RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland
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“Kearney was also keen to point out that Schmidt laid a lot of the foundations before Farrell took over.
"I think a lot, to be honest with you," he said when asked about how much of the bedrock was still there from the Schmidt era.
"If you remember back initially when he took over we didn’t have [forwards coach] Paul O’Connell at that stage. Paul came in and Paul was probably one of Joe’s biggest fans and, I think as a coach, learned a huge amount from Joe.
"I think he’s put into practice a lot of the habits that Joe instilled into the team and even uses some of the language that Joe used as well so I think that there has been a lot of what Joe did in his period of time that we still use.
"But obviously with Andy as head coach and Mike Catt as attack/backs coach, there has been a fair bit of tweaking as well. We play a very different game to what we played under Joe, much more I suppose ball-in-hand focused and 15-man focused.
"But just to go back to the question, certainly Paul has honestly brought a lot of what Joe brought to the team and no doubt that we benefit from that still."
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@MN5 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@DaGrubster said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Ok, not desperate then. Highly motivated to prove that they are a better side after being written off all week.
If they can't get up for this one... How many times have we said this about the Fozz blacks only to see them falter? I dare them to prove us wrong
Would be Foster era in a nutshell if we spank Ireland then lose to Wales.
If the ABs get past Ireland ( massive IF there ) I really don’t see Wales or Argentina putting up enough fight to stop them getting into the final.
Your mob were saying the same about England last go round
@MiketheSnow said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@MN5 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@DaGrubster said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Ok, not desperate then. Highly motivated to prove that they are a better side after being written off all week.
If they can't get up for this one... How many times have we said this about the Fozz blacks only to see them falter? I dare them to prove us wrong
Would be Foster era in a nutshell if we spank Ireland then lose to Wales.
If the ABs get past Ireland ( massive IF there ) I really don’t see Wales or Argentina putting up enough fight to stop them getting into the final.
Your mob were saying the same about England last go round
At least England had some ability.
Why are Wales good all of a sudden because they got out of jail vs Fiji, and smoked the worst Australian side of the modern era... lets not forget the struggles vs Portugal as well.
Argentina also have been rubbish at this WC and have benefitted majorly from a weak pool... of the two, they are more likely of upsetting the applecart in the semis, but I'd be stunned if one of NZ and Ireland aren't in the final.
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@MiketheSnow said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@MN5 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@DaGrubster said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Ok, not desperate then. Highly motivated to prove that they are a better side after being written off all week.
If they can't get up for this one... How many times have we said this about the Fozz blacks only to see them falter? I dare them to prove us wrong
Would be Foster era in a nutshell if we spank Ireland then lose to Wales.
If the ABs get past Ireland ( massive IF there ) I really don’t see Wales or Argentina putting up enough fight to stop them getting into the final.
Your mob were saying the same about England last go round
At least England had some ability.
Why are Wales good all of a sudden because they got out of jail vs Fiji, and smoked the worst Australian side of the modern era... lets not forget the struggles vs Portugal as well.
Argentina also have been rubbish at this WC and have benefitted majorly from a weak pool... of the two, they are more likely of upsetting the applecart in the semis, but I'd be stunned if one of NZ and Ireland aren't in the final.
@frugby a bit of confidence can do amazing things.
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@frugby a bit of confidence can do amazing things.
@taniwharugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@frugby a bit of confidence can do amazing things.
Can't turn Wales into world-beaters though. I think they are unlikely to pick up their first ever win over the ABs in the Semis, and if Ireland get through, they will have the bit between their teeth.
With Cheika at the helm, Argentina are always a wildcard, but they've been rubbish this year really. I think Wales, Argentina, Fiji and England have all built their respective hype levels via the fact by far and away the four best sides on the world are on a crash course for each other. If one of those four sneaks through the back door it'll be England, but they've hardly been convincing, and will shoot themselves in the foot by shoehorning in Farrell at 12.
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@taniwharugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Machpants so they had us as faves for the test we won in SA last year?
Kinda proves my point about the TAB and thier odds setting?
Oh correct tab always over rate the abs. Like now, no way we should be paying 2$, 4$ would be more accurate. But the of times when they say abs are going lose, like the quarters, they're right
TAB pricing also reflects the knowledge that a large proportion of their Kiwi customers bet with their "hearts rather than heads". The ABs are almost always under the odds.
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@ACT-Crusader said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
I wouldn’t pick one Irish player in a combined NZ/Ireland Father Ted’s XV….
