RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina
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we'll be flat after today
One option might be to go for a 6/2 split.
... warnings against any complacency this week
NZ might find it hard to back up with the same intensity after last night
This all sounds like Blackadder should be in the 23.
@Stargazer said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
This all sounds like Blackadder should be in the 23.
Argentina need not turn up then
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We have some receipts for Argentina too, but my concern is that we can't get up enough for the game.
Honestly speaking that game today would be worthy of a WC final (I'll bet tomorrow's QF will be the same), and although I fucking hate some of the Irish players and ex-kiwis, they are the best (or next-best) team going around.
Our challenge will be to get bodies and minds right for next week without thinking about the fucking mountain to climb the following week if we are successful.
I would put Telea back in - our left edge was a huge fucking weakness.
We might want to start Whitelock and bring Scott Barrett off the bench. We could switch Paps and a starting loosie if required.
Whoever they plan to play as the back-up props, hooker, & HB in a potential final have to be on the bench. It's time for consistency, whether we agree with the selections or not.
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Roigard, DMac and Blackadder need to be involved. The question is who do we rest?
Maybe keep Frizzell on ice, do we protect A Smith and does BB come off the pine?
My team would be:
- De Groot
- Taylor
- Lomax
- Barrett
- Whitelock (keep Rettalick fresher for the final by bringing him off the pine)
- Blackadder (keep Frizzell fresh for the final)
- Cane
- Savea
- Smith
- Mo’unga
- Fainganuku
- Barrett
- Ioane
- Jordan
- DMac (Beaudy off the pine)
- Coles
- Williams
- Newell
- Rettalick
- Papali’i
- Roigard
- Barrett
- Leinert-Brown
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Think it’s pretty pointless trying to pick a team until the bodies recover in a day or 2. Plenty of folk deserve a rest (JB, AS etc), but there could be niggles to deal with.
Ideally we start a full strength side, and have clear air to give the reserves a run, especially the backs who didn’t get a trot today
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I think it would be risky to make any changes thinking about the final. We need to front up with our best side and use our bench a little different.
I'd be surprised to see Blackadder start. If Foz was to make a change to starters it would be probably be Jacobson in. Blackadder a possible option on the bench in a 6/2
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I think it would be risky to make any changes thinking about the final. We need to front up with our best side and use our bench a little different.
I'd be surprised to see Blackadder start. If Foz was to make a change to starters it would be probably be Jacobson in. Blackadder a possible option on the bench in a 6/2
@ACT-Crusader said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
I think it would be risky to make any changes thinking about the final. We need to front up with our best side and use our bench a little different.
I'd be surprised to see Blackadder start. If Foz was to make a change to starters it would be probably be Jacobson in. Blackadder a possible option on the bench in a 6/2
Well I just said that, didn’t I
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@chimoaus said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
I think Telea will be the only change unless there is an injury.
Depends on how Nugget is physically, but expect Roigard on the bench with some minutes. The thinking about Christie's selection for defence hopefully won't count in this game.
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@chimoaus said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
I think Telea will be the only change unless there is an injury.
Depends on how Nugget is physically, but expect Roigard on the bench with some minutes. The thinking about Christie's selection for defence hopefully won't count in this game.
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@chimoaus said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
I think Telea will be the only change unless there is an injury.
Depends on how Nugget is physically. Expect Roigard on the bench.
Why? Horse for courses??
As much as I want Roigard to be there, I also want Foster to commit to a reserve 9 - and if that’s Christie, then he should be on the bench again this week ahead of the (touch wood) final
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It's a fucking world cup semi final
Play the top team and hope we are in a position to give guys an early mark
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Roigard, DMac and Blackadder need to be involved. The question is who do we rest?
Maybe keep Frizzell on ice, do we protect A Smith and does BB come off the pine?
My team would be:
- De Groot
- Taylor
- Lomax
- Barrett
- Whitelock (keep Rettalick fresher for the final by bringing him off the pine)
- Blackadder (keep Frizzell fresh for the final)
- Cane
- Savea
- Smith
- Mo’unga
- Fainganuku
- Barrett
- Ioane
- Jordan
- DMac (Beaudy off the pine)
- Coles
- Williams
- Newell
- Rettalick
- Papali’i
- Roigard
- Barrett
- Leinert-Brown
@Canes4life said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
Roigard, DMac and Blackadder need to be involved. The question is who do we rest?
