RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland
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@His-Bobness Nice write up, but I've hated the Irish (in a rugby sense) since coulda-doid and their fanbase started turning nasty (I also remember them supporting the Aussies over us in 91 even though the Aussies knocked them out) - add to that their players in front of the ball I highlighted earlier in the thread and of the top 4 teams they are the team I least wanted to win the RWC.
Plus, I had a run in with that prick Irish journo Gallagher on twitter who was being a twat over NZ PIs on twitter.
Plus plus, my Irish ancestry is of the Jewish persuasion, and although they took my Eastern European ancestor in after the odd pogrom or two in the east they still didn't make it a welcoming place for even my Ireland born Jewish ancestor. Which I guess had the benefit of getting to NZ eventually to help colonise my other ancestors.
In saying all that I'll still support them over England.
@Nepia said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@His-Bobness Nice write up, but I've hated the Irish (in a rugby sense) since coulda-doid and their fanbase started turning nasty (I also remember them supporting the Aussies over us in 91 even though the Aussies knocked them out) - add to that their players in front of the ball I highlighted earlier in the thread and of the top 4 teams they are the team I least wanted to win the RWC.
Plus, I had a run in with that prick Irish journo Gallagher on twitter who was being a twat over NZ PIs on twitter.
Plus plus, my Irish ancestry is of the Jewish persuasion, and although they took my Eastern European ancestor in after the odd pogrom or two in the east they still didn't make it a welcoming place for even my Ireland born Jewish ancestor. Which I guess had the benefit of getting to NZ eventually to help colonise my other ancestors.
In saying all that I'll still support them over England.
Having lived in Ireland one thing I found weird was how it’s almost impossible to become Irish. In NZ if you emigrate here and want to make a go of it we treat you as a kiwi fast as. There they are really protective of bring Irish. It’s definitely a country where you could live 60 years and stil be viewed as a foreigner. Despite all their history of emigration themselves.
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@His-Bobness Who is their South African? Please don't say van der Flier
@stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@His-Bobness Who is their South African? Please don't say van der Flier
Their third hooker herring is south African.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@taniwharugby Fozzie & McLeod playing rope-a-dope?
Fozzie's master plan revealed post RWC: spend 3.5 years systemically eroding over 100 years of rugby mana, lulling our opponents into a false sense of security, and creating massive seige mentality and presenting our team with a huge chip on their shoulders for the push to RWC glory
I was thinking more along the lines of: "We'll fool these buggers into thinking our D is crap and one-dimensional and they won't worry about varying their attack when they next meet us.."
But seriously, I do wonder if Foster & co had noticed something robotic about the Irish attack when chasing a game down and planned for that in their defensive preparation.
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@stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@His-Bobness Who is their South African? Please don't say van der Flier
Their third hooker herring is south African.
@Billy-Tell learn something new every day. Thanks!
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@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@chimoaus said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Losing to France was a master stroke, all hail king Fozzie.
Cunning bugger, eh? He's in the Semis and Gaultier isn't.
3 losers in the semis.
England hottest of unbeaten hot hot favourites.
@booboo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@chimoaus said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Losing to France was a master stroke, all hail king Fozzie.
Cunning bugger, eh? He's in the Semis and Gaultier isn't.
3 losers in the semis.
England hottest of unbeaten hot hot favourites.
Just like us in 2019...
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@No-Quarter They backed their "cut and paste" attack to pry open the ABs defence.
They had made good progress down the pitch. The Irish breakdown work was exemplary for the most part in that last stanza and they were getting nearer to the line.
It took incredible discipline for NZ not to cough up the penalty (which would have been kicked to the corner) and patience to wait for opportunities to effect the winning breakdown turnover/penalty.
Ireland didn't think NZ had that patience and discipline. I'll bet a fair number of NZ fans didn't either
@stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@No-Quarter They backed their "cut and paste" attack to pry open the ABs defence.
They had made good progress down the pitch. The Irish breakdown work was exemplary for the most part in that last stanza and they were getting nearer to the line.