TBF you wouldn’t pick anyone outside of Canterbury at any time
@bayimports said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@ACT-Crusader said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
I wouldn’t pick one Irish player in a combined NZ/Ireland Father Ted’s XV….
TBF you wouldn’t pick anyone outside of Canterbury at any time
I’m open to the odd token.
Well if it all goes belly up this week, we can all get onboard the Santner bandwagon and bring home the CWC
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@DaGrubster said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Here you go
None ruled out at this stage but Ryan and Hansen probably look the least likely
They can get the fuck out with this shit. Getting their excuses in early, trying to steal our underdog status.
We’ve sacrificed a great deal for the underdog tag, be damned if they’re taking it off us now.
@voodoo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@DaGrubster said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Here you go
None ruled out at this stage but Ryan and Hansen probably look the least likely
They can get the fuck out with this shit. Getting their excuses in early, trying to steal our underdog status.
We’ve sacrificed a great deal for the underdog tag, be damned if they’re taking it off us now.
Ireland are the underdogs in the RWC. Never been past the quarters. Failed 117 times. In contrast, NZ perennial winners, always in the knockouts, best in the world, Beauden Barrett, Richie McCoy aka Sam Cane, Best coach in the world, NZ thoroughbreds vs Irish mongrels, etc, etc.
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4 things to consider:
- Ireland have never got past qtr final stage
- only 2 teams have ever recorded 18 wins in a row in the history of rugby.
- Ireland have never beaten NZ at a World Cup before
- Their former coach is now an AB coach plotting against them.
1 of those things would be tough for the Irish to overcome but 4 of them?
Surely the rugby gods will not let them overcome all 4?
Quite simply Nz have nothing to lose and will be written off by pretty much everyone.
I get the sense that this AB outfit will be a desperate side on Saturday and will turn up with a performance to blitz Ireland as we did against SA.
As far as I can see (hope!) we took the RC seriously then entered a long S&C programme to get ourselves in the best shape possible for the qtr finals (look at tamati Williams as proof of this) so we can play the high octane rugby and gameplan that we have seen glimpses of this year.
We all know Ireland are a highly cohesive side and have well established patterns - if we play like Scotland, then we will be easily contained by their defensive aystem but I think we are a far more dynamic side and will test them more than they have been tested for some time.
There is no doubt that Schmidt will be working overtime to undo them with some changes to our attack and bring something they haven’t seen from us.
If not and we lose, then fuck off Foz and hello razor!
@DaGrubster said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
4 things to consider:
- Ireland have never got past qtr final stage
- only 2 teams have ever recorded 18 wins in a row in the history of rugby.
- Ireland have never beaten NZ at a World Cup before
- Their former coach is now an AB coach plotting against them.
So if we lose and Ireland overcome those 4 things we retitle the Fozzie’s firsts thread to Fozzie’s Quadrella’s
I’ve been lurking on this site for 20 years and I haven’t seen this level of anxiousness before. Although when one bright spark posted that we were at peak oil it had a few nerves going…
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@DaGrubster said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
4 things to consider:
- Ireland have never got past qtr final stage
- only 2 teams have ever recorded 18 wins in a row in the history of rugby.
- Ireland have never beaten NZ at a World Cup before
- Their former coach is now an AB coach plotting against them.
So if we lose and Ireland overcome those 4 things we retitle the Fozzie’s firsts thread to Fozzie’s Quadrella’s
I’ve been lurking on this site for 20 years and I haven’t seen this level of anxiousness before. Although when one bright spark posted that we were at peak oil it had a few nerves going…
@ACT-Crusader said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@DaGrubster said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
4 things to consider:
- Ireland have never got past qtr final stage
- only 2 teams have ever recorded 18 wins in a row in the history of rugby.
- Ireland have never beaten NZ at a World Cup before
- Their former coach is now an AB coach plotting against them.
So if we lose and Ireland overcome those 4 things we retitle the Fozzie’s firsts thread to Fozzie’s Quadrella’s
I’ve been lurking on this site for 20 years and I haven’t seen this level of anxiousness before. Although when one bright spark posted that we were at peak oil it had a few nerves going…
- The point of the match
- If two have done it, why not three - same as 1 really. Too early anyway, Getting the record would be more interesting.
- See point 1. Plus they'd never won in NZ before.
- Look how that turned out in 2019....
