RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland
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AB pressure didn't force Doris to drop the ball cold.
ABs pressure didn't stop Ireland contesting the high ball on several occasions.
AB pressure wasn't responsible for all the Ireland lineout issues.AB pressure and execution won the game, but the pressure Ireland put on themselves clearly was a factor.
@NTA said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
AB pressure didn't force Doris to drop the ball cold.
ABs pressure didn't stop Ireland contesting the high ball on several occasions.
AB pressure wasn't responsible for all the Ireland lineout issues.Yes it was.
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@frugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@gt12 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
A bit of whining in that article from the Times (here).
For starters, I think the angle people use to say it was shoulder to the head is quite clearly the chest anyway, but even then, the TMO/Bunker gets tons of angles anyway, they'd have checked everything with scrutiny, and I imagine with the reverse/side angle, you'd probably quite clearly see it is an optical illusion... did his shoulder nudge the chin? Probably, but only after bumping up off the chest.
The biggest miss from the TMO was a neck roll on Rieko on about the 32nd phase of that last movement.
I thought I also saw a swinging arm connect with Savea's head. It was right before we kicked the 50 22 so advantage was played. I don't think anyone has mentioned it on here yet. There were no replays of it (surprise surprise). Anyone else see it?
@Crazy-Horse said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@frugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@gt12 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
A bit of whining in that article from the Times (here).
For starters, I think the angle people use to say it was shoulder to the head is quite clearly the chest anyway, but even then, the TMO/Bunker gets tons of angles anyway, they'd have checked everything with scrutiny, and I imagine with the reverse/side angle, you'd probably quite clearly see it is an optical illusion... did his shoulder nudge the chin? Probably, but only after bumping up off the chest.
The biggest miss from the TMO was a neck roll on Rieko on about the 32nd phase of that last movement.
I thought I also saw a swinging arm connect with Savea's head. It was right before we kicked the 50 22 so advantage was played. I don't think anyone has mentioned it on here yet. There were no replays of it (surprise surprise). Anyone else see it?
yes, Barnes said clearly advantage was played..however if it was contact to the head, then I would have liked to have seen the replay
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@booboo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@taniwharugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
One of the nz press
James McOnie apparently
Yes, definitely James, who obviously knows Sam well.
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It took 84 minutes (41 in the 1st and 43 in the 2nd) to beat this Irish team. They didn't do what they had done for the past 17 matches. They made mistakes. Their set piece was under massive pressure. They fluffed their maul attack with less than 10 to go. There were players with hands on hips with 2 minutes still on the clock. Even with space they couldn't take advantage of 1-on-1 contests.
So I don't disagree with Kearney in what is an Irish analysis of the match for an Irish audience (BTW who was the Aussie at the end of that coverage?). He was clearly disappointed. Sounded very familiar to the post 2007 QF analysis, where we didn't play even remotely to what we had been playing prior to the RWC.
@ACT-Crusader said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
It took 84 minutes (41 in the 1st and 43 in the 2nd) to beat this Irish team. They didn't do what they had done for the past 17 matches. They made mistakes. Their set piece was under massive pressure. They fluffed their maul attack with less than 10 to go. There were players with hands on hips with 2 minutes still on the clock. Even with space they couldn't take advantage of 1-on-1 contests.
So I don't disagree with Kearney in what is an Irish analysis of the match for an Irish audience (BTW who was the Aussie at the end of that coverage?). He was clearly disappointed. Sounded very familiar to the post 2007 QF analysis, where we didn't play even remotely to what we had been playing prior to the RWC.
Matt Williams think his name is , Aussie coach who worked over there for years , now in their media
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I have to start by saying that the Irish supporters on here are very gracious. I'm sorry but I truly dislike the Irish team, especially Sexton and POM. I've been keeping receipts since last year and I'm enjoying today.
I think Sparky is onto something with the 'they weren't at 90% of what they can produce, that is the fact of today' comment from Kearney. Go fuck yourself mate. That AB team did very fucking well to identify how to slow you assholes down.
Ireland have been the best team in the world over the last couple of years, but perhaps you've also started to believe your own press, WCs are fluffybunnies like that.
@gt12 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
I have to start by saying that the Irish supporters on here are very gracious. I'm sorry but I truly dislike the Irish team, especially Sexton and POM. I've been keeping receipts since last year and I'm enjoying today.
