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RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland

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  • mariner4lifeM Online
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    Just watched that game winning penalty again

    Not only is the breakdown work excellent, but holy shit Whitelock puts in a huge shot to stop old mate dead as well.

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    • NTAN NTA

      AB pressure didn't force Doris to drop the ball cold.
      ABs pressure didn't stop Ireland contesting the high ball on several occasions.
      AB pressure wasn't responsible for all the Ireland lineout issues.

      AB pressure and execution won the game, but the pressure Ireland put on themselves clearly was a factor.

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      @NTA said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

      AB pressure didn't force Doris to drop the ball cold.
      ABs pressure didn't stop Ireland contesting the high ball on several occasions.
      AB pressure wasn't responsible for all the Ireland lineout issues.

      AB pressure and execution won the game, but the pressure Ireland put on themselves clearly was a factor.

      cute.

      AB pressure didn't force Aus to shit the bed and go out in the pool play.
      AB pressure didn't make EJ to meet JRU officials online.

      and I guess you will tell us about the neck rolls to JB, RI, the sealing of ruck ball, and the missed penalty for Savea's steal attempt during the last 40 phases.

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      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

        Just watched that game winning penalty again

        Not only is the breakdown work excellent, but holy shit Whitelock puts in a huge shot to stop old mate dead as well.

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        @mariner4life said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

        Just watched that game winning penalty again

        Not only is the breakdown work excellent, but holy shit Whitelock puts in a huge shot to stop old mate dead as well.

        Fucking phenomenal defence across the board. They were watching that 2-out-the-back attacking play over and over, just waiting to pounce.

        That, plus J Barrett holding up a try, were massive

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          @NTA said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

          AB pressure didn't force Doris to drop the ball cold.
          ABs pressure didn't stop Ireland contesting the high ball on several occasions.
          AB pressure wasn't responsible for all the Ireland lineout issues.

          AB pressure and execution won the game, but the pressure Ireland put on themselves clearly was a factor.

          cute.

          AB pressure didn't force Aus to shit the bed and go out in the pool play.
          AB pressure didn't make EJ to meet JRU officials online.

          and I guess you will tell us about the neck rolls to JB, RI, the sealing of ruck ball, and the missed penalty for Savea's steal attempt during the last 40 phases.

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          @Wairau said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

          @NTA said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

          AB pressure didn't force Doris to drop the ball cold.
          ABs pressure didn't stop Ireland contesting the high ball on several occasions.
          AB pressure wasn't responsible for all the Ireland lineout issues.

          AB pressure and execution won the game, but the pressure Ireland put on themselves clearly was a factor.

          cute.

          AB pressure didn't force Aus to shit the bed and go out in the pool play.
          AB pressure didn't make EJ to meet JRU officials online.

          Lol what are you even on about? 🤣

          Go drink some more, broseph.

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            Did the ABs even make a handling error? 74 minutes in and besides Smith's yellow card, I'm struggling to remember any.

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                Did the ABs even make a handling error? 74 minutes in and besides Smith's yellow card, I'm struggling to remember any.

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                @NTA

                Two - Smith & LF

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                  All 6 tries were scored by New Zealanders!

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                    Nick, certainly the occasion was intense and the fact that this version of the ABs did not provide opportunity after opportunity (which was a feature of the last two tests we played against them in 2022) would've been a big factor in creating pressure.

                    A certain pattern had emerged with the ABs that went something like "if you have enough ball against the ABs they will infringe". We get pinned in our half and the scores will come. Quality coaches would plan for that because that had been the pattern. Today was quite different in how we attacked the collisions and we were the team putting on the points.

                    Ireland didn't help themselves with some poor decisions and their LO execution was as poor as I've seen for some time. But I come back to the occasion point. The stakes, the hoodoo, the QF monkey, the no.1 team - and then to get a team that has put some old habits to the side and had to play out of their skins (against the some quite frankly bizarre ref calls) just to stay slightly ahead for the whole match.

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                      #2589

                      4 mins to go, on attack and we kick the ball away.
                      WTF!

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                      • DuluthD Duluth

                        @NTA

                        Two - Smith & LF

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                        @Duluth said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                        @NTA

                        Two - Smith & LF

                        An astonishing stat in a match like that.

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                          Nick, certainly the occasion was intense and the fact that this version of the ABs did not provide opportunity after opportunity (which was a feature of the last two tests we played against them in 2022) would've been a big factor in creating pressure.

                          A certain pattern had emerged with the ABs that went something like "if you have enough ball against the ABs they will infringe". We get pinned in our half and the scores will come. Quality coaches would plan for that because that had been the pattern. Today was quite different in how we attacked the collisions and we were the team putting on the points.

                          Ireland didn't help themselves with some poor decisions and their LO execution was as poor as I've seen for some time. But I come back to the occasion point. The stakes, the hoodoo, the QF monkey, the no.1 team - and then to get a team that has put some old habits to the side and had to play out of their skins (against the some quite frankly bizarre ref calls) just to stay slightly ahead for the whole match.

