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RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland

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  • JayCeeJ JayCee

    @Joans-Town-Jones said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    @taniwharugby Fozzie & McLeod playing rope-a-dope?

    I actually think it somewhat was. I've mentioned it numerous times. The ABs sit back, wait for the Irish to do their move then hit. Mostly worked this time.

    https://www.rugbypass.com/news/it-wasnt-a-derogatory-comment-at-all-defence-coach-clarifies-ian-foster-comments/

    "McLeod explained how the All Blacks in fact needed to go back to the drawing board on defence after realising that their defensive systems were falling behind that of European sides.

    “After the series loss at home last year [against Ireland] which really hurt, we had to have a really good look at some fundamentals in the defensive game for the All Blacks and a big part of that was in Super Rugby in New Zealand they tend to defend the man. So, they line up on a man and they defend the man. Whereas that doesn’t work against Ireland, it doesn’t work against Italy, it doesn’t work against France and we knew we had those teams more than likely in this World Cup.

    “So, we had to develop our ability to be able to defend the ball. Wherever the ball is we had to put people in front of that."

    defensive systems were falling behind that of European sides. - love this comment especially

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    @JayCee said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    defensive systems were falling behind that of European sides. - love this comment especially

    Only took them about 6-7 years to figure it out 🙄

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      https://twitter.com/AdamCoopy/status/1713939668386062755

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        Peak cringe:

        https://twitter.com/U2/status/1713109911889236129

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        • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

          @pakman said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

          @booboo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

          @pakman said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

          @booboo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

          @pakman said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

          @scribe said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

          @Frank said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

          @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

          They backed their "cut and paste" attack to pry open the ABs defence.

          That was quite the telling comment from Foz.

          As if, in actual fact, they have fuck all variation, and once you figure it out, you can defend it all day.

          I noticed this in my drunken haze at the ground. It was all very methodical.

          Boks guy was commenting on same at pub last night, and how slow Sexton was. Perhaps after the 30th phase a pop kick might have been worth a shot? Definition of insanity and all?

          They were 4 points down

          Their cut and paste wasn't working. Roll the die? Pretty tame ending for them.

          You're thinking droppy earlier in the match? Thought you meant that last phase, whereupon a droppy would have lost it foe them by 1.

          No, just think after, say, 30 phases, a chip kick would have been worth a shot. Might have even worked.

          I can imagine the outcry if BB or RM did a chip kick in the same situation and it didn't come off. I can see why Ireland didn't try one.

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          @Crazy-Horse said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

          @pakman said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

          @booboo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

          @pakman said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

          @booboo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

          @pakman said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

          @scribe said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

          @Frank said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

          @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

          They backed their "cut and paste" attack to pry open the ABs defence.

          That was quite the telling comment from Foz.

          As if, in actual fact, they have fuck all variation, and once you figure it out, you can defend it all day.

          I noticed this in my drunken haze at the ground. It was all very methodical.

          Boks guy was commenting on same at pub last night, and how slow Sexton was. Perhaps after the 30th phase a pop kick might have been worth a shot? Definition of insanity and all?

          They were 4 points down

          Their cut and paste wasn't working. Roll the die? Pretty tame ending for them.

          You're thinking droppy earlier in the match? Thought you meant that last phase, whereupon a droppy would have lost it foe them by 1.

          No, just think after, say, 30 phases, a chip kick would have been worth a shot. Might have even worked.

          I can imagine the outcry if BB or RM did a chip kick in the same situation and it didn't come off. I can see why Ireland didn't try one.

          Completely.

          Chances of NZ conceding a penalty were much higher than the chances of a chip actually resulting in anything. I didn't believe we'd stay penalty free for so long.

          Their lineout drives were very very effective. We were like this:
          b0576fb4-68b1-46b8-8e64-c16fddce1fc0-image.png

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          • antipodeanA antipodean

            https://twitter.com/AdamCoopy/status/1713939668386062755

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            #2952

            @antipodean said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

            https://twitter.com/AdamCoopy/status/1713939668386062755

            inject that directly in to my veins. Arrogant irishmen who don't look like they have ever pulled on a pair of boots in their life talking absolute shit. Fuck where's the follow up

            What the fuck is a "rucker"?

            that pencil-necked fuck wasn't even a live when rucking was a thing.

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            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

              @antipodean said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

              https://twitter.com/AdamCoopy/status/1713939668386062755

              inject that directly in to my veins. Arrogant irishmen who don't look like they have ever pulled on a pair of boots in their life talking absolute shit. Fuck where's the follow up

              What the fuck is a "rucker"?

              that pencil-necked fuck wasn't even a live when rucking was a thing.

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              @mariner4life said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

              that pencil-necked fuck wasn't even a live when rucking was a thing.

              and here I was trying to think of an appropriate response after watching that, and this just appeared right there.