It took incredible discipline for NZ not to cough up the penalty (which would have been kicked to the corner) and patience to wait for opportunities to effect the winning breakdown turnover/penalty.
Ireland didn't think NZ had that patience and discipline. I'll bet a fair number of NZ fans didn't either
That's a fair assessment. Probably more a symptom of their attack lacking any real 'plan B' so once we figured out how to hold them out they ran out of ideas.
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I was thinking more along the lines of: "We'll fool these buggers into thinking our D is crap and one-dimensional and they won't worry about varying their attack when they next meet us.."
But seriously, I do wonder if Foster & co had noticed something robotic about the Irish attack when chasing a game down and planned for that in their defensive preparation.
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
I was thinking more along the lines of: "We'll fool these buggers into thinking our D is crap and one-dimensional and they won't worry about varying their attack when they next meet us.."
But seriously, I do wonder if Foster & co had noticed something robotic about the Irish attack when chasing a game down and planned for that in their defensive preparation.
Just heard a soundbite from Coles about the next game. Talked about scores to settle from losing to the Argies recently......
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@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
I was thinking more along the lines of: "We'll fool these buggers into thinking our D is crap and one-dimensional and they won't worry about varying their attack when they next meet us.."
But seriously, I do wonder if Foster & co had noticed something robotic about the Irish attack when chasing a game down and planned for that in their defensive preparation.
Just heard a soundbite from Coles about the next game. Talked about scores to settle from losing to the Argies recently......
@canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
I was thinking more along the lines of: "We'll fool these buggers into thinking our D is crap and one-dimensional and they won't worry about varying their attack when they next meet us.."
But seriously, I do wonder if Foster & co had noticed something robotic about the Irish attack when chasing a game down and planned for that in their defensive preparation.
Just heard a soundbite from Coles about the next game. Talked about scores to settle from losing to the Argies recently......
The team is doing a good job of creating a bunker mentality. The chip is working for them.
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@pakman said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@scribe said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Frank said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
They backed their "cut and paste" attack to pry open the ABs defence.
That was quite the telling comment from Foz.
As if, in actual fact, they have fuck all variation, and once you figure it out, you can defend it all day.
I noticed this in my drunken haze at the ground. It was all very methodical.
Boks guy was commenting on same at pub last night, and how slow Sexton was. Perhaps after the 30th phase a pop kick might have been worth a shot? Definition of insanity and all?
They were 4 points down
@booboo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@pakman said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@scribe said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Frank said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
They backed their "cut and paste" attack to pry open the ABs defence.
That was quite the telling comment from Foz.
As if, in actual fact, they have fuck all variation, and once you figure it out, you can defend it all day.
I noticed this in my drunken haze at the ground. It was all very methodical.
Boks guy was commenting on same at pub last night, and how slow Sexton was. Perhaps after the 30th phase a pop kick might have been worth a shot? Definition of insanity and all?
They were 4 points down
Their cut and paste wasn't working. Roll the die? Pretty tame ending for them.
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@canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
I was thinking more along the lines of: "We'll fool these buggers into thinking our D is crap and one-dimensional and they won't worry about varying their attack when they next meet us.."
But seriously, I do wonder if Foster & co had noticed something robotic about the Irish attack when chasing a game down and planned for that in their defensive preparation.
Just heard a soundbite from Coles about the next game. Talked about scores to settle from losing to the Argies recently......
The team is doing a good job of creating a bunker mentality. The chip is working for them.
@Kirwan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
I was thinking more along the lines of: "We'll fool these buggers into thinking our D is crap and one-dimensional and they won't worry about varying their attack when they next meet us.."
But seriously, I do wonder if Foster & co had noticed something robotic about the Irish attack when chasing a game down and planned for that in their defensive preparation.
Just heard a soundbite from Coles about the next game. Talked about scores to settle from losing to the Argies recently......
The team is doing a good job of creating a bunker mentality. The chip is working for them.
Yep, I'm increasingly thinking this is what will get the AB's through the next two weeks. Always hoping!
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@Kirwan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
I was thinking more along the lines of: "We'll fool these buggers into thinking our D is crap and one-dimensional and they won't worry about varying their attack when they next meet us.."
