeling that the Irish are walking into a trap. Possibly (probably) nationalistic delusion, but we have the weapons to beat these fůckers. We had our party spoilt for 20 odd years. Time we did the same.

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                @Rancid-Schnitzel said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                There is zero logic behind this, particularly considering the dross served up by the Foster regime the past 4 years, but I have this feeling that the Irish are walking into a trap. Possibly (probably) nationalistic delusion, but we have the weapons to beat these fůckers. We had our party spoilt for 20 odd years. Time we did the same.

                My feeling as well. 17 straight victories, some hard games on the trot, a loving Irish press, coach saying they will just get better, old Irish players fanning the love... it all screams "trip up" to me. But again, maybe delusional optimism causing me to see things that aren't there....

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                  I wouldn’t pick one Irish player in a combined NZ/Ireland Father Ted’s XV….

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                    Win or Lose I want to hear the Irish media bitching for a week about our physicality just like they did after we played them in Dublin the week after the Soldiers field lose.

                    I feel like this nicey nicey PR shit that the NZRFU is so adamant about has infected our attitude on the pitch. If it needs to die a death for us to go back to a team that just smashes other teams so be it.

                    The NH will talk shit about us either way so let them write their stories. God I am fired up for this match the weekend can't come soon enough.

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                    • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

                      There is zero logic behind this, particularly considering the dross served up by the Foster regime the past 4 years, but I have this feeling that the Irish are walking into a trap. Possibly (probably) nationalistic delusion, but we have the weapons to beat these fůckers. We had our party spoilt for 20 odd years. Time we did the same.

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                      @Rancid-Schnitzel said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                      There is zero logic behind this, particularly considering the dross served up by the Foster regime the past 4 years, but I have this feeling that the Irish are walking into a trap. Possibly (probably) nationalistic delusion, but we have the weapons to beat these fůckers. We had our party spoilt for 20 odd years. Time we did the same.

                      This is the only way I actually see us winning - if there is actually some dry powder that Foz, Schmidt et al have been working on that will take the Paddies so much by surprise that they simply do not know how to react. We basically need a repeat of the 2019 QF

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                        Any chance of Fozzie getting Covid before weekend?

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                          Any chance of Fozzie getting Covid before weekend?

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                          @pakman said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                          Any chance of Fozzie getting Covid before weekend?

                          Not sure if you’re saying Covid or covered or covert? When I read online the NZ accent can be hard to understand.

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                            @Rancid-Schnitzel said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                            There is zero logic behind this, particularly considering the dross served up by the Foster regime the past 4 years, but I have this feeling that the Irish are walking into a trap. Possibly (probably) nationalistic delusion, but we have the weapons to beat these fůckers. We had our party spoilt for 20 odd years. Time we did the same.

                            This is the only way I actually see us winning - if there is actually some dry powder that Foz, Schmidt et al have been working on that will take the Paddies so much by surprise that they simply do not know how to react. We basically need a repeat of the 2019 QF

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                            @junior New hybrid defensive system? Would be surprised, but against Boks at Mount Smart I seem to recall NZ used outside defensive shooters (like Boks do with Faf de Klerk). So far in the world cup, they have used their passive defence system.

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                              Some random thoughts.

                              1. This is Ireland’s match to lose. Nobody, I mean nobody, is expecting the ABs to win. If Eddie was coaching maate pressure would be chasing Andy Farrell down the street maate.

                              2. The ABs are not as bad as so many people are making out.

                              3. Ireland are not as good as so many people are making out.

                              I acknowledge they are the undisputed number 1 best team in the world at the moment. Their whole is way way more than the sum of their parts. But seriously, who amongst their XV, or even XXIII, is realistically in the conversation for a greatest all time team? I see some idiot was trying to crowbar Sexton into contention ... but DC, Wilkinson ...

                              Sexton is in the convo with Lynagh, Mehrts, Naas, Fox etc in that next level.

                              I think about the respect I had for England in '03, and how I reluctantly acknowledged that they were easily number 1, and really deserved their RWC because they dominated and had so many players in the conversation for the best ever: Johnson, Dallaglio, Hill, Wilkinson...

                              I maintain, this Irish mob have ... ummm ... who?

                              But again I'll acknowledge they are greater than the sum of their parts.

                              But is that whole really good enough?

                              ... Back to us ...

                              1. How pissed off will I be if we lose?

                              Funnily enough I don't expect us to win. In 36 years of World Cups I have never said that. In probably 45 years of following the ABs I've likely said that twice, maybe three times (and we won ... ).

                              So us losing will not be 1991-2007 level devastation, or even 2019 type disappointment. Expectation is just not there. A win will be a delightful surprise.

                              Is this how the rest of the world watches rugby? Without expectation? How much fun is that?