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@voodoo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@DaGrubster said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Here you go
None ruled out at this stage but Ryan and Hansen probably look the least likely
They can get the fuck out with this shit. Getting their excuses in early, trying to steal our underdog status.
We’ve sacrificed a great deal for the underdog tag, be damned if they’re taking it off us now.
Ireland are the underdogs in the RWC. Never been past the quarters. Failed 117 times. In contrast, NZ perennial winners, always in the knockouts, best in the world, Beauden Barrett, Richie McCoy aka Sam Cane, Best coach in the world, NZ thoroughbreds vs Irish mongrels, etc, etc.
@Derm-McCrum said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@voodoo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@DaGrubster said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Here you go
None ruled out at this stage but Ryan and Hansen probably look the least likely
They can get the fuck out with this shit. Getting their excuses in early, trying to steal our underdog status.
We’ve sacrificed a great deal for the underdog tag, be damned if they’re taking it off us now.
Ireland are the underdogs in the RWC. Never been past the quarters. Failed 117 times. In contrast, NZ perennial winners, always in the knockouts, best in the world, Beauden Barrett, Richie McCoy aka Sam Cane, Best coach in the world, NZ thoroughbreds vs Irish mongrels, etc, etc.
:beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes: That is some real shenanigans, right there!
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@bayimports said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@ACT-Crusader said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
I wouldn’t pick one Irish player in a combined NZ/Ireland Father Ted’s XV….
TBF you wouldn’t pick anyone outside of Canterbury at any time
I’m open to the odd token.
Well if it all goes belly up this week, we can all get onboard the Santner bandwagon and bring home the CWC
@ACT-Crusader said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@bayimports said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@ACT-Crusader said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
I wouldn’t pick one Irish player in a combined NZ/Ireland Father Ted’s XV….
TBF you wouldn’t pick anyone outside of Canterbury at any time
I’m open to the odd token.
Well if it all goes belly up this week, we can all get onboard the Santner bandwagon and bring home the CWC
All you need is for Ireland do a late late call up of Jaeger this week, no token will be needed.
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@ACT-Crusader said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@bayimports said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@ACT-Crusader said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
I wouldn’t pick one Irish player in a combined NZ/Ireland Father Ted’s XV….
TBF you wouldn’t pick anyone outside of Canterbury at any time
I’m open to the odd token.
Well if it all goes belly up this week, we can all get onboard the Santner bandwagon and bring home the CWC
All you need is for Ireland do a late late call up of Jaeger this week, no token will be needed.
@Nepia said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@ACT-Crusader said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@bayimports said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@ACT-Crusader said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
I wouldn’t pick one Irish player in a combined NZ/Ireland Father Ted’s XV….
TBF you wouldn’t pick anyone outside of Canterbury at any time
I’m open to the odd token.
Well if it all goes belly up this week, we can all get onboard the Santner bandwagon and bring home the CWC
All you need is for Ireland do a late late call up of Jaeger this week, no token will be needed.
He's staying put apparently. He's had 3 overtures and turned them down.
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@Derm-McCrum said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@voodoo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@DaGrubster said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Here you go
None ruled out at this stage but Ryan and Hansen probably look the least likely
They can get the fuck out with this shit. Getting their excuses in early, trying to steal our underdog status.
We’ve sacrificed a great deal for the underdog tag, be damned if they’re taking it off us now.
Ireland are the underdogs in the RWC. Never been past the quarters. Failed 117 times. In contrast, NZ perennial winners, always in the knockouts, best in the world, Beauden Barrett, Richie McCoy aka Sam Cane, Best coach in the world, NZ thoroughbreds vs Irish mongrels, etc, etc.
:beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes: That is some real shenanigans, right there!
@Old-Samurai-Jack said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Derm-McCrum said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@voodoo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@DaGrubster said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Here you go
None ruled out at this stage but Ryan and Hansen probably look the least likely
They can get the fuck out with this shit. Getting their excuses in early, trying to steal our underdog status.
We’ve sacrificed a great deal for the underdog tag, be damned if they’re taking it off us now.
Ireland are the underdogs in the RWC. Never been past the quarters. Failed 117 times. In contrast, NZ perennial winners, always in the knockouts, best in the world, Beauden Barrett, Richie McCoy aka Sam Cane, Best coach in the world, NZ thoroughbreds vs Irish mongrels, etc, etc.
:beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes: That is some real shenanigans, right there!
