RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland
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Did the ABs even make a handling error? 74 minutes in and besides Smith's yellow card, I'm struggling to remember any.
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All 6 tries were scored by New Zealanders!
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Nick, certainly the occasion was intense and the fact that this version of the ABs did not provide opportunity after opportunity (which was a feature of the last two tests we played against them in 2022) would've been a big factor in creating pressure.
A certain pattern had emerged with the ABs that went something like "if you have enough ball against the ABs they will infringe". We get pinned in our half and the scores will come. Quality coaches would plan for that because that had been the pattern. Today was quite different in how we attacked the collisions and we were the team putting on the points.
Ireland didn't help themselves with some poor decisions and their LO execution was as poor as I've seen for some time. But I come back to the occasion point. The stakes, the hoodoo, the QF monkey, the no.1 team - and then to get a team that has put some old habits to the side and had to play out of their skins (against the some quite frankly bizarre ref calls) just to stay slightly ahead for the whole match.
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4 mins to go, on attack and we kick the ball away.
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@Duluth said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Two - Smith & LF
An astonishing stat in a match like that.
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Nick, certainly the occasion was intense and the fact that this version of the ABs did not provide opportunity after opportunity (which was a feature of the last two tests we played against them in 2022) would've been a big factor in creating pressure.
A certain pattern had emerged with the ABs that went something like "if you have enough ball against the ABs they will infringe". We get pinned in our half and the scores will come. Quality coaches would plan for that because that had been the pattern. Today was quite different in how we attacked the collisions and we were the team putting on the points.
Ireland didn't help themselves with some poor decisions and their LO execution was as poor as I've seen for some time. But I come back to the occasion point. The stakes, the hoodoo, the QF monkey, the no.1 team - and then to get a team that has put some old habits to the side and had to play out of their skins (against the some quite frankly bizarre ref calls) just to stay slightly ahead for the whole match.
@ACT-Crusader said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Today was quite different in how we attacked the collisions and we were the team putting on the points.
It was noticeable on defence that there was always a forward hanging out in the 12/13 channel in order to help snuff out the threat of Aki
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AB pressure didn't force Doris to drop the ball cold.
ABs pressure didn't stop Ireland contesting the high ball on several occasions.
AB pressure wasn't responsible for all the Ireland lineout issues.AB pressure and execution won the game, but the pressure Ireland put on themselves clearly was a factor.
@NTA said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
AB pressure didn't force Doris to drop the ball cold.
ABs pressure didn't stop Ireland contesting the high ball on several occasions.
AB pressure wasn't responsible for all the Ireland lineout issues.AB pressure and execution won the game, but the pressure Ireland put on themselves clearly was a factor.
I’m going to bite.
I think both teams played pretty close to their potential. Ireland had similar mistakes they did vs SA (lineout etc). They were poor attacking wise at the end as they were knackered, we had the ball from about 72-76 and our offense was equally uninspiring.
Through the game I thot Ireland ability to make 50-60m was far far too easy. That’s their game and it still got them 24 points. if you offered their fans 24 points pre match 100% would have taken it and been smug about the pending victory. I’d prob not be different if you offered me 23.
Game was won / lost on the 1%ers which happen every match. You don’t notice a dropped ball when you win by 25.
Today was our day. We were never once behind and despite the stupidest start ever, we settled and actually played to a plan. As did Ireland. But Irelands plan revolved around them thinking they were better than us (corner kicks instead of penalties, genuine disbelief at not winning penalties etc). And ours revolved around winning a rugby game against Ireland.
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Smith had a shocker start.
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@NTA said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
AB pressure didn't force Doris to drop the ball cold.
ABs pressure didn't stop Ireland contesting the high ball on several occasions.
AB pressure wasn't responsible for all the Ireland lineout issues.AB pressure and execution won the game, but the pressure Ireland put on themselves clearly was a factor.
I’m going to bite.
I think both teams played pretty close to their potential. Ireland had similar mistakes they did vs SA (lineout etc). They were poor attacking wise at the end as they were knackered, we had the ball from about 72-76 and our offense was equally uninspiring.
Through the game I thot Ireland ability to make 50-60m was far far too easy. That’s their game and it still got them 24 points. if you offered their fans 24 points pre match 100% would have taken it and been smug about the pending victory. I’d prob not be different if you offered me 23.