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              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                @antipodean said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                https://twitter.com/AdamCoopy/status/1713939668386062755

                inject that directly in to my veins. Arrogant irishmen who don't look like they have ever pulled on a pair of boots in their life talking absolute shit. Fuck where's the follow up

                What the fuck is a "rucker"?

                that pencil-necked fuck wasn't even a live when rucking was a thing.

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                @mariner4life said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                @antipodean said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                https://twitter.com/AdamCoopy/status/1713939668386062755

                inject that directly in to my veins. Arrogant irishmen who don't look like they have ever pulled on a pair of boots in their life talking absolute shit. Fuck where's the follow up

                What the fuck is a "rucker"?

                that pencil-necked fuck wasn't even a live when rucking was a thing.

                Swoop is a dead set legend. GBRA is pretty good.

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                  According to Rugby Onslaught...
                  https://rugbyonslaught.com/what-ioane-and-retallick-actually-said-to-irish-players/?fbclid=IwAR1VpIRLUHD-U2jX3whPhFrnCyKC_uFfx9j47DUBKqZikmbJ2iEGiYgXwpU

                  What we understand Ioane said to Sexton was something along the lines of: “Enjoy retirement and don’t miss the flight home”.

                  Brodie Retallick got one back on Irish back row Peter O’Mahony, allegedly telling him: “Oi Peter, four more years you ****wit”.

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                  • gt12G gt12

                    According to Rugby Onslaught...
                    https://rugbyonslaught.com/what-ioane-and-retallick-actually-said-to-irish-players/?fbclid=IwAR1VpIRLUHD-U2jX3whPhFrnCyKC_uFfx9j47DUBKqZikmbJ2iEGiYgXwpU

                    What we understand Ioane said to Sexton was something along the lines of: “Enjoy retirement and don’t miss the flight home”.

                    Brodie Retallick got one back on Irish back row Peter O’Mahony, allegedly telling him: “Oi Peter, four more years you ****wit”.

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                    @gt12 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                    According to Rugby Onslaught...
                    https://rugbyonslaught.com/what-ioane-and-retallick-actually-said-to-irish-players/?fbclid=IwAR1VpIRLUHD-U2jX3whPhFrnCyKC_uFfx9j47DUBKqZikmbJ2iEGiYgXwpU

                    What we understand Ioane said to Sexton was something along the lines of: “Enjoy retirement and don’t miss the flight home”.

                    Brodie Retallick got one back on Irish back row Peter O’Mahony, allegedly telling him: “Oi Peter, four more years you ****wit”.

                    Awesome

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                    • gt12G gt12

                      According to Rugby Onslaught...
                      https://rugbyonslaught.com/what-ioane-and-retallick-actually-said-to-irish-players/?fbclid=IwAR1VpIRLUHD-U2jX3whPhFrnCyKC_uFfx9j47DUBKqZikmbJ2iEGiYgXwpU

                      What we understand Ioane said to Sexton was something along the lines of: “Enjoy retirement and don’t miss the flight home”.

                      Brodie Retallick got one back on Irish back row Peter O’Mahony, allegedly telling him: “Oi Peter, four more years you ****wit”.

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                      @gt12 seems plenty of Irish media have short memories, POM was being lauded for his sledge on Cane and even something he said to one of the Scots after thier pool match...

                      There is banter, which I am fine with and if the above was what happened, all good

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                      • gt12G gt12

                        According to Rugby Onslaught...
                        https://rugbyonslaught.com/what-ioane-and-retallick-actually-said-to-irish-players/?fbclid=IwAR1VpIRLUHD-U2jX3whPhFrnCyKC_uFfx9j47DUBKqZikmbJ2iEGiYgXwpU

                        What we understand Ioane said to Sexton was something along the lines of: “Enjoy retirement and don’t miss the flight home”.

                        Brodie Retallick got one back on Irish back row Peter O’Mahony, allegedly telling him: “Oi Peter, four more years you ****wit”.

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                        #2958

                        @gt12 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                        According to Rugby Onslaught...
                        https://rugbyonslaught.com/what-ioane-and-retallick-actually-said-to-irish-players/?fbclid=IwAR1VpIRLUHD-U2jX3whPhFrnCyKC_uFfx9j47DUBKqZikmbJ2iEGiYgXwpU

                        What we understand Ioane said to Sexton was something along the lines of: “Enjoy retirement and don’t miss the flight home”.

                        Brodie Retallick got one back on Irish back row Peter O’Mahony, allegedly telling him: “Oi Peter, four more years you ****wit”.

                        I think that info is from a screenshot from a Whatsapp exchange between Cane and a friend. Seems unlikely that a mate of Canes would screenshot their exchange and share it around.