                              Anyway Ireland, enjoy hate watching for everything that could go wrong under the crushing weight of expectation...

                              1. One last thought. If perchance we lose, then thank fuck we are spared continual FDS from this weekend on.

                              Personally I really hope we get Foster fat jokes for another two weeks. But if we don't at least there's a silver lining.

                              More random thoughts as they occur...

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                                @Billy-Webb what's your tipping form been like so far in the competition Billy? Just wondering if it merits a hedge 😄

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                                @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                @Billy-Webb what's your tipping form been like so far in the competition Billy? Just wondering if it merits a hedge 😄

                                It's actually been pretty good results wise (not points difference though).
                                Hedge away 🙂

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                                  Some random thoughts.

                                  1. This is Ireland’s match to lose. Nobody, I mean nobody, is expecting the ABs to win. If Eddie was coaching maate pressure would be chasing Andy Farrell down the street maate.

                                  2. The ABs are not as bad as so many people are making out.

                                  3. Ireland are not as good as so many people are making out.

                                  I acknowledge they are the undisputed number 1 best team in the world at the moment. Their whole is way way more than the sum of their parts. But seriously, who amongst their XV, or even XXIII, is realistically in the conversation for a greatest all time team? I see some idiot was trying to crowbar Sexton into contention ... but DC, Wilkinson ...

                                  Sexton is in the convo with Lynagh, Mehrts, Naas, Fox etc in that next level.

                                  I think about the respect I had for England in '03, and how I reluctantly acknowledged that they were easily number 1, and really deserved their RWC because they dominated and had so many players in the conversation for the best ever: Johnson, Dallaglio, Hill, Wilkinson...

                                  I maintain, this Irish mob have ... ummm ... who?

                                  But again I'll acknowledge they are greater than the sum of their parts.

                                  But is that whole really good enough?

                                  ... Back to us ...

                                  1. How pissed off will I be if we lose?

                                  Funnily enough I don't expect us to win. In 36 years of World Cups I have never said that. In probably 45 years of following the ABs I've likely said that twice, maybe three times (and we won ... ).

                                  So us losing will not be 1991-2007 level devastation, or even 2019 type disappointment. Expectation is just not there. A win will be a delightful surprise.

                                  Is this how the rest of the world watches rugby? Without expectation? How much fun is that?

                                  Anyway Ireland, enjoy hate watching for everything that could go wrong under the crushing weight of expectation...

                                  1. One last thought. If perchance we lose, then thank fuck we are spared continual FDS from this weekend on.

                                  Personally I really hope we get Foster fat jokes for another two weeks. But if we don't at least there's a silver lining.

                                  More random thoughts as they occur...

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                                  @booboo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                  Some random thoughts...
                                  2. The ABs are not as bad and so many people are making out.

                                  Yup, that was random!

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                                    The start in this game will be so important. If one side gets an early lead the doubts will set in. This is the first RWC ever where NZ are clear underdogs. No one really gives us a chance.

                                    I trust the game is not decided by red cards.

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                                      @KiwiMurph said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                      Keep the scoreboard ticking over.

                                      See, it’s with cliches like this that we are destined to win.

                                      We will only keep the scoreboard ticking over if we play what’s in front of us…

                                      😎

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                                      @ACT-Crusader said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                      @KiwiMurph said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                      Keep the scoreboard ticking over.

                                      See, it’s with cliches like this that we are destined to win.

                                      We will only keep the scoreboard ticking over if we play what’s in front of us…

                                      😎

                                      I'm pretty disgusted you've ignored my earlier effort.

                                      Still going with "choose life" I reckon.

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                                      • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                                        The start in this game will be so important. If one side gets an early lead the doubts will set in. This is the first RWC ever where NZ are clear underdogs. No one really gives us a chance.

                                        I trust the game is not decided by red cards.

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                                        @Billy-Tell said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                        The start in this game will be so important. If one side gets an early lead the doubts will set in.

                                        Until halftime when... you got it!

                                        It's nil all guys.

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                                          Irish injury list: Hansen, Henshaw, Lowe, Earls, Ryan. All quite doubtful, according to Irish media.

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                                          @pakman said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                          Irish injury list: Hansen, Henshaw, Lowe, Earls, Ryan. All quite doubtful, according to Irish media.

                                          Update just provided from Ireland team manager, Mick Kearney:

                                          “James Ryan is seeing a specialist and we are hoping for better news than originally anticipated,” said Mick Kearney. “Mack Hansen took a bang to his calf but is improving. Both him and James are making good strides. Keith Earls and Robbie Henshaw are both in contention and apart from that just the usual bumps and bruises.
                                          “No call ups,” said the Irish manager. “No one has been added to the squad and at this stage no one is ruled out for the match against New Zealand on Saturday night."

                                          Slightly better news than expected but the team selection will tell the up to date story.

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