RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland
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@Bovidae said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Schmidt must have had an input into the 9. He coached Christie with the Blues, so maybe he swayed Foster
Yes, it would be good to know how much influence the assistant coaches have in the final selections. Ryan has rolled the dice with the young props while Schmidt has gone all conservative.
Schmidt clearly has a lot of faith in him. Christie was on the bench for the first Irish test in '22 which we won 42-19. Foster was out ill for the 1st Test against Ireland in '22 and Schmidt was in charge which is why we won according to Fern logic,
Clearly Schmidt knows what he is doing when playing Ireland and Christie is the clear and obvious choice if we are to win.
Of course, Fern logic could be bollocks....
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Of course, Fern logic could be bollocks....
Now we know which body part you think with!
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@Machpants said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@MN5 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
So hang on, in order to beat the Irish this weekend do the ABs need to drink more or less ?
Yes
Your assuming grog was involved
@allblackfan2 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Machpants said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@MN5 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
So hang on, in order to beat the Irish this weekend do the ABs need to drink more or less ?
YesYour assuming grog was involved
So @Machpants' and @MN5's assumptious grog was involved? Stop it, you two!
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@Yeahtheboys lol I don’t think George has a source. He’s just a wind up merchant.
If Roigard was in that group Fozzie would have used that excuse as to why he got dropped, but he didn’t so it’s therefore B.S.
@Canes4life said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Yeahtheboys lol I don’t think George has a source. He’s just a wind up merchant.
If Roigard was in that group Fozzie would have used that excuse as to why he got dropped, but he didn’t so it’s therefore B.S.
Not necessarily. Now I can’t confirm this story but the way I look at it, if Roigard was out he was never going to start and only MT is in that category.
Even if he was in bench consideration, bench players are rotated so there isn’t a need to say more than is needed. Likewise Sami T
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@allblackfan2 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Machpants said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@MN5 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
So hang on, in order to beat the Irish this weekend do the ABs need to drink more or less ?
YesYour assuming grog was involved
So @Machpants' and @MN5's assumptious grog was involved? Stop it, you two!
@nostrildamus said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@allblackfan2 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Machpants said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@MN5 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
So hang on, in order to beat the Irish this weekend do the ABs need to drink more or less ?
YesYour assuming grog was involved
So @Machpants' and @MN5's assumptious grog was involved? Stop it, you two!
Who the hell calls it ‘grog’ in this day and age ?
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This thread is really confusing. Apparently, there is an Auckland School called Grammer. Apparently Blackadder can spend 2 years out of the ABs with injury, nurse himself back to health, abstain from booze, and get kicked out of the QF for returning late one night: one giant teetotalling, injury replacement foodbill. And to cap it off, he was selected for his dedication and tireless workrate. What a jagged little pill to swallow!
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This thread is really confusing. Apparently, there is an Auckland School called Grammer. Apparently Blackadder can spend 2 years out of the ABs with injury, nurse himself back to health, abstain from booze, and get kicked out of the QF for returning late one night: one giant teetotalling, injury replacement foodbill. And to cap it off, he was selected for his dedication and tireless workrate. What a jagged little pill to swallow!
@nostrildamus said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
This thread is really confusing. Apparently, there is an Auckland School called Grammer. Apparently Blackadder can spend 2 years out of the ABs with injury, nurse himself back to health, abstain from booze, and get kicked out of the QF for returning late one night: one giant teetotalling, injury replacement foodbill. And to cap it off, he was selected for his dedication and tireless workrate. What a jagged little pill to swallow!
I guess he just didn’t fit in with the rest of the alcoholics in the squad. They frowned when he said no to bourbon on his cornflakes each morning
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@nostrildamus said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@allblackfan2 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Machpants said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@MN5 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
So hang on, in order to beat the Irish this weekend do the ABs need to drink more or less ?
YesYour assuming grog was involved
So @Machpants' and @MN5's assumptious grog was involved? Stop it, you two!
Who the hell calls it ‘grog’ in this day and age ?
@MN5 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Who the hell calls it ‘grog’ in this day and age ?
I don't know anyone who calls it that, so it must be fun sober people.
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Obviously the drinking part is all speculation, these guys coulda been to a movie, dinner, top golf etc and just been late to breach the rules.
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Obviously the drinking part is all speculation, these guys coulda been to a movie, dinner, top golf etc and just been late to breach the rules.
@taniwharugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Obviously the drinking part is all speculation, these guys coulda been to a movie, dinner, top golf etc and just been late to breach the rules.
Think you’re being generous mate. Surely if you go for dinner and you’re going to be 30mins late cos you can’t get an Uber, you flick a quick text to Foz and you’re still in the selection fold?
Either they were really late, out of contact, or on the booze I reckon
Or, maybe Foz was always going to play LF for this game and the curfew is a ruse. Maybe Foz even had LF get skinned by that Uruguayan just to mess with the Irish heads, the same way he’s been playing Roigard lately.
So much powder
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@allblackfan2 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Machpants said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@MN5 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
So hang on, in order to beat the Irish this weekend do the ABs need to drink more or less ?
YesYour assuming grog was involved
So @Machpants' and @MN5's assumptious grog was involved? Stop it, you two!
@nostrildamus said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@allblackfan2 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Machpants said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@MN5 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
So hang on, in order to beat the Irish this weekend do the ABs need to drink more or less ?
YesYour assuming grog was involved
So @Machpants' and @MN5's assumptious grog was involved? Stop it, you two!