Game was won / lost on the 1%ers which happen every match. You don’t notice a dropped ball when you win by 25.
Today was our day. We were never once behind and despite the stupidest start ever, we settled and actually played to a plan. As did Ireland. But Irelands plan revolved around them thinking they were better than us (corner kicks instead of penalties, genuine disbelief at not winning penalties etc). And ours revolved around winning a rugby game against Ireland.
@MajorRage said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
But Irelands plan revolved around them thinking they were better than us (corner kicks instead of penalties, genuine disbelief at not winning penalties etc). And ours revolved around winning a rugby game against Ireland.
Nailed it.
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Did the ABs even make a handling error? 74 minutes in and besides Smith's yellow card, I'm struggling to remember any.
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Yes, the great challenge for us will be getting up for a semi against the Argies after we emptied the tank for this one.
We were in a similar position in 2019 and got blown away.
The Argies will look to spoil everything next week and will be very dissapointEd with themselves if an actual game of rugby breaks out.
They will be very tough and I think that will be close.
@DaGrubster said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Yes, the great challenge for us will be getting up for a semi against the Argies after we emptied the tank for this one.
We were in a similar position in 2019 and got blown away.
Keep to the same side as much as possible - don't do any clever shit like basing the forwards around a mythical line-out weakness and picking a lock at 6.
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That period after Taylor's YC when we were forced to bring Coles on for the scrum, you couldn't script it.
We win the scrum penalty, with 7 in the scrum.
Jordie misses the penalty kick.
Ireland kick the drop out.
We attack and Beaudie kicks the garry owen.
Jordie chases the kick and Ireland give away a dumb penalty
Jordie kicks the penalty goal.
Then after the restart there are a few phases and Murray chip kicks it to our corner, put Beaudie under pressure and we are under immense pressure and concede a penalty.
Ireland kick to the corner and maul it up
JORDIE BARRETT WITH A TRY SAVER FOR THE AGES -
Just watched that game winning penalty again
Not only is the breakdown work excellent, but holy shit Whitelock puts in a huge shot to stop old mate dead as well.
@mariner4life said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Just watched that game winning penalty again
Not only is the breakdown work excellent, but holy shit Whitelock puts in a huge shot to stop old mate dead as well.
Watched it again: retallick with the assist.
If you could pick the least optimum pair of blokes to run at, they're top of the list.
It was weird because up the that point, they'd been shifting wide, dropping it into the boot, and searching for space out wide.
They did that all game and never really set up forward pods to punch it in close. The ABs just spread out and kept tackling.
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Unsure if this image has been posted already, but that meant something...
@taniwharugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Unsure if this image has been posted already, but that meant something...
Unlike.
Reminds me of a team too pleased with themselves and about to crash hard the following week.
Reminds me of Ireland 2015 actually.
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Just watched that game winning penalty again
Not only is the breakdown work excellent, but holy shit Whitelock puts in a huge shot to stop old mate dead as well.
@mariner4life said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Just watched that game winning penalty again
Not only is the breakdown work excellent, but holy shit Whitelock puts in a huge shot to stop old mate dead as well.
I watched it (third or fourth time) and tracked Whitelock for that last few minutes. Made some ground the old boy from across the park
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What can I say except well done New Zealand.
My heart goes out to our wonderful Ireland team but they didn’t have enough against a simply superlative NZ team.
Congrats guys.
@Derm-McCrum said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
What can I say except well done New Zealand.
My heart goes out to our wonderful Ireland team but they didn’t have enough against a simply superlative NZ team.
Congrats guys.
Thanks for that as you must feel really gutted. Your team has produced some superlative rugby in the last few years - you can be proud of them.
One of my memories of this game will be the AB's walking around the ground and the Irish fans standing to applaud them. Class indeed.
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I have to start by saying that the Irish supporters on here are very gracious. I'm sorry but I truly dislike the Irish team, especially Sexton and POM. I've been keeping receipts since last year and I'm enjoying today.
I think Sparky is onto something with the 'they weren't at 90% of what they can produce, that is the fact of today' comment from Kearney. Go fuck yourself mate. That AB team did very fucking well to identify how to slow you assholes down.
Ireland have been the best team in the world over the last couple of years, but perhaps you've also started to believe your own press, WCs are fluffybunnies like that.