Really? I don't know what you're talking about. NZ are revered in this country - the game this weekend is regarded as the pinnacle of every players' career. Each player knows when they face greatness - it's an honour only rarely bestowed. Ireland, I'm sure will do their best, not to disgrace such a game and give it their best shot.
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@Old-Samurai-Jack said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Derm-McCrum said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@voodoo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@DaGrubster said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Here you go
None ruled out at this stage but Ryan and Hansen probably look the least likely
They can get the fuck out with this shit. Getting their excuses in early, trying to steal our underdog status.
We’ve sacrificed a great deal for the underdog tag, be damned if they’re taking it off us now.
Ireland are the underdogs in the RWC. Never been past the quarters. Failed 117 times. In contrast, NZ perennial winners, always in the knockouts, best in the world, Beauden Barrett, Richie McCoy aka Sam Cane, Best coach in the world, NZ thoroughbreds vs Irish mongrels, etc, etc.
:beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes: That is some real shenanigans, right there!
Really? I don't know what you're talking about. NZ are revered in this country - the game this weekend is regarded as the pinnacle of every players' career. Each player knows when they face greatness - it's an honour only rarely bestowed. Ireland, I'm sure will do their best, not to disgrace such a game and give it their best shot.
@Derm-McCrum I heard both teams get participation certificates after as well, thats pretty cool.
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@Machpants not sure TAB odds setting for the ABs are a true gauge...
So the only game we were underdogs and won was SA last year?
@taniwharugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Machpants not sure TAB odds setting for the ABs are a true gauge...
So the only game we were underdogs and won was SA last year?
Doesn't surprise me, we’re usually the overdogs
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@taniwharugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Machpants so they had us as faves for the test we won in SA last year?
Kinda proves my point about the TAB and thier odds setting?
Oh correct tab always over rate the abs. Like now, no way we should be paying 2$, 4$ would be more accurate. But the of times when they say abs are going lose, like the quarters, they're right
@Machpants said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@taniwharugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Machpants so they had us as faves for the test we won in SA last year?
Kinda proves my point about the TAB and thier odds setting?
Oh correct tab always over rate the abs. Like now, no way we should be paying 2$, 4$ would be more accurate. But the of times when they say abs are going lose, like the quarters, they're right
Not overrated. Just set different odds as idiots like us bet with our hearts, and they need to adjust their odds. It's not a function of how the TAB rate the team's chances.
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@MN5 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@DaGrubster said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Ok, not desperate then. Highly motivated to prove that they are a better side after being written off all week.
If they can't get up for this one... How many times have we said this about the Fozz blacks only to see them falter? I dare them to prove us wrong
Would be Foster era in a nutshell if we spank Ireland then lose to Wales.
If the ABs get past Ireland ( massive IF there ) I really don’t see Wales or Argentina putting up enough fight to stop them getting into the final.
Your mob were saying the same about England last go round
@MiketheSnow said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@MN5 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@DaGrubster said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Ok, not desperate then. Highly motivated to prove that they are a better side after being written off all week.
If they can't get up for this one... How many times have we said this about the Fozz blacks only to see them falter? I dare them to prove us wrong
Would be Foster era in a nutshell if we spank Ireland then lose to Wales.
If the ABs get past Ireland ( massive IF there ) I really don’t see Wales or Argentina putting up enough fight to stop them getting into the final.
Your mob were saying the same about England last go round
Which mob? Pretty sure we all saw that as 50/50 at best.
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This reads weird; hundreds of posts of All Black fans trying to convince themselves they could win a quarter final.
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This reads weird; hundreds of posts of All Black fans trying to convince themselves they could win a quarter final.
@antipodean said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
This reads weird; hundreds of posts of All Black fans trying to convince themselves they could win a quarter final.
Abs could win, totally. Will we? No
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Honestly I think DMAC should be fullback.
I don’t mind the occasional chip kick. As long as it is used sparingly as part of a varied attach to keep Ireland on the back foot and guessing what we will come up with next.
If we see to many it is because we are running out of ideas asnd he simply cannot help himself from doing them as this is his only way he can make something happen.
@DaGrubster said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Honestly I think DMAC should be fullback.
I don’t mind the occasional chip kick. As long as it is used sparingly as part of a varied attach to keep Ireland on the back foot and guessing what we will come up with next.
If we see to many it is because we are running out of ideas asnd he simply cannot help himself from doing them as this is his only way he can make something happen.
OR Ireland see kicking the ball to BB as a good idea.. as 9/10 times he will put us under further pressure..