Maybe keep Frizzell on ice, do we protect A Smith and does BB come off the pine?
My team would be:
- De Groot
- Taylor
- Lomax
- Barrett
- Whitelock (keep Rettalick fresher for the final by bringing him off the pine)
- Blackadder (keep Frizzell fresh for the final)
- Cane
- Savea
- Smith
- Mo’unga
- Fainganuku
- Barrett
- Ioane
- Jordan
- DMac (Beaudy off the pine)
- Coles
- Williams
- Newell
- Rettalick
- Papali’i
- Roigard
- Barrett
- Leinert-Brown
Christ, not this shit again.
The ABs managed to win a massive game without him. I for one would be pissed off if they shoehorn him in at anyones expense.
Save this claptrap for when Cane has retired.
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Come on Foz you got this
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@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@chimoaus said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
I think Telea will be the only change unless there is an injury.
Depends on how Nugget is physically. Expect Roigard on the bench.
Why? Horse for courses??
As much as I want Roigard to be there, I also want Foster to commit to a reserve 9 - and if that’s Christie, then he should be on the bench again this week ahead of the (touch wood) final
@voodoo said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@chimoaus said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
I think Telea will be the only change unless there is an injury.
Depends on how Nugget is physically. Expect Roigard on the bench.
Why? Horse for courses??
As much as I want Roigard to be there, I also want Foster to commit to a reserve 9 - and if that’s Christie, then he should be on the bench again this week ahead of the (touch wood) final
Yup. He better stick to his convictions. If having a defensive edge is required for a quarter final, when you don't even give him any game time - then it sure as shit is required in a final if we make it. Wouldn't that be just great going into the final with a reserve halfback who's had 3 games off.
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Dedicate this thread to JB
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@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@chimoaus said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
I think Telea will be the only change unless there is an injury.
Depends on how Nugget is physically. Expect Roigard on the bench.
Why? Horse for courses??
As much as I want Roigard to be there, I also want Foster to commit to a reserve 9 - and if that’s Christie, then he should be on the bench again this week ahead of the (touch wood) final
@voodoo said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
Why? Horse for courses??
Yeah, think so. Foster has made that clear that the reserve 9 for Ireland was picked on that basis. Maybe they think they'll need to defend against Argentina in the last 20 as well.
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@voodoo said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@chimoaus said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
I think Telea will be the only change unless there is an injury.
Depends on how Nugget is physically. Expect Roigard on the bench.
Why? Horse for courses??
As much as I want Roigard to be there, I also want Foster to commit to a reserve 9 - and if that’s Christie, then he should be on the bench again this week ahead of the (touch wood) final
Yup. He better stick to his convictions. If having a defensive edge is required for a quarter final, when you don't even give him any game time - then it sure as shit is required in a final if we make it. Wouldn't that be just great going into the final with a reserve halfback who's had 3 games off.
@Bones said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@voodoo said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@chimoaus said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
I think Telea will be the only change unless there is an injury.
Depends on how Nugget is physically. Expect Roigard on the bench.
Why? Horse for courses??
As much as I want Roigard to be there, I also want Foster to commit to a reserve 9 - and if that’s Christie, then he should be on the bench again this week ahead of the (touch wood) final
Yup. He better stick to his convictions. If having a defensive edge is required for a quarter final, when you don't even give him any game time - then it sure as shit is required in a final if we make it. Wouldn't that be just great going into the final with a reserve halfback who's had 3 games off.
Who do you want on the bench as Christie didn't play, so continuity isn't an issue? Roigard or Christie?
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@Bones said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@voodoo said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@chimoaus said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
I think Telea will be the only change unless there is an injury.
Depends on how Nugget is physically. Expect Roigard on the bench.
Why? Horse for courses??
As much as I want Roigard to be there, I also want Foster to commit to a reserve 9 - and if that’s Christie, then he should be on the bench again this week ahead of the (touch wood) final
Yup. He better stick to his convictions. If having a defensive edge is required for a quarter final, when you don't even give him any game time - then it sure as shit is required in a final if we make it. Wouldn't that be just great going into the final with a reserve halfback who's had 3 games off.
