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RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland

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    On the players behavior on the field - I loved Rieko holding his ear to the crowd, absolutely fucking awesome. Just like I laughed my ass off when Merhts pulled the fingers to SA fans after winning the game. Rugby wouldn't be the same without Gregan's epic sledge. POMs "shit McCaw" sledge was superb, and credit to Cane for sticking it to him this game. This is professional sport, not fucking kids ruppa rugby, these guys are at the top of their field and are going to battle every time they play, I'd fucking hate it if any of that stuff was removed from the game. May as well watch robots.

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      @No-Quarter They backed their "cut and paste" attack to pry open the ABs defence.

      They had made good progress down the pitch. The Irish breakdown work was exemplary for the most part in that last stanza and they were getting nearer to the line.

      It took incredible discipline for NZ not to cough up the penalty (which would have been kicked to the corner) and patience to wait for opportunities to effect the winning breakdown turnover/penalty.

      Ireland didn't think NZ had that patience and discipline. I'll bet a fair number of NZ fans didn't either 😄

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      @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

      They backed their "cut and paste" attack to pry open the ABs defence.

      That was quite the telling comment from Foz.

      As if, in actual fact, they have fuck all variation, and once you figure it out, you can defend it all day.

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      • No QuarterN No Quarter

        On the players behavior on the field - I loved Rieko holding his ear to the crowd, absolutely fucking awesome. Just like I laughed my ass off when Merhts pulled the fingers to SA fans after winning the game. Rugby wouldn't be the same without Gregan's epic sledge. POMs "shit McCaw" sledge was superb, and credit to Cane for sticking it to him this game. This is professional sport, not fucking kids ruppa rugby, these guys are at the top of their field and are going to battle every time they play, I'd fucking hate it if any of that stuff was removed from the game. May as well watch robots.

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        @No-Quarter said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

        On the players behavior on the field - I loved Rieko holding his ear to the crowd, absolutely fucking awesome. Just like I laughed my ass off when Merhts pulled the fingers to SA fans after winning the game. Rugby wouldn't be the same without Gregan's epic sledge. POMs "shit McCaw" sledge was superb, and credit to Cane for sticking it to him this game. This is professional sport, not fucking kids ruppa rugby, these guys are at the top of their field and are going to battle every time they play, I'd fucking hate it if any of that stuff was removed from the game. May as well watch robots.

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          @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

          They backed their "cut and paste" attack to pry open the ABs defence.

          That was quite the telling comment from Foz.

          As if, in actual fact, they have fuck all variation, and once you figure it out, you can defend it all day.

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          @Frank It is a bit like the Bok defence. You know what is coming, but stopping it is another matter.

          NZ in the series loss couldn't deal with it. It speaks volumes that the coaching team and players put in the work to be able to deal with it on the weekend.

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            @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

            They backed their "cut and paste" attack to pry open the ABs defence.

            That was quite the telling comment from Foz.

            As if, in actual fact, they have fuck all variation, and once you figure it out, you can defend it all day.

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            @Frank said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

            @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

            They backed their "cut and paste" attack to pry open the ABs defence.

            That was quite the telling comment from Foz.

            As if, in actual fact, they have fuck all variation, and once you figure it out, you can defend it all day.

            I noticed this in my drunken haze at the ground. It was all very methodical.

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            • NTAN NTA

              @NTA said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

              I thought Barnes got the first scrum wrong tho - ABs THP folded in for me

              Alex Corbisiero has a look at the scrums.

              https://twitter.com/AlexCorbs/status/1713639502319931494

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              @NTA said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

              @NTA said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

              I thought Barnes got the first scrum wrong tho - ABs THP folded in for me

              Alex Corbisiero has a look at the scrums.

              https://twitter.com/AlexCorbs/status/1713639502319931494

              Fuck there's some bullshit about crediting these guys this much ability to judge nano seconds and the ultra subtle reactions.

              Mirroring? What the fuck us that? Little tugs on the arm?

              Fuck these guys are just pushing like fuck, with all the oxygen in their brains having been depleted in milli-seconds, seeing stars and hoping like hell they're pushing harder and straighter than the other guys.

              I seriously doubt they're making such nuanced splut second decisions.

              Any serious frontrowers out there want to comment? Am I just too amateur?