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                          @ACT-Crusader said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                          Today was quite different in how we attacked the collisions and we were the team putting on the points.

                          It was noticeable on defence that there was always a forward hanging out in the 12/13 channel in order to help snuff out the threat of Aki

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                            AB pressure didn't force Doris to drop the ball cold.
                            ABs pressure didn't stop Ireland contesting the high ball on several occasions.
                            AB pressure wasn't responsible for all the Ireland lineout issues.

                            AB pressure and execution won the game, but the pressure Ireland put on themselves clearly was a factor.

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                            @NTA said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                            AB pressure didn't force Doris to drop the ball cold.
                            ABs pressure didn't stop Ireland contesting the high ball on several occasions.
                            AB pressure wasn't responsible for all the Ireland lineout issues.

                            AB pressure and execution won the game, but the pressure Ireland put on themselves clearly was a factor.

                            I’m going to bite.

                            I think both teams played pretty close to their potential. Ireland had similar mistakes they did vs SA (lineout etc). They were poor attacking wise at the end as they were knackered, we had the ball from about 72-76 and our offense was equally uninspiring.

                            Through the game I thot Ireland ability to make 50-60m was far far too easy. That’s their game and it still got them 24 points. if you offered their fans 24 points pre match 100% would have taken it and been smug about the pending victory. I’d prob not be different if you offered me 23.

                            Game was won / lost on the 1%ers which happen every match. You don’t notice a dropped ball when you win by 25.

                            Today was our day. We were never once behind and despite the stupidest start ever, we settled and actually played to a plan. As did Ireland. But Irelands plan revolved around them thinking they were better than us (corner kicks instead of penalties, genuine disbelief at not winning penalties etc). And ours revolved around winning a rugby game against Ireland.

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                              Smith had a shocker start.
                              Think Roigard deserves a bit of leeway.

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                                @NTA said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                AB pressure didn't force Doris to drop the ball cold.
                                ABs pressure didn't stop Ireland contesting the high ball on several occasions.
                                AB pressure wasn't responsible for all the Ireland lineout issues.

                                AB pressure and execution won the game, but the pressure Ireland put on themselves clearly was a factor.

                                I’m going to bite.

                                I think both teams played pretty close to their potential. Ireland had similar mistakes they did vs SA (lineout etc). They were poor attacking wise at the end as they were knackered, we had the ball from about 72-76 and our offense was equally uninspiring.

                                Through the game I thot Ireland ability to make 50-60m was far far too easy. That’s their game and it still got them 24 points. if you offered their fans 24 points pre match 100% would have taken it and been smug about the pending victory. I’d prob not be different if you offered me 23.

                                Game was won / lost on the 1%ers which happen every match. You don’t notice a dropped ball when you win by 25.

                                Today was our day. We were never once behind and despite the stupidest start ever, we settled and actually played to a plan. As did Ireland. But Irelands plan revolved around them thinking they were better than us (corner kicks instead of penalties, genuine disbelief at not winning penalties etc). And ours revolved around winning a rugby game against Ireland.

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                                @MajorRage said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                But Irelands plan revolved around them thinking they were better than us (corner kicks instead of penalties, genuine disbelief at not winning penalties etc). And ours revolved around winning a rugby game against Ireland.

                                Nailed it.

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                                  Did the ABs even make a handling error? 74 minutes in and besides Smith's yellow card, I'm struggling to remember any.

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                                  @NTA What minute was Smith's yellow card?

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                                    Sexton's words to Ioane shown there at about 17 seconds in. Who wants to lip read?

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                                      @NTA What minute was Smith's yellow card?

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                                      @SBW1 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                      @NTA What minute was Smith's yellow card?

                                      Dunno. First half some time?

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                                        Yes, the great challenge for us will be getting up for a semi against the Argies after we emptied the tank for this one.

                                        We were in a similar position in 2019 and got blown away.

                                        The Argies will look to spoil everything next week and will be very dissapointEd with themselves if an actual game of rugby breaks out.

                                        They will be very tough and I think that will be close.

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                                        @DaGrubster said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                        Yes, the great challenge for us will be getting up for a semi against the Argies after we emptied the tank for this one.

                                        We were in a similar position in 2019 and got blown away.

                                        Keep to the same side as much as possible - don't do any clever shit like basing the forwards around a mythical line-out weakness and picking a lock at 6.

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                                          That period after Taylor's YC when we were forced to bring Coles on for the scrum, you couldn't script it.

                                          We win the scrum penalty, with 7 in the scrum.
                                          Jordie misses the penalty kick.
                                          Ireland kick the drop out.
                                          We attack and Beaudie kicks the garry owen.
                                          Jordie chases the kick and Ireland give away a dumb penalty
                                          Jordie kicks the penalty goal.
                                          Then after the restart there are a few phases and Murray chip kicks it to our corner, put Beaudie under pressure and we are under immense pressure and concede a penalty.
                                          Ireland kick to the corner and maul it up
                                          JORDIE BARRETT WITH A TRY SAVER FOR THE AGES

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