I think Sparky is onto something with the 'they weren't at 90% of what they can produce, that is the fact of today' comment from Kearney. Go fuck yourself mate. That AB team did very fucking well to identify how to slow you assholes down.
Ireland have been the best team in the world over the last couple of years, but perhaps you've also started to believe your own press, WCs are fluffybunnies like that.
Great post
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@NTA said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
https://twitter.com/RosscoHamilton/status/1713306456244572544
As I pointed out. 6 and a half minutes without a whistle at the end there.
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Weird to hear certain Irish pundits say that their team deserved to go further in the competition, you don’t deserve to win a Rugby match you have to earn it.
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@booboo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@SBW1 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@NTA What minute was Smith's yellow card?
About 35.
He had 5mins either side of the break
Cunning plan to keep Christie on the bench
@Machpants said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@booboo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@SBW1 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@NTA What minute was Smith's yellow card?
About 35.
He had 5mins either side of the break
Cunning plan to keep Christie on the bench
Pin a tail on it and call it a weasel.
Worked out brilliantly huh?
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@gt12 obviously it was some smart arse comment from RI, given how pissed off Sexton was, I wonder if he reprimanded POM for his shit richie comments?
There will always be those who have something smart/funny to say that will piss some off, always passed as banter/sledging...
@taniwharugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@gt12 obviously it was some smart arse comment from RI, given how pissed off Sexton was, I wonder if he reprimanded POM for his shit richie comments?
There will always be those who have something smart/funny to say that will piss some off, always passed as banter/sledging...
Probably called Sexton a shit version of O'Gara.
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People are saying Ireland did not play to their potential, I tend to think the ABs had a lot more to do with it.
First we dominated the scoreboard which caused the Irish to chase the score, no way any northern hemisphere side turns down so many shots at goal.
We denied the Irish one of their biggest weapons and that is ruck turnover or penalties at the ruck. In fact it was the opposite with us getting many more jackels and penalties.
We denied the Irish set piece platforms as they did not have a single scrum feed and we stole a few lineouts. Our ball control was next level.
Wayne Barnes actually helped us more than we thought even though he missed a lot. The fact the Irish received 5 penalties early for ruck and scrum infringements set the tone that they could not flop on the ruck or try anything at scrum time.
We also handled their dummy runners pretty well with only a few clear breaks. JB, RI are very good defensively and they had a forward always tackling Aki.
Now we also put ourselves under a lot of pressure by stupid clearing kicks and poor exits. This has to improve. The Irish also made so many easy metres down our left hand side, it was scary how they got over the gain line.
I truly believe the coaches and players really executed their plan to perfection and perhaps Fozzie needs more credit but I can’t help but think Schmidt was the brains behind the plan.
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It took 84 minutes (41 in the 1st and 43 in the 2nd) to beat this Irish team. They didn't do what they had done for the past 17 matches. They made mistakes. Their set piece was under massive pressure. They fluffed their maul attack with less than 10 to go. There were players with hands on hips with 2 minutes still on the clock. Even with space they couldn't take advantage of 1-on-1 contests.
So I don't disagree with Kearney in what is an Irish analysis of the match for an Irish audience (BTW who was the Aussie at the end of that coverage?). He was clearly disappointed. Sounded very familiar to the post 2007 QF analysis, where we didn't play even remotely to what we had been playing prior to the RWC.
@ACT-Crusader said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
It took 84 minutes (41 in the 1st and 43 in the 2nd) to beat this Irish team. They didn't do what they had done for the past 17 matches. They made mistakes. Their set piece was under massive pressure. They fluffed their maul attack with less than 10 to go. There were players with hands on hips with 2 minutes still on the clock. Even with space they couldn't take advantage of 1-on-1 contests.
This isn’t true. They have always had loads of issues, they just simply don’t get analysed as they won. No team is perfect.
If we’d had a defensive lapse and they scored in the last minute to win, nobody would be talking about these at all.
Just like in the SA match. Every single thing you talk about was in the SA match.
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@Bovidae I think it was Ioane
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A couple of things.
That last phase of play started with Sexton's 22 drop out bang on 76mins. It finished at 82:18. 6mins and 18 seconds later.
NZ gave Ireland the ball (what the fuck was that kick Nuggie?) at 77 mins.
For the leaguies out there, the All Blacks withstood the equivalent of seven consecutive "6 agains", in 5 and a half minutes.
