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RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina

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    Frank
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    Psychologically, this is a tough one for the ABs.

    Hopefully, all they focus on is getting back up for the Argentina game.

    Showing the team past episodes of us crashing out to a less fancied teams would help.

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      Ioane is still a huge worry for me. World Cups are won with defence and he missed 5 out of 13 tackles against Ireland, covered up by outstanding defence by almost everyone else.

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      • F Frank

        Psychologically, this is a tough one for the ABs.

        Hopefully, all they focus on is getting back up for the Argentina game.

        Showing the team past episodes of us crashing out to a less fancied teams would help.

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        @Frank France at Twickenham 99, Australia at Sydney 03, France at Cardiff 07 and England at Yokohama in 19.

        Let those (especially France 99) be our warnings against any complacency this week.

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          You should stuff them

          Calling boys v men in the tight and you won’t drop the ball and/or make the wrong choices like we did yesterday

          Jordan and Telea to get a hatful each

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            Will be the second consecutive week the Haka will get drowned out by the crowd after watching the Argies turn up against Wales, hopefully the same result follows though.

            Make no mistake NZ might find it hard to back up with the same intensity after last night, they gave their all out there. We should win but can’t go in expecting to win.

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              we'll be flat after today

              One option might be to go for a 6/2 split.

              ... warnings against any complacency this week

              NZ might find it hard to back up with the same intensity after last night

              This all sounds like Blackadder should be in the 23.

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              • DuluthD Duluth

                Telea back on the wing?

                Might be worth starting Whitelock depending on how knocked up the other locks are?

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                @Duluth said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                Telea back on the wing?

                And Roigard on the bench. Horses for courses. šŸ˜‰

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                • StargazerS Stargazer

                  we'll be flat after today

                  One option might be to go for a 6/2 split.

                  ... warnings against any complacency this week

                  NZ might find it hard to back up with the same intensity after last night

                  This all sounds like Blackadder should be in the 23.

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                  ACT Crusader
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                  @Stargazer said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                  This all sounds like Blackadder should be in the 23.

                  Argentina need not turn up then šŸ™‚

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                    We have some receipts for Argentina too, but my concern is that we can't get up enough for the game.

                    Honestly speaking that game today would be worthy of a WC final (I'll bet tomorrow's QF will be the same), and although I fucking hate some of the Irish players and ex-kiwis, they are the best (or next-best) team going around.

                    Our challenge will be to get bodies and minds right for next week without thinking about the fucking mountain to climb the following week if we are successful.

                    I would put Telea back in - our left edge was a huge fucking weakness.

                    We might want to start Whitelock and bring Scott Barrett off the bench. We could switch Paps and a starting loosie if required.

                    Whoever they plan to play as the back-up props, hooker, & HB in a potential final have to be on the bench. It's time for consistency, whether we agree with the selections or not.

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                      Roigard, DMac and Blackadder need to be involved. The question is who do we rest?

                      Maybe keep Frizzell on ice, do we protect A Smith and does BB come off the pine?

                      My team would be:

                      1. De Groot
                      2. Taylor
                      3. Lomax
                      4. Barrett
                      5. Whitelock (keep Rettalick fresher for the final by bringing him off the pine)
                      6. Blackadder (keep Frizzell fresh for the final)
                      7. Cane
                      8. Savea
                      9. Smith
                      10. Mo’unga
                      11. Fainganuku
                      12. Barrett
                      13. Ioane
                      14. Jordan
                      15. DMac (Beaudy off the pine)
                      16. Coles
                      17. Williams
                      18. Newell
                      19. Rettalick
                      20. Papali’i
                      21. Roigard
                      22. Barrett
                      23. Leinert-Brown
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                        Think it’s pretty pointless trying to pick a team until the bodies recover in a day or 2. Plenty of folk deserve a rest (JB, AS etc), but there could be niggles to deal with.

                        Ideally we start a full strength side, and have clear air to give the reserves a run, especially the backs who didn’t get a trot today

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                          I think it would be risky to make any changes thinking about the final. We need to front up with our best side and use our bench a little different.

                          I'd be surprised to see Blackadder start. If Foz was to make a change to starters it would be probably be Jacobson in. Blackadder a possible option on the bench in a 6/2

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                          • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                            I think it would be risky to make any changes thinking about the final. We need to front up with our best side and use our bench a little different.

                            I'd be surprised to see Blackadder start. If Foz was to make a change to starters it would be probably be Jacobson in. Blackadder a possible option on the bench in a 6/2

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                            @ACT-Crusader said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                            I think it would be risky to make any changes thinking about the final. We need to front up with our best side and use our bench a little different.

