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RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland

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    @nostrildamus said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    @NTA said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    @NTA how do you think the game will go as an independent observer with no skin in the game? 🙂

    AB defence is the problem.

    That's the headline.

    Thank god for that, I thought it was also our exits, tactical kicking, dumbarsed panic, on-off forwards, mercurial 10 and midfield, headless bench, and inferior coaching.

    Headline I said.

    What you've done is the byline and first paragraph.

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    @NTA said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    Thank god for that, I thought it was also our exits, tactical kicking, dumbarsed panic, on-off forwards, mercurial 10 and midfield, headless bench, and inferior coaching.

    Headline I said.

    What you've done is the byline and first paragraph.

    Touché, sir. On the other hand, you've got another 4 plus years (to 2028?) of Eddie Jones coaching to look forward to.

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      As another 'neutral' in this one, I think Ireland probably win this game 7 times out of 10. That means the ABs have a pretty decent chance, but if Ireland play as well as they have against Scotland / SA then i back their defensive organisation and discipline, as well as their kicking and attacking game to be too much over 80 mins for the ABs. I also think the Irish are mentally strong enough to cope with going behind early. All that said, only a fool writes the ABs off completely.

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          @MiketheSnow said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

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          Ryan out, Henderson in

          The rest, as you were

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            As another 'neutral' in this one, I think Ireland probably win this game 7 times out of 10. That means the ABs have a pretty decent chance, but if Ireland play as well as they have against Scotland / SA then i back their defensive organisation and discipline, as well as their kicking and attacking game to be too much over 80 mins for the ABs. I also think the Irish are mentally strong enough to cope with going behind early. All that said, only a fool writes the ABs off completely.

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            @Dodge or 5 out of 8 😄

            I can't give a better ratio than that because Ireland didn't win any games before that 🙂

            If it needs to be out of 10, that means it is 5/10 based on historical results 😉

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              @MiketheSnow said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

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              Ryan out, Henderson in

              The rest, as you were

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              @MiketheSnow Ryan was on the bench against Scotland. Henderson started.

              So Ryan out, McCarthy in is the only change.

              Strong, settled team. They are battle hardened, but they have also played a fair bit too. Compare the NZ backrow playing minutes to Ireland's:

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              Image taken from this post on X:

              https://x.com/Selfimprove_Man/status/1712014608557338881?s=20

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                @PecoTrain said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                @canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                Like the motto of my football team says, To Dare is to Do.

                Just because you're mentally prepared for endless disappoint, doesn't mean we all are...

                alt text

                😉

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                @canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                @PecoTrain said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                @canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                Like the motto of my football team says, To Dare is to Do.

                Just because you're mentally prepared for endless disappoint, doesn't mean we all are...

                alt text

                😉

                If I could do that, do you really think I'd be wasting my time on here?

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                  https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/2023/10/11/gordon-darcy-all-blacks-dont-know-how-to-be-underdogs-and-ireland-can-exploit-that/

                  Nugget 1:

                  "From a New Zealand perspective though it’s been all too easy, and I have my doubts about how beneficial it’s been for a group that has struggled consistently for form under Ian Foster to a point where they felt the need to parachute Joe Schmidt into the mix to try and bring direction and stability.

                  I know from experience that Joe instils confidence in players over time, but he hasn’t really had a great deal of that nor is he driving the ship. Ian Foster is still at the helm and from the outside looks keen to reinforce that at every opportunity in the media."

                  Nugget 2:

                  "This match is historic in many ways, Ireland the number one team desperate to break their quarter-final glass ceiling, New Zealand desperate to salvage respect at home to an unforgiving fan base that demands success; the winner more than likely to make a World Cup final.

                  Ireland have grown accustomed to the pressure that has come with being world number. They know they will have to be good, create and execute try scoring opportunities but there is a calmness about their approach.

                  This has been the most vocal I have seen any New Zealand team, they are worried about what can happen possibly a little bit more than they are confident of what they can do. The All Blacks do not know how to be the underdog. Ireland can exploit that discomfort."

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                    To any of the Irish posters on here, I've seen some talk about Irish fans countering the Haka. Will it be the Fields of Athenry or Zombie as the backing song to the Haka at the weekend do you think? 🙂

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                      image.png

                      Look at Gary Ringrose! Ioane with better tackle stats (fewer misses for roughly the same attempted).

                      Papali'i hasn't missed a tackle.

                      Sexton and Mo'unga similar missed tackle stats, but Sexton is making far more tackles than Mo'unga.

                      Gibson-Park misses a fair amount too. Must be his early Kiwi training 😉

                      Brett Igoe has got some great material on his X account. Looks at both Irish and NZ attack and defence strategies. Some great insights.

                      https://x.com/brettruganalyst/status/1711439400456933782?s=20

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                        As another 'neutral' in this one, I think Ireland probably win this game 7 times out of 10. That means the ABs have a pretty decent chance, but if Ireland play as well as they have against Scotland / SA then i back their defensive organisation and discipline, as well as their kicking and attacking game to be too much over 80 mins for the ABs. I also think the Irish are mentally strong enough to cope with going behind early. All that said, only a fool writes the ABs off completely.