@booboo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
A couple of things.
That last phase of play started with Sexton's 22 drop out bang on 76mins. It finished at 82:18. 6mins and 18 seconds later.
NZ gave Ireland the ball (what the fuck was that kick Nuggie?) at 77 mins.
For the leaguies out there, the All Blacks withstood the equivalent of seven consecutive "6 agains", in 5 and a half minutes.
Sorry, noticed error in bold
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@canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Rapido said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@taniwharugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Unsure if this image has been posted already, but that meant something...
Unlike.
Reminds me of a team too pleased with themselves and about to crash hard the following week.
Reminds me of Ireland 2015 actually.
It's up to all of us to keep bagging them. Dare them to win to spite us!
Tbh, even the good/great AB teams struggled the following week after a standout knock-out match. Difference is, this is a shit AB team.
@Rapido said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Rapido said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@taniwharugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Unsure if this image has been posted already, but that meant something...
Unlike.
Reminds me of a team too pleased with themselves and about to crash hard the following week.
Reminds me of Ireland 2015 actually.
It's up to all of us to keep bagging them. Dare them to win to spite us!
Tbh, even the good/great AB teams struggled the following week after a standout knock-out match. Difference is, this is a shit AB team.
They were so shit today
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Right, so....
I'm not going to claim any sort of moral high ground, because this is all spite....
Fuck, we didn't deserve to win, but we did.
And I'm perversely more happy that Ireland didn't win, rather than that the All Blacks did win.
J Sexton was a fucking blight on the game, and now he's gone.
He was a fluffybunny. In the face/ear of referees, "simulation", etc. Just... fuck off. Begone. The sport is better off without you.
And... what the actual fuck? We won?
And... I've been drinking for 14 hours... I don't even know if I'm coherent... but fucking... there it is. Fuck Sexton. And it's awesomely appropriate that the Foster era will be ended by a loss to Argentina. -
Oh - and what the actual FUCK was with kicking the ball away with 4 minutes to go?
Was it an 'accord' to make the game more interesting? Or an assassination attempt on me - to give me a heart attack?
Just... what the actual fuck? Stop it. You fucking dicks. -
So, ah, maybe we should have started Cane in 2019 eh?
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@ACT-Crusader said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
It took 84 minutes (41 in the 1st and 43 in the 2nd) to beat this Irish team. They didn't do what they had done for the past 17 matches. They made mistakes. Their set piece was under massive pressure. They fluffed their maul attack with less than 10 to go. There were players with hands on hips with 2 minutes still on the clock. Even with space they couldn't take advantage of 1-on-1 contests.
So I don't disagree with Kearney in what is an Irish analysis of the match for an Irish audience (BTW who was the Aussie at the end of that coverage?). He was clearly disappointed. Sounded very familiar to the post 2007 QF analysis, where we didn't play even remotely to what we had been playing prior to the RWC.
Matt Williams think his name is , Aussie coach who worked over there for years , now in their media
@kiwiinmelb said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@ACT-Crusader said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
It took 84 minutes (41 in the 1st and 43 in the 2nd) to beat this Irish team. They didn't do what they had done for the past 17 matches. They made mistakes. Their set piece was under massive pressure. They fluffed their maul attack with less than 10 to go. There were players with hands on hips with 2 minutes still on the clock. Even with space they couldn't take advantage of 1-on-1 contests.
So I don't disagree with Kearney in what is an Irish analysis of the match for an Irish audience (BTW who was the Aussie at the end of that coverage?). He was clearly disappointed. Sounded very familiar to the post 2007 QF analysis, where we didn't play even remotely to what we had been playing prior to the RWC.
Matt Williams think his name is , Aussie coach who worked over there for years , now in their media
Was Wobbly coach for a year wasn't he?
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ABs seen walking past this sign this week....
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Just on that last Irish possession, that was really smart accurate defense. Shuffled, covered everything, picke their moments to try the turnover. It was tense, but we never looked like breaking. Good shape, hard shoulders, smart play.
@mariner4life said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Just on that last Irish possession, that was really smart accurate defense. Shuffled, covered everything, picke their moments to try the turnover. It was tense, but we never looked like breaking. Good shape, hard shoulders, smart play.
Noticeable too was the ABs lining up well short of the offside line, again and again. By that time they knew they'd done the mahi in the first half making the whole Irish team work too hard for the yard and were confident they were reduced to just through the hands