But seriously, I do wonder if Foster & co had noticed something robotic about the Irish attack when chasing a game down and planned for that in their defensive preparation.
Just heard a soundbite from Coles about the next game. Talked about scores to settle from losing to the Argies recently......
The team is doing a good job of creating a bunker mentality. The chip is working for them.
Yep, I'm increasingly thinking this is what will get the AB's through the next two weeks. Always hoping!
@Donsteppa said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Kirwan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
I was thinking more along the lines of: "We'll fool these buggers into thinking our D is crap and one-dimensional and they won't worry about varying their attack when they next meet us.."
But seriously, I do wonder if Foster & co had noticed something robotic about the Irish attack when chasing a game down and planned for that in their defensive preparation.
Just heard a soundbite from Coles about the next game. Talked about scores to settle from losing to the Argies recently......
The team is doing a good job of creating a bunker mentality. The chip is working for them.
Yep, I'm increasingly thinking this is what will get the AB's through the next two weeks. Always hoping!
If the ABs are anything like me, the thought of Boks on trophy a fourth time is motivation enough.
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Maybe this is the opposite of the 2007 RWC campaign. Rather than over thinking it about whether individual players can get through three knockout games in a row, just get stuck in and fire up for each game at a time.
Injuries, attrition, and tiredness being factors that each team that makes the Final just has to deal with.
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Maybe this is the opposite of the 2007 RWC campaign. Rather than over thinking it about whether individual players can get through three knockout games in a row, just get stuck in and fire up for each game at a time.
Injuries, attrition, and tiredness being factors that each team that makes the Final just has to deal with.
@Donsteppa yeah, i think a league you have to manage fatigue....but we're at the big show...leave it all out there, best team every week, let the strapping tap take us through the final
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@booboo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Wairau said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@MajorRage there were many Irish passes that looked a little forwards.
Who's the pillock who always says SavAYa?
and TamEYEti WilliamsRupert Cox probably. Has him on the Stan commentary. Idiot has Kal Te Nana effectively correcting him and still he keeps up the SarVayer.
On Stan if you don’t click on the first option of watch live , scroll down you get the option of nz commentary.
I only recently discovered it myself.
@kiwiinmelb said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@booboo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Wairau said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@MajorRage there were many Irish passes that looked a little forwards.
Who's the pillock who always says SavAYa?
and TamEYEti WilliamsRupert Cox probably. Has him on the Stan commentary. Idiot has Kal Te Nana effectively correcting him and still he keeps up the SarVayer.
On Stan if you don’t click on the first option of watch live , scroll down you get the option of nz commentary.
I only recently discovered it myself.
I'd rather those two than Nisbett, especially when pronunciation is involved.
I watched the full game with the RWC commentary and the highlights with the NZ commentary. After 10 minutes of the NZ I was glad I watched the full with the RWC commentary.
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@booboo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@pakman said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@scribe said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Frank said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
They backed their "cut and paste" attack to pry open the ABs defence.
That was quite the telling comment from Foz.
As if, in actual fact, they have fuck all variation, and once you figure it out, you can defend it all day.
I noticed this in my drunken haze at the ground. It was all very methodical.
Boks guy was commenting on same at pub last night, and how slow Sexton was. Perhaps after the 30th phase a pop kick might have been worth a shot? Definition of insanity and all?
They were 4 points down
Their cut and paste wasn't working. Roll the die? Pretty tame ending for them.
@pakman said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@booboo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@pakman said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@scribe said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Frank said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
They backed their "cut and paste" attack to pry open the ABs defence.
That was quite the telling comment from Foz.
As if, in actual fact, they have fuck all variation, and once you figure it out, you can defend it all day.
I noticed this in my drunken haze at the ground. It was all very methodical.
Boks guy was commenting on same at pub last night, and how slow Sexton was. Perhaps after the 30th phase a pop kick might have been worth a shot? Definition of insanity and all?
They were 4 points down
Their cut and paste wasn't working. Roll the die? Pretty tame ending for them.