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                        @Dodge

                        https://giphy.com/gifs/jim-carrey-dumb-and-dumber-so-youre-telling-me-theres-a-chance-ToMjGpKniGqRNLGBrhu

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                          To any of the Irish posters on here, I've seen some talk about Irish fans countering the Haka. Will it be the Fields of Athenry or Zombie as the backing song to the Haka at the weekend do you think? 🙂

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                          @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                          To any of the Irish posters on here, I've seen some talk about Irish fans countering the Haka. Will it be the Fields of Athenry or Zombie as the backing song to the Haka at the weekend do you think? 🙂

                          I personally dont give a rat's what they do. All the important stuff happens after the first whistle.

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                            Come on Foz you got this. Don't be conservative in the selections.

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                              @Victor-Meldrew said in [RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland]

                              My only doubt about Roigard is if we are leading by two points and need to defend and his lack of experience in a tight game.

                              Yeah, and this is based on the probably wrong assumption that we are actually leading and that Christie is going to pull off one miracle tackle after another that Roigard will somehow be unable to do.

                              Picking Christie is pretty vintage Foster.
                              A player that you know is bang average but conforms to a notion of safety first or some other nonsense.

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                              @Frank said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                              Yeah, and this is based on the probably wrong assumption that we are actually leading and that Christie is going to pull off one miracle tackle after another that Roigard will somehow be unable to do.

                              To be clear we don't know what the scoreline is likely to be when Smith comes off and there's a risk Christie will fuck up as well. On balance, Roigard's the better bet.

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                                If Smith is going well and we are ahead I'd probably leave him on. No need to be robotic regarding subs.

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                                  @Derm-McCrum said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                  Apparently Jimmy O'Brien ate a Kimberley Mikado with his coffee this morning so it looks like he's not in the squad.

                                  None of that makes any sense to me.

                                  Ploise exploin ...

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                                  @booboo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                  @Derm-McCrum said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                  Apparently Jimmy O'Brien ate a Kimberley Mikado with his coffee this morning so it looks like he's not in the squad.

                                  None of that makes any sense to me.

                                  Ploise exploin ...

                                  Eating biccies cos you're not in the squad. But it's ok - he squeezed onto the bench in the 23 geansaí so relax as you were.

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                                    To any of the Irish posters on here, I've seen some talk about Irish fans countering the Haka. Will it be the Fields of Athenry or Zombie as the backing song to the Haka at the weekend do you think? 🙂

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                                    @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                    To any of the Irish posters on here, I've seen some talk about Irish fans countering the Haka. Will it be the Fields of Athenry or Zombie as the backing song to the Haka at the weekend do you think? 🙂

                                    How would we know? Besides it's not countering the haka - it's an Irish singalong that the NZ team dance to along with a beaudacious rapper.

                                    Crowd Zombie feat/Aaron S. and the Unzedders

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                                      @MiketheSnow Ryan was on the bench against Scotland. Henderson started.

                                      So Ryan out, McCarthy in is the only change.

                                      Strong, settled team. They are battle hardened, but they have also played a fair bit too. Compare the NZ backrow playing minutes to Ireland's:

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                                      Image taken from this post on X:

                                      https://x.com/Selfimprove_Man/status/1712014608557338881?s=20

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                                      @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                      @MiketheSnow Ryan was on the bench against Scotland. Henderson started.

                                      So Ryan out, McCarthy in is the only change.

                                      Leinster's Jimmy O'Brien is in the 23 instead of Henshaw or McCloskey - brings more versatility to the backline.

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                                        The RWC 2019 Stumblers vs 2023 Hopers

                                        Cian Healy vs Andrew Porter
                                        Rory Best vs Dan Sheehan
                                        Tadhg Furlong - same
                                        Iain Henderson - same
                                        James Ryan vs Tadgh Beirne
                                        Peter O'Mahony - same
                                        Josh van der Flier - same
                                        CJ Stander vs Caelan Doris

                                        Conor Murray - Jamison Gibson Park
                                        Johnny Sexton - same
                                        Jacob Stockdale vs Mack Hansen
                                        Robbie Henshaw vs Bundee Aki
                                        Garry Ringrose - same
                                        Keith Earls vs James Lowe
                                        Rob Kearney vs Hugo Keenan
                                        Replacements
                                        Niall Scannell vs Ronan Kelleher
                                        Dave Kilcoyne - same
                                        Andrew Porter vs Finlay Bealham
                                        Tadhg Beirne vs Joe McCarthy
                                        Rhys Ruddock vs Jack Conan
                                        Luke McGrath vs Conor Murray
                                        Joey Carbery vs Jack Crowley
                                        Jordan Larmour vs Jimmy O'Brien

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                                          Much amusement that Gregor Paul of the NZ Herald seems to have misunderstood the long-standing joke between Irish and SA fans about Josh van der Flier being from Wicklow in South Africa. :backhand_index_pointing_down_light_skin_tone:

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