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RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland

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  • F Frank

    @Victor-Meldrew said in [RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland]

    My only doubt about Roigard is if we are leading by two points and need to defend and his lack of experience in a tight game.

    Yeah, and this is based on the probably wrong assumption that we are actually leading and that Christie is going to pull off one miracle tackle after another that Roigard will somehow be unable to do.

    Picking Christie is pretty vintage Foster.
    A player that you know is bang average but conforms to a notion of safety first or some other nonsense.

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    @Frank said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    Picking Christie is pretty vintage Foster.
    A player that you know is bang average but conforms to a notion of safety first or some other nonsense a stopped clock is right once a day so the other 1,439 minutes don't matter.

    Worked for Taylor and Beauden.

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    • canefanC canefan

      @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

      @canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

      @Kiwiwomble said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

      @george33 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

      Got a feeling on the bench they will go for Christie over Roigard as well , experience needed

      can we get one of the "fluffy bunny" filters set up for the word "experience"?

      experience at being bang "average"? he's only got 19 tests so hardly a veteran who has been through some shit and come out on top...playing smith for 60-70 minutes is the fucking experience we need

      Ask yourself, in the last 15 minutes when everyone is tiring, and we want someone to do something brilliant that might just turn the game, does Roigard or Christie spring to mind?

      My only doubt about Roigard is if we are leading by two points and need to defend and his lack of experience in a tight game. Christie might a better bet in that case but I think Roigard is well worth the risk as he looks really confident and composed.

      Like the motto of my football team says, To Dare is to Do.

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      @canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

      Like the motto of my football team says, To Dare is to Do.

      Just because you're mentally prepared for endless disappoint, doesn't mean we all are...

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      • P PecoTrain

        @canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

        Like the motto of my football team says, To Dare is to Do.

        Just because you're mentally prepared for endless disappoint, doesn't mean we all are...

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        @PecoTrain said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

        @canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

        Like the motto of my football team says, To Dare is to Do.

        Just because you're mentally prepared for endless disappoint, doesn't mean we all are...

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        ๐Ÿ˜‰

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        • boobooB booboo

          @Derm-McCrum said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

          Apparently Jimmy O'Brien ate a Kimberley Mikado with his coffee this morning so it looks like he's not in the squad.

          None of that makes any sense to me.

          Ploise exploin ...

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          @booboo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

          @Derm-McCrum said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

          Apparently Jimmy O'Brien ate a Kimberley Mikado with his coffee this morning so it looks like he's not in the squad.

          None of that makes any sense to me.

          Ploise exploin ...

          I expect it has something to do with the following, but I'm still clueless
          https://adturds.co.uk/2011/04/05/kimberleys-mikado-and-coconut-creams-jacobs-mallow-advert/

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          • S stodders

            @NTA how do you think the game will go as an independent observer with no skin in the game? ๐Ÿ™‚

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            @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

            @NTA how do you think the game will go as an independent observer with no skin in the game? ๐Ÿ™‚

            AB defence is the problem.

            That's the headline.

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            • NTAN NTA

              @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

              @NTA how do you think the game will go as an independent observer with no skin in the game? ๐Ÿ™‚

              AB defence is the problem.

              That's the headline.

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              @NTA Problem because its passivity will allow Ireland too much space to play in?

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                They said everyone is available for selection.

                De Groot and Lomax are out 2 best props but have had little Ruby over the last 3 weeks.

                Do we start them both? Or start 1 and bench the other?

                Personally I think they will start De Groot and Laulala and bring a Lomax off the bench

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                @DaGrubster said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                De Groot and Lomax are out 2 best props but have had little Ruby over the last 3 weeks.

                They may be seasoned props, but it isn't Drunken Master. I doubt much ruby port is a good thing even for the front row in a RWC QF.

                More seriously, I doubt the last 2 games would have really tested them and I'd rather they be fighting fit (and in De Groot's case, a little more canny with tackle technique). I just hope Lomax is fully fit as he has been the quiet achiever in the front tow, while I just appreciate De Groot's energy and aggression (the jury seems to be out on how good he really is as a scrummager).