No Hawkes players, right? So just booze
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@taniwharugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Obviously the drinking part is all speculation, these guys coulda been to a movie, dinner, top golf etc and just been late to breach the rules.
Think you’re being generous mate. Surely if you go for dinner and you’re going to be 30mins late cos you can’t get an Uber, you flick a quick text to Foz and you’re still in the selection fold?
Either they were really late, out of contact, or on the booze I reckon
Or, maybe Foz was always going to play LF for this game and the curfew is a ruse. Maybe Foz even had LF get skinned by that Uruguayan just to mess with the Irish heads, the same way he’s been playing Roigard lately.
So much powder
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@nostrildamus said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@allblackfan2 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Machpants said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@MN5 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
So hang on, in order to beat the Irish this weekend do the ABs need to drink more or less ?
YesYour assuming grog was involved
So @Machpants' and @MN5's assumptious grog was involved? Stop it, you two!
No Hawkes players, right? So just booze
@Machpants said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@nostrildamus said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@allblackfan2 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Machpants said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@MN5 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
So hang on, in order to beat the Irish this weekend do the ABs need to drink more or less ?
YesYour assuming grog was involved
So @Machpants' and @MN5's assumptious grog was involved? Stop it, you two!
No Hawkes players, right? So just booze
We have to win the cup before BBBR breaks it.
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@taniwharugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Obviously the drinking part is all speculation, these guys coulda been to a movie, dinner, top golf etc and just been late to breach the rules.
Think you’re being generous mate. Surely if you go for dinner and you’re going to be 30mins late cos you can’t get an Uber, you flick a quick text to Foz and you’re still in the selection fold?
Either they were really late, out of contact, or on the booze I reckon
Or, maybe Foz was always going to play LF for this game and the curfew is a ruse. Maybe Foz even had LF get skinned by that Uruguayan just to mess with the Irish heads, the same way he’s been playing Roigard lately.
So much powder
@voodoo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Think you’re being generous mate. Surely if you go for dinner and you’re going to be 30mins late cos you can’t get an Uber, you flick a quick text to Foz and you’re still in the selection fold?
I believe there was a text between Mark and Foz
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@Dan54 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@DaGrubster said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Fair enough mate, the one thing ST brings is ability to get over the gainline and dominant tackles.
Ireland have a well oiled system that is functioning very well.
If you look at the Scotland game they had a tone of ball and made a lot of metres which didn’t result in points. This is mainly to Scotland not being able to stress the Irish system enough to really hurt it. They were very good at being able to repel it.
My point is we need to be able to get over the gainline in order to be able to put pressure on Ireland defence and Sami T is the best hooker at doing that and he will certainly be more effective at that than Dane Coles.
Yep the thing with ST, I don't really recall him getting over the gainline very much this year, he certainly (even for Chiefs) probably hasn't crossed gainline as many times as he has missed lineout targets this year? Not sure if it's second year syndrome or whatever, or teams are more aware of him, just hasn't carried like last year etc.
Yeah I don't think ST has been as effective this year, Super Rugby included. Hopefully in time he will recapture last year's form, but I do wonder if last year was a blip where he seemed to come out of nowhere. I don't recall many people, even Chief's supporters, talking him up prior to selection. Very happy to be proven wrong of course.
@Crazy-Horse I rated him big time, even the year before, but he needed to sort out his throwing, which he did brilliantly last year and got selected, only to be ignored.
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Re ST....is there anyone that has lifted their game under fozzie?....is there anyone that plays better for the AB's than in super anymore? feel like at most there are a few that play as well but several that seem to go down hill in the black jersey
@Kiwiwomble said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Re ST....is there anyone that has lifted their game under fozzie?....is there anyone that plays better for the AB's than in super anymore? feel like at most there are a few that play as well but several that seem to go down hill in the black jersey
This year - Frizzel.
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forgive my studied ignorance but is it allowable to send the ABs out on the field but swap Rieko and Leicester? That would mess with Irish plans!
@nostrildamus said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
forgive my studied ignorance but is it allowable to send the ABs out on the field but swap Rieko and Leicester? That would mess with Irish plans!
Hah fuck imagine the howls from those that said Rieko isn't a centres arsehole because he has no vision and doesn't/can't pass, when they're confronted with someone who just passes to random places on the field.
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@KiwiMurph said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Frank said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Mark Telea is a tool for breaking curfew.
As were Israel Dagg and Cory Jane days before 2011 RWC Quarterfinal. The difference was they weren't dropped.
Except they never actually broke the rules, it just wasn't a good look. There was no policy on drinking, not was there a curfew in effect at that time. In addition the leadership group make these calls, not Foster, unless he has changed things
@Machpants said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
In addition the leadership group make these calls, not Foster
I call bullshit. Why do you say this? Because that's what they did over a decade ago or you actually know somehow?
How retarded would a coach have to be to let the "senior leadership" to select the team for the biggest game of his career.
Oh yeah, maybe you're right.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Optimism levels greatly reduced due to inclusion of Ginga.
TBH, as stupid was that is, it won't be with winning or losing of the game. It'll be foster sticking with pretty much the same tactics, esp on defence, for years. It'll be not learning the 'learnings' 🤮. It'll be lack of leadership when it gets tight. It'll be the lack of discipline when our stupid short kicking game puts us under relentless pressure. It'll be the lack of nous when it comes to pushing and working the ref.
@Machpants said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
TBH, as stupid was that is, it won't be with winning or losing of the game
On a roll fella, bull puckey again! Smith goes down before 50 minutes and we're absolutely rotisseried. We'd at least have a chance if Roigard was there to take over.