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              • boobooB booboo

                @NTA said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                @NTA said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                I thought Barnes got the first scrum wrong tho - ABs THP folded in for me

                Alex Corbisiero has a look at the scrums.

                https://twitter.com/AlexCorbs/status/1713639502319931494

                Fuck there's some bullshit about crediting these guys this much ability to judge nano seconds and the ultra subtle reactions.

                Mirroring? What the fuck us that? Little tugs on the arm?

                Fuck these guys are just pushing like fuck, with all the oxygen in their brains having been depleted in milli-seconds, seeing stars and hoping like hell they're pushing harder and straighter than the other guys.

                I seriously doubt they're making such nuanced splut second decisions.

                Any serious frontrowers out there want to comment? Am I just too amateur?

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                @booboo he's applying terms to describe what is happening, and how you might analyse it after the game.

                Inside the front row it's mostly reacting and not thinking too much about it. Depending on the outcome, apply the lesson at the next scrum.

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                • No QuarterN No Quarter

                  On the players behavior on the field - I loved Rieko holding his ear to the crowd, absolutely fucking awesome. Just like I laughed my ass off when Merhts pulled the fingers to SA fans after winning the game. Rugby wouldn't be the same without Gregan's epic sledge. POMs "shit McCaw" sledge was superb, and credit to Cane for sticking it to him this game. This is professional sport, not fucking kids ruppa rugby, these guys are at the top of their field and are going to battle every time they play, I'd fucking hate it if any of that stuff was removed from the game. May as well watch robots.

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                  @No-Quarter indeed, but if you want to dance you gotta pay the piper.

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                  • boobooB booboo

                    @junior said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                    @ShitMcCaw said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                    Meh. You are better than us but all the bad mouthing of sexton by all blacks fans comes across as weak to me. He pumped you a good few times and that doesn’t sit will with you because he’s not meek and self effacing like you expect us to be. But guess what. Winning is what counts and we’ve gone from never beating you to pumping you five times in ten years. Would be a sad and soppy game if we turned everything into a saddo popularity contest. Maybe have a bit of grace and realise he’s one of the best you’ve come across.

                    Sorry, mate, but this is one of the worst takes on Sexton I've ever read. He is loathed by every group of rugby fans around the world, not just us AB fans who supposedly expect him to be meek. He's "pumped" plenty of other teams many more times and their fans all agree that he is a fucking cock (still a great rugby player, and probably the second greatest Irish player in m lifetime, to be fair to the man).

                    Keith Wood?

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                    @booboo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                    @junior said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                    @ShitMcCaw said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                    Meh. You are better than us but all the bad mouthing of sexton by all blacks fans comes across as weak to me. He pumped you a good few times and that doesn’t sit will with you because he’s not meek and self effacing like you expect us to be. But guess what. Winning is what counts and we’ve gone from never beating you to pumping you five times in ten years. Would be a sad and soppy game if we turned everything into a saddo popularity contest. Maybe have a bit of grace and realise he’s one of the best you’ve come across.

                    Sorry, mate, but this is one of the worst takes on Sexton I've ever read. He is loathed by every group of rugby fans around the world, not just us AB fans who supposedly expect him to be meek. He's "pumped" plenty of other teams many more times and their fans all agree that he is a fucking cock (still a great rugby player, and probably the second greatest Irish player in m lifetime, to be fair to the man).

                    Keith Wood?

                    Nah the other chap, the one who could have died that time

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                      If any neutral is wondering why we are enjoying this victory so much, have a read of Tommy Bowes column

                      https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/67115828

                      tl;dr Ireland are the best, the Irish are the best, Irish alone lit up this world up, Sexton is the greatest. A wee mention about how they failed again and next time the weight will be larger.

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                        @His-Bobness said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                        @MajorRage Fair enough. You have a different view. I think the Irish started getting up the noses of a lot of people when they started playing well and winning. I suspect the two things are connected.

                        I've no doubt there's a considerable element of truth in that statement. I've witnessed it ad nauseum in sports when teams start winning regularly. And to be fair, a lot of people acknowledged how well Ireland played over the last few years and how well they've set up their systems.

                        Any team that starts winning tends to attract bandwagon supporters and national teams magnify that. The issue is the attracted occasional fan tends not to understand the subtleties, nor the culture. Hence you get an increasing percentage of mouthy piston wristed gibbons that irritate all concerned.