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                • NTAN NTA

                  @Bones said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                  I'm a genus

                  The genus of homo sapiens is homo, so....

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                  @NTA said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                  @Bones said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                  I'm a genus

                  The genus of homo sapiens is homo, so....

                  which means man. You're calling Bones a man*. Big call in this frenzied forum of hot Polish ladies.

                  *Yes I know it really means human being, but for all we know a poster could be ShatGPT.

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                  • NTAN NTA

                    @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                    @NTA how do you think the game will go as an independent observer with no skin in the game? ๐Ÿ™‚

                    AB defence is the problem.

                    That's the headline.

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                    @NTA said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                    @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                    @NTA how do you think the game will go as an independent observer with no skin in the game? ๐Ÿ™‚

                    AB defence is the problem.

                    That's the headline.

                    Thank god for that, I thought it was also our exits, tactical kicking, dumbarsed panic, on-off forwards, mercurial 10 and midfield, headless bench, and inferior coaching.

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                      #561

                      Random reports on random stuff I've heard on the internerd ...

                      Rugby Direct Podcast
                      https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/podcasts/rugby-direct/
                      Smith and Napier did a combined Irish / All Black XV.

                      They essentially Fitzy'ed it in favour of Ireland.

                      A couple of Kiwis got a mention, Smith picked Taylor for example, but generally they picked the Paddies. They couldn't even find a place for Jordan over Hansen.

                      Next ...
                      Harry Jones ... I know ... who?
                      Apparently some dude who played for Wrstern Province and has an unidentifiable accent, but does some Aussie podcast spoke on Devlin's show
                      https://theplatform.kiwi/podcasts/episode/harry-jones-breaks-down-the-all-blacks-vs-ireland-match-up
                      And reckons the ABs are deliberately lying low and will surprise us all ...

                      And finally (no link) Mat Rogers (who I used to have no time for until I listened to his interview on ABC Conversations with Richard Fidler (although it might have been with Sarah Kernovski ... )) on 'Rugby Central' on Stan looked kind of embarrassed when he said he was picking NZ.

                      None of which suggests a pattern or strong favouritism.

                      I seriously think this game could go any way of the extremes in favour of either team.

                      But gee it could be fun (or depressing). Or both

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                      • boobooB booboo

                        Random reports on random stuff I've heard on the internerd ...

                        Rugby Direct Podcast
                        https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/podcasts/rugby-direct/
                        Smith and Napier did a combined Irish / All Black XV.

                        They essentially Fitzy'ed it in favour of Ireland.

                        A couple of Kiwis got a mention, Smith picked Taylor for example, but generally they picked the Paddies. They couldn't even find a place for Jordan over Hansen.

                        Next ...
                        Harry Jones ... I know ... who?
                        Apparently some dude who played for Wrstern Province and has an unidentifiable accent, but does some Aussie podcast spoke on Devlin's show
                        https://theplatform.kiwi/podcasts/episode/harry-jones-breaks-down-the-all-blacks-vs-ireland-match-up
                        And reckons the ABs are deliberately lying low and will surprise us all ...

                        And finally (no link) Mat Rogers (who I used to have no time for until I listened to his interview on ABC Conversations with Richard Fidler (although it might have been with Sarah Kernovski ... )) on 'Rugby Central' on Stan looked kind of embarrassed when he said he was picking NZ.

                        None of which suggests a pattern or strong favouritism.

                        I seriously think this game could go any way of the extremes in favour of either team.

                        But gee it could be fun (or depressing). Or both

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                        @booboo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                        They couldn't even find a place for Jordan over Hansen

                        I don't think I would either.

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                        • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                          @NTA said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                          @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                          @NTA how do you think the game will go as an independent observer with no skin in the game? ๐Ÿ™‚

                          AB defence is the problem.

                          That's the headline.

                          Thank god for that, I thought it was also our exits, tactical kicking, dumbarsed panic, on-off forwards, mercurial 10 and midfield, headless bench, and inferior coaching.