                            I'd be surprised to see Blackadder start. If Foz was to make a change to starters it would be probably be Jacobson in. Blackadder a possible option on the bench in a 6/2

                            Well I just said that, didn’t I šŸ˜Ž

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                            • chimoausC chimoaus

                              I think Telea will be the only change unless there is an injury.

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                              @chimoaus said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                              I think Telea will be the only change unless there is an injury.

                              Depends on how Nugget is physically, but expect Roigard on the bench with some minutes. The thinking about Christie's selection for defence hopefully won't count in this game.

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                              • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                @chimoaus said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                                I think Telea will be the only change unless there is an injury.

                                Depends on how Nugget is physically, but expect Roigard on the bench with some minutes. The thinking about Christie's selection for defence hopefully won't count in this game.

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                                @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                                @chimoaus said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                                I think Telea will be the only change unless there is an injury.

                                Depends on how Nugget is physically. Expect Roigard on the bench.

                                Why? Horse for courses??

                                As much as I want Roigard to be there, I also want Foster to commit to a reserve 9 - and if that’s Christie, then he should be on the bench again this week ahead of the (touch wood) final

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                                  It's a fucking world cup semi final

                                  Play the top team and hope we are in a position to give guys an early mark

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                                  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                    Roigard, DMac and Blackadder need to be involved. The question is who do we rest?

                                    Maybe keep Frizzell on ice, do we protect A Smith and does BB come off the pine?

                                    My team would be:

                                    1. De Groot
                                    2. Taylor
                                    3. Lomax
                                    4. Barrett
                                    5. Whitelock (keep Rettalick fresher for the final by bringing him off the pine)
                                    6. Blackadder (keep Frizzell fresh for the final)
                                    7. Cane
                                    8. Savea
                                    9. Smith
                                    10. Mo’unga
                                    11. Fainganuku
                                    12. Barrett
                                    13. Ioane
                                    14. Jordan
                                    15. DMac (Beaudy off the pine)
                                    16. Coles
                                    17. Williams
                                    18. Newell
                                    19. Rettalick
                                    20. Papali’i
                                    21. Roigard
                                    22. Barrett
                                    23. Leinert-Brown
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                                    @Canes4life said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                                    Roigard, DMac and Blackadder need to be involved. The question is who do we rest?

                                    Maybe keep Frizzell on ice, do we protect A Smith and does BB come off the pine?

                                    My team would be:

                                    1. De Groot
                                    2. Taylor
                                    3. Lomax
                                    4. Barrett
                                    5. Whitelock (keep Rettalick fresher for the final by bringing him off the pine)
                                    6. Blackadder (keep Frizzell fresh for the final)
                                    7. Cane
                                    8. Savea
                                    9. Smith
                                    10. Mo’unga
                                    11. Fainganuku
                                    12. Barrett
                                    13. Ioane
                                    14. Jordan
                                    15. DMac (Beaudy off the pine)
                                    16. Coles
                                    17. Williams
                                    18. Newell
                                    19. Rettalick
                                    20. Papali’i
                                    21. Roigard
                                    22. Barrett
                                    23. Leinert-Brown

                                    Christ, not this shit again.

                                    The ABs managed to win a massive game without him. I for one would be pissed off if they shoehorn him in at anyones expense.

                                    Save this claptrap for when Cane has retired.

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                                      Come on Foz you got this

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                                      • voodooV voodoo

                                        @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                                        @chimoaus said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                                        I think Telea will be the only change unless there is an injury.

                                        Depends on how Nugget is physically. Expect Roigard on the bench.

                                        Why? Horse for courses??

                                        As much as I want Roigard to be there, I also want Foster to commit to a reserve 9 - and if that’s Christie, then he should be on the bench again this week ahead of the (touch wood) final

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                                        @voodoo said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                                        @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                                        @chimoaus said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                                        I think Telea will be the only change unless there is an injury.

                                        Depends on how Nugget is physically. Expect Roigard on the bench.

                                        Why? Horse for courses??

                                        As much as I want Roigard to be there, I also want Foster to commit to a reserve 9 - and if that’s Christie, then he should be on the bench again this week ahead of the (touch wood) final

                                        Yup. He better stick to his convictions. If having a defensive edge is required for a quarter final, when you don't even give him any game time - then it sure as shit is required in a final if we make it. Wouldn't that be just great going into the final with a reserve halfback who's had 3 games off.

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                                          Dedicate this thread to JB

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