                        But for all that, I can only think of two Irish players that came in for any opprobrium. One that mouthed off to our captain and was near invisible in Ireland's biggest game, and one who is near universally derided for his character.

                        And I think Test rugby is in a better place with a stronger Ireland.

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                        @antipodean said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                        @His-Bobness said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                        @MajorRage Fair enough. You have a different view. I think the Irish started getting up the noses of a lot of people when they started playing well and winning. I suspect the two things are connected.

                        I've no doubt there's a considerable element of truth in that statement. I've witnessed it ad nauseum in sports when teams start winning regularly. And to be fair, a lot of people acknowledged how well Ireland played over the last few years and how well they've set up their systems.

                        Any team that starts winning tends to attract bandwagon supporters and national teams magnify that. The issue is the attracted occasional fan tends not to understand the subtleties, nor the culture. Hence you get an increasing percentage of mouthy piston wristed gibbons that irritate all concerned.

                        But for all that, I can only think of two Irish players that came in for any opprobrium. One that mouthed off to our captain and was near invisible in Ireland's biggest game, and one who is near universally derided for his character.

                        And I think Test rugby is in a better place with a stronger Ireland.

                        Yeah this. It's dumb to say someone is the target of hate just because they're good. Nick White is universally despised here, not because he's awesome, but because he's a ridiculous looking, whinging knobjockey.

                        Me thinks that alot of this is projection. Perfect example, Ritchie McCaw. The guy who barely opens his mouth is transformed into gobby because he's so farking good.

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                          https://www.facebook.com/reel/1371831207090097?mibextid=roAVj8

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                            Some real pearl clutching in this thread.

                            It's not tiddlywinks.

                            Dish it out, get it back.

                            Entertain the masses, and pay for hookers and blow for the administrators.

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                            @nzzp

                            Sports administration. Living the dream!!

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                            • MajorPomM MajorPom

                              If any neutral is wondering why we are enjoying this victory so much, have a read of Tommy Bowes column

                              https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/67115828

                              tl;dr Ireland are the best, the Irish are the best, Irish alone lit up this world up, Sexton is the greatest. A wee mention about how they failed again and next time the weight will be larger.

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                              @MajorRage

                              So apparently they were shit at kicking, the breakdown, scrums, lineouts and in the air and were out-thought by NZ. But they were actually the better team who only lost because they didn't bring their A-game.

                              Also sounds a bit suspiciously like the BS spouted by some Kiwi commentators when Ireland won the series last year.

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                                I'm quite sick of this BS that Ireland deserved more. Phuck that. They deserved to be No.1 because they won all them games. They deserved the favourites tag because of recent form and they deserved a QF because they won their pool games but by phuck did Sexton deserve to win the RWC because he didn't win the right to another week. If we get dealt to by Argentina this week, no one will be saying we "deserved" more.

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                                • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                  @MajorRage

                                  So apparently they were shit at kicking, the breakdown, scrums, lineouts and in the air and were out-thought by NZ. But they were actually the better team who only lost because they didn't bring their A-game.

                                  Also sounds a bit suspiciously like the BS spouted by some Kiwi commentators when Ireland won the series last year.

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                                  @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                  @MajorRage

                                  So apparently they were shit at kicking, the breakdown, scrums, lineouts and in the air and were out-thought by NZ. But they were actually the better team who only lost because they didn't bring their A-game.

                                  Also sounds a bit suspiciously like the BS spouted by some Kiwi commentators when Ireland won the series last year.

                                  I just can't wait for that smug bitch face look Goldie will sport if we go on at do the unthinkable.

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                                    @canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                    https://www.facebook.com/reel/1371831207090097?mibextid=roAVj8

                                    Brought it all back. Had ITV comms here, first I've seen NZ comms.

                                    Nisbett still got it for the big moment.

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                                    • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                      @nostrildamus Not really.

                                      The ABs formed a guard for the Irish to come off the field.

                                      Doesn't hurt us to do as well.

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                                      @Chris-B said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                      @nostrildamus Not really.

                                      The ABs formed a guard for the Irish to come off the field.

                                      Doesn't hurt us to do as well.

                                      I'm sorry, wasn't a serious comment.

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                                        Wouldn't the French be hurting just as much if not more?

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                                          Watch it again and enjoy!!

                                          No doubt the pass at 79:57 was a mile forwards too.

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