                        But it would also be unlikely that a rugby team would snort drugs off the ranfurly shield, snap it in two and then share it on social media. So who knows

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                          According to the Roar:

                          O’Mahony was later asked to give his own reaction to the incident last year, which came after Ireland sealed a historic come-from-behind series win over the All Blacks in New Zealand, but bluntly said it was a “bullshit question”.

                          https://www.theroar.com.au/2023/10/15/not-so-s-t-now-peter-all-blacks-skippers-sweet-revenge-after-irish-greats-brutal-sledge-backfires/

                          Don't give it if you can't take it mate.

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                          • gt12G gt12

                            According to the Roar:

                            O’Mahony was later asked to give his own reaction to the incident last year, which came after Ireland sealed a historic come-from-behind series win over the All Blacks in New Zealand, but bluntly said it was a “bullshit question”.

                            https://www.theroar.com.au/2023/10/15/not-so-s-t-now-peter-all-blacks-skippers-sweet-revenge-after-irish-greats-brutal-sledge-backfires/

                            Don't give it if you can't take it mate.

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                            @gt12 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                            According to the Roar:

                            O’Mahony was later asked to give his own reaction to the incident last year, which came after Ireland sealed a historic come-from-behind series win over the All Blacks in New Zealand, but bluntly said it was a “bullshit question”.

                            https://www.theroar.com.au/2023/10/15/not-so-s-t-now-peter-all-blacks-skippers-sweet-revenge-after-irish-greats-brutal-sledge-backfires/

                            Don't give it if you can't take it mate.

                            Bunch of fucken sooks. Didn't hear the ABs wailing when we lost that series. Or the Lions series. Or the 2007 RWC QF. Fucken sooks

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                              @Wairau said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                              @MajorRage there were many Irish passes that looked a little forwards.
                              Who's the pillock who always says SavAYa?
                              and TamEYEti Williams

                              Rupert Cox probably. Has him on the Stan commentary. Idiot has Kal Te Nana effectively correcting him and still he keeps up the SarVayer.

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                              @booboo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                              @Wairau said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                              @MajorRage there were many Irish passes that looked a little forwards.
                              Who's the pillock who always says SavAYa?
                              and TamEYEti Williams

                              Rupert Cox probably. Has him on the Stan commentary. Idiot has Kal Te Nana effectively correcting him and still he keeps up the SarVayer.

                              I don’t mind the RWC commentary team. They are pretty fair. KT overplayed the whole “no one gave NZ a chance” line.

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                              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                @JayCee was a ruck about phase 14, BR was over the ball, should have ended there, Barnes called away and BR quickly pulled away, so often players keep going when they have won it...the discipline in those 30 odd phases was something rarely seen by this AB side.

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                                @taniwharugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                @JayCee was a ruck about phase 14, BR was over the ball, should have ended there, Barnes called away and BR quickly pulled away, so often players keep going when they have won it...the discipline in those 30 odd phases was something rarely seen by this AB side.

                                I think a couple of those ruck no calls were marginal

                                Retallick over the ball - he was quick to call no hands
                                Ardie over the ball - did Ardie fully detach as the tackler?
                                T. Williams offside - close but pulled away after one extra long go at it.
                                Ioane neck roll - looked to have started around the shoulders and then go higher

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                                    i've seen another angle of the Ioane/Sexton "incident" and that makes it look for all money like the first words come from the guy in green (when Iaone had moved on to shake the next guys hand), Ioane chirps back, and Sexton blows up.

                                    It's all dumb shit and i wish people would stop talking about it

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                                      @gt12 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                      He did a good job. I will say that the difference between Nuggy and almost any other scrumhalf is noticeable in terms of speed of pass, but holy shit even Richie's passing from the base looked disabled senior citizen in comparison.

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                                      • gt12G gt12

                                        According to the Roar:

                                        O’Mahony was later asked to give his own reaction to the incident last year, which came after Ireland sealed a historic come-from-behind series win over the All Blacks in New Zealand, but bluntly said it was a “bullshit question”.

                                        https://www.theroar.com.au/2023/10/15/not-so-s-t-now-peter-all-blacks-skippers-sweet-revenge-after-irish-greats-brutal-sledge-backfires/

                                        Don't give it if you can't take it mate.

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                                        @gt12 don’t agree there.

                                        POM is correct it’s a bullshit question. Cane got his revenge, not up to reporters to ask about a sledge delivered at an appropriate time years ago!

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                                        • WairauW Wairau

                                          @MajorRage there were many Irish passes that looked a little forwards.
                                          Who's the pillock who always says SavAYa?
                                          and TamEYEti Williams

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                                          @Wairau said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                          Who's the pillock who always says SavAYa?
                                          and TamEYEti Williams

                                          Be thankful you don't have itv. Actually I drunkenly tweeted them to ask if it would be too hard to talk to the teams before a game about pronunciation. No response.

                                          Fyangaranooka had a great game for a guy I've never heard of.

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