Who do you want on the bench as Christie didn't play, so continuity isn't an issue? Roigard or Christie?
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@Bones said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@voodoo said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@chimoaus said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
I think Telea will be the only change unless there is an injury.
Depends on how Nugget is physically. Expect Roigard on the bench.
Why? Horse for courses??
As much as I want Roigard to be there, I also want Foster to commit to a reserve 9 - and if that’s Christie, then he should be on the bench again this week ahead of the (touch wood) final
Yup. He better stick to his convictions. If having a defensive edge is required for a quarter final, when you don't even give him any game time - then it sure as shit is required in a final if we make it. Wouldn't that be just great going into the final with a reserve halfback who's had 3 games off.
Who do you want on the bench as Christie didn't play, so continuity isn't an issue? Roigard or Christie?
Did you not read the post you just quoted?
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@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@Bones said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@voodoo said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@chimoaus said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
I think Telea will be the only change unless there is an injury.
Depends on how Nugget is physically. Expect Roigard on the bench.
Why? Horse for courses??
As much as I want Roigard to be there, I also want Foster to commit to a reserve 9 - and if that’s Christie, then he should be on the bench again this week ahead of the (touch wood) final
Yup. He better stick to his convictions. If having a defensive edge is required for a quarter final, when you don't even give him any game time - then it sure as shit is required in a final if we make it. Wouldn't that be just great going into the final with a reserve halfback who's had 3 games off.
Who do you want on the bench as Christie didn't play, so continuity isn't an issue? Roigard or Christie?
Did you not read the post you just quoted?
@Bones said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@Bones said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@voodoo said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@chimoaus said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
I think Telea will be the only change unless there is an injury.
Depends on how Nugget is physically. Expect Roigard on the bench.
Why? Horse for courses??
As much as I want Roigard to be there, I also want Foster to commit to a reserve 9 - and if that’s Christie, then he should be on the bench again this week ahead of the (touch wood) final
Yup. He better stick to his convictions. If having a defensive edge is required for a quarter final, when you don't even give him any game time - then it sure as shit is required in a final if we make it. Wouldn't that be just great going into the final with a reserve halfback who's had 3 games off.
Who do you want on the bench as Christie didn't play, so continuity isn't an issue? Roigard or Christie?
Did you not read the post you just quoted?
Yep. T'was a genuine question as Christie hasn't much game-time either.
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@Bones said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@Bones said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@voodoo said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@chimoaus said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
I think Telea will be the only change unless there is an injury.
Depends on how Nugget is physically. Expect Roigard on the bench.
Why? Horse for courses??
As much as I want Roigard to be there, I also want Foster to commit to a reserve 9 - and if that’s Christie, then he should be on the bench again this week ahead of the (touch wood) final
Yup. He better stick to his convictions. If having a defensive edge is required for a quarter final, when you don't even give him any game time - then it sure as shit is required in a final if we make it. Wouldn't that be just great going into the final with a reserve halfback who's had 3 games off.
Who do you want on the bench as Christie didn't play, so continuity isn't an issue? Roigard or Christie?
Did you not read the post you just quoted?
Yep. T'was a genuine question as Christie hasn't much game-time either.
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@Bones said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@Bones said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@voodoo said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@chimoaus said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
I think Telea will be the only change unless there is an injury.
Depends on how Nugget is physically. Expect Roigard on the bench.
Why? Horse for courses??
As much as I want Roigard to be there, I also want Foster to commit to a reserve 9 - and if that’s Christie, then he should be on the bench again this week ahead of the (touch wood) final
Yup. He better stick to his convictions. If having a defensive edge is required for a quarter final, when you don't even give him any game time - then it sure as shit is required in a final if we make it. Wouldn't that be just great going into the final with a reserve halfback who's had 3 games off.
Who do you want on the bench as Christie didn't play, so continuity isn't an issue? Roigard or Christie?
Did you not read the post you just quoted?
Yep. T'was a genuine question as Christie hasn't much game-time either.
I literally just said Christie better be the halfback because we'd sure as shit need a defensive edge in the final and I don't want to be playing the final with a reserve halfback who's had 3 games off.