You're thinking droppy earlier in the match? Thought you meant that last phase, whereupon a droppy would have lost it foe them by 1.
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@pakman said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@booboo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@pakman said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@scribe said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Frank said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
They backed their "cut and paste" attack to pry open the ABs defence.
That was quite the telling comment from Foz.
As if, in actual fact, they have fuck all variation, and once you figure it out, you can defend it all day.
I noticed this in my drunken haze at the ground. It was all very methodical.
Boks guy was commenting on same at pub last night, and how slow Sexton was. Perhaps after the 30th phase a pop kick might have been worth a shot? Definition of insanity and all?
They were 4 points down
Their cut and paste wasn't working. Roll the die? Pretty tame ending for them.
You're thinking droppy earlier in the match? Thought you meant that last phase, whereupon a droppy would have lost it foe them by 1.
@booboo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@pakman said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@booboo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@pakman said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@scribe said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Frank said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
They backed their "cut and paste" attack to pry open the ABs defence.
That was quite the telling comment from Foz.
As if, in actual fact, they have fuck all variation, and once you figure it out, you can defend it all day.
I noticed this in my drunken haze at the ground. It was all very methodical.
Boks guy was commenting on same at pub last night, and how slow Sexton was. Perhaps after the 30th phase a pop kick might have been worth a shot? Definition of insanity and all?
They were 4 points down
Their cut and paste wasn't working. Roll the die? Pretty tame ending for them.
You're thinking droppy earlier in the match? Thought you meant that last phase, whereupon a droppy would have lost it foe them by 1.
No, just think after, say, 30 phases, a chip kick would have been worth a shot. Might have even worked.
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Aside from the pronunciation of Savea I really like the World feed main commentator (Rupert Cox?). He does a great job.
@KiwiMurph said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Aside from the pronunciation of Savea I really like the World feed main commentator (Rupert Cox?). He does a great job.
Is he a Kiwi? I did hear him say on-air that he went to Auckland GS, but I won't hold that against him.
The English sideline person in the England-Fiji game really struggled to say those Fijian names.
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@MajorRage said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Watch it again and enjoy!!
No doubt the pass at 79:57 was a mile forwards too.
There were also 4 clear moments Barnes should have called it earlier. Hell, Ardie was basically inducted into the Rugby Hall of Fame he had latched onto the ball so long. All done now but damn.
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@booboo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@pakman said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@booboo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@pakman said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@scribe said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Frank said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
They backed their "cut and paste" attack to pry open the ABs defence.
That was quite the telling comment from Foz.
As if, in actual fact, they have fuck all variation, and once you figure it out, you can defend it all day.
I noticed this in my drunken haze at the ground. It was all very methodical.
Boks guy was commenting on same at pub last night, and how slow Sexton was. Perhaps after the 30th phase a pop kick might have been worth a shot? Definition of insanity and all?
They were 4 points down
Their cut and paste wasn't working. Roll the die? Pretty tame ending for them.
You're thinking droppy earlier in the match? Thought you meant that last phase, whereupon a droppy would have lost it foe them by 1.
No, just think after, say, 30 phases, a chip kick would have been worth a shot. Might have even worked.
@pakman said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@booboo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@pakman said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@booboo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@pakman said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@scribe said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Frank said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
They backed their "cut and paste" attack to pry open the ABs defence.
That was quite the telling comment from Foz.
As if, in actual fact, they have fuck all variation, and once you figure it out, you can defend it all day.
I noticed this in my drunken haze at the ground. It was all very methodical.
Boks guy was commenting on same at pub last night, and how slow Sexton was. Perhaps after the 30th phase a pop kick might have been worth a shot? Definition of insanity and all?
They were 4 points down
Their cut and paste wasn't working. Roll the die? Pretty tame ending for them.
You're thinking droppy earlier in the match? Thought you meant that last phase, whereupon a droppy would have lost it foe them by 1.
No, just think after, say, 30 phases, a chip kick would have been worth a shot. Might have even worked.
I can imagine the outcry if BB or RM did a chip kick in the same situation and it didn't come off. I can see why Ireland didn't try one.