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                          @nostrildamus said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                          @NTA said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                          @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                          @NTA how do you think the game will go as an independent observer with no skin in the game? ๐Ÿ™‚

                          AB defence is the problem.

                          That's the headline.

                          Thank god for that, I thought it was also our exits, tactical kicking, dumbarsed panic, on-off forwards, mercurial 10 and midfield, headless bench, and inferior coaching.

                          Headline I said.

                          What you've done is the byline and first paragraph.

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                            I don't think or really care whether they think Ireland is better player for player, to me the issue is the Irish are better drilled, more tactical, and more resourceful-the big gap (to overcome) is in strategy, organization, and combinations.

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                            • boobooB booboo

                              In case it hasn't been mentioned ...

                              https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1712034563697045611?t=1XHU4Qh6RvC3NV32ZhaRnQ&s=19

                              6pm CET Thursday = 2am AEST = 4am NZST

                              All is right with the world.

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                              @booboo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                              In case it hasn't been mentioned ...

                              https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1712034563697045611?t=1XHU4Qh6RvC3NV32ZhaRnQ&s=19

                              6pm CET Thursday = 2am AEST = 4am NZST

                              All is right with the world.

                              6pm CET Thursday = 3am AEDT = 5am NZDT

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                              • NTAN NTA

                                @nostrildamus said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                @NTA said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                @NTA how do you think the game will go as an independent observer with no skin in the game? ๐Ÿ™‚

                                AB defence is the problem.

                                That's the headline.

                                Thank god for that, I thought it was also our exits, tactical kicking, dumbarsed panic, on-off forwards, mercurial 10 and midfield, headless bench, and inferior coaching.

                                Headline I said.

                                What you've done is the byline and first paragraph.

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                                @NTA said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                Thank god for that, I thought it was also our exits, tactical kicking, dumbarsed panic, on-off forwards, mercurial 10 and midfield, headless bench, and inferior coaching.

                                Headline I said.

                                What you've done is the byline and first paragraph.

                                Touchรฉ, sir. On the other hand, you've got another 4 plus years (to 2028?) of Eddie Jones coaching to look forward to.

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                                  As another 'neutral' in this one, I think Ireland probably win this game 7 times out of 10. That means the ABs have a pretty decent chance, but if Ireland play as well as they have against Scotland / SA then i back their defensive organisation and discipline, as well as their kicking and attacking game to be too much over 80 mins for the ABs. I also think the Irish are mentally strong enough to cope with going behind early. All that said, only a fool writes the ABs off completely.

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                                      @MiketheSnow said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

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                                      Ryan out, Henderson in

                                      The rest, as you were

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                                      • D Dodge

                                        As another 'neutral' in this one, I think Ireland probably win this game 7 times out of 10. That means the ABs have a pretty decent chance, but if Ireland play as well as they have against Scotland / SA then i back their defensive organisation and discipline, as well as their kicking and attacking game to be too much over 80 mins for the ABs. I also think the Irish are mentally strong enough to cope with going behind early. All that said, only a fool writes the ABs off completely.

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                                        @Dodge or 5 out of 8 ๐Ÿ˜„

                                        I can't give a better ratio than that because Ireland didn't win any games before that ๐Ÿ™‚

                                        If it needs to be out of 10, that means it is 5/10 based on historical results ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                                        • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                          @MiketheSnow said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                          387776107_1079036533478675_2907896860720642898_n.jpg

                                          Ryan out, Henderson in

                                          The rest, as you were

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                                          @MiketheSnow Ryan was on the bench against Scotland. Henderson started.

                                          So Ryan out, McCarthy in is the only change.

                                          Strong, settled team. They are battle hardened, but they have also played a fair bit too. Compare the NZ backrow playing minutes to Ireland's:

                                          44f4f48b-b0b4-48dc-aef4-c368eaf91681-image.png

                                          Image taken from this post on X:

                                          https://x.com/Selfimprove_Man/status/1712014608557338881?s=20

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