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RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina

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  • sparkyS sparky

    @Rancid-Schnitzel I suspect the Argentinians will take enormous confidence from the heroics of their soccer. Everyone is writing them off, but they will be full of passion and belief tomorrow night.

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    @sparky said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel I suspect the Argentinians will take enormous confidence from the heroics of their soccer. Everyone is writing them off, but they will be full of passion and belief tomorrow night.

    Enormous confidence? I'm not sure about that.

    But don't get me wrong, I'll be a nervous wreck until (hopefully 🙏) the game is in the bag.

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    • BonesB Bones

      @Winger said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

      @stodders

      Christie again

      FFS. Let's hope Smith stays on for the full 80 minutes again.
      (unless the AB's have a big lead with say 20 10 5 minutes left).

      As we found out last week, we're better off just sending Aaron to stand behind the try line for 5 minutes either side of halftime and play with 14.

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      @Bones said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

      @Winger said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

      @stodders

      Christie again

      FFS. Let's hope Smith stays on for the full 80 minutes again.
      (unless the AB's have a big lead with say 20 10 5 minutes left).

      As we found out last week, we're better off just sending Aaron to stand behind the try line for 5 minutes either side of halftime and play with 14.

      with at most 2 more games in the black jersey...good bloody luck getting him off the field i would say

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      • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

        @Bones said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

        @Winger said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

        @stodders

        Christie again

        FFS. Let's hope Smith stays on for the full 80 minutes again.
        (unless the AB's have a big lead with say 20 10 5 minutes left).

        As we found out last week, we're better off just sending Aaron to stand behind the try line for 5 minutes either side of halftime and play with 14.

        with at most 2 more games in the black jersey...good bloody luck getting him off the field i would say

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        @Kiwiwomble said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

        @Bones said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

        @Winger said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

        @stodders

        Christie again

        FFS. Let's hope Smith stays on for the full 80 minutes again.
        (unless the AB's have a big lead with say 20 10 5 minutes left).

        As we found out last week, we're better off just sending Aaron to stand behind the try line for 5 minutes either side of halftime and play with 14.

        with at most 2 more games in the black jersey...good bloody luck getting him off the field i would say

        I'm hoping the try line is on the field this week.

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        • sparkyS sparky

          Exhibit B of what can go horribly wrong in a World Cup Semi Final.

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          @sparky said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

          Exhibit B of what can go horribly wrong in a World Cup Semi Final.

          You forgot to attach Annexure A to Exhibit B that says that match was against the defending RWC champs with a team littered with world class players....

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          • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

            @sparky said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

            Exhibit B of what can go horribly wrong in a World Cup Semi Final.

            You forgot to attach Annexure A to Exhibit B that says that match was against the defending RWC champs with a team littered with world class players....

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            @ACT-Crusader said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

            @sparky said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

            Exhibit B of what can go horribly wrong in a World Cup Semi Final.

            You forgot to attach Annexure A to Exhibit B that says that match was against the defending RWC champs with a team littered with world class players....

            banana yellow jerseys though....

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            • M Machpants

              Rainy weather for last two weekends, more scrums, which will pressure the pumas

              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/paris-weather-rain-expected-for-all-blacks-v-argentina-semifinal-but-neither-team-seem-concerned/CH4MZZ7PGNBIXA3PLB7N777APU/

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              @Machpants said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

              Rainy weather for last two weekends, more scrums, which will pressure the pumas

              But...if we make the final, help the Boks, as I view their scrum as a little better than ours.

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                If we can get through the 80 with no cards - so no absorbing tackles, no instinctively putting your hand up in the passing corridor, no hanging on to the maul when you've lost your footing, no leaving the ground on a contested kick unless you know you're a chance - we will be in a great position to win this thing.

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                  Not too cold tomorrow night in Paris, but it is likely to be windy and wet. The Wellington boys will feel like they’re at home.

                  https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/forecast/u09tvnxyj#?date=2023-10-20

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                  • sparkyS sparky

                    Your reminder that the All Blacks have lost four World Cup Semi Finals.

                    They’ve lost twice to Argentina in this World Cup cycle.

                    Argentina won the Football World Cup last year after losing their opening game.

                    Everyone is writing off Argentina. They will feel it is them against the world.

                    For me, Friday night is a massive banana skin.

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                    @sparky of those 4 semi losses, only 1 team that beat us is left...

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                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                      @ACT-Crusader said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                      @Bovidae said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                      The ABs need to attack the Arg scrum and get some easy penalties.

                      I think there is a real opportunity there. It certainly made a difference in the QF, not only the field position but the confidence to the pack.

                      It's just as much about the Arg scrum not being very good. They have been under pressure in most games in the RWC. We just have to hope there are a few of them (only 5 vs Ireland).

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                      @Bovidae said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                      @ACT-Crusader said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                      @Bovidae said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                      The ABs need to attack the Arg scrum and get some easy penalties.

                      I think there is a real opportunity there. It certainly made a difference in the QF, not only the field position but the confidence to the pack.

                      It's just as much about the Arg scrum not being very good. They have been under pressure in most games in the RWC. We just have to hope there are a few of them (only 5 vs Ireland).

                      Used to be their pride and joy

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                      • sparkyS sparky

                        @mariner4life

                        Call it what you like. The betting markets are saying the All Blacks are 1/12 on to make the final. All the pundits are saying we are going to make the final.

                        I’d say there’s an enormous air of complacency around this Semi Final. We’ve been here before and we know where it ends up. Respect your opponent or end up on your arse.

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                        @sparky said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                        @mariner4life

                        Call it what you like. The betting markets are saying the All Blacks are 1/12 on to make the final. All the pundits are saying we are going to make the final.

                        I’d say there’s an enormous air of complacency around this Semi Final. We’ve been here before and we know where it ends up. Respect your opponent or end up on your arse.

                        Have the AB’s indicated they don’t rate/respect the Pumas’s? Or is it AB fans?

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                        • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                          If we can get through the 80 with no cards - so no absorbing tackles, no instinctively putting your hand up in the passing corridor, no hanging on to the maul when you've lost your footing, no leaving the ground on a contested kick unless you know you're a chance - we will be in a great position to win this thing.

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                          @ACT-Crusader The All Blacks lineout is the absolute key for me. It’s been rock solid in recent tests. If Argentina can disrupt it they’ll think they have a chance.

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                          • allblacksfan2A allblacksfan2

                            @sparky said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                            @mariner4life

                            Call it what you like. The betting markets are saying the All Blacks are 1/12 on to make the final. All the pundits are saying we are going to make the final.

                            I’d say there’s an enormous air of complacency around this Semi Final. We’ve been here before and we know where it ends up. Respect your opponent or end up on your arse.

                            Have the AB’s indicated they don’t rate/respect the Pumas’s? Or is it AB fans?

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                            @allblackfan2

                            Media, some fans.

                            This ABs camp seem wiser than that.

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                            • sparkyS sparky

                              @ACT-Crusader The All Blacks lineout is the absolute key for me. It’s been rock solid in recent tests. If Argentina can disrupt it they’ll think they have a chance.

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                              @sparky hopefully in his downtime, Samisoni has been practising his throwing.

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                              • sparkyS sparky

                                @ACT-Crusader The All Blacks lineout is the absolute key for me. It’s been rock solid in recent tests. If Argentina can disrupt it they’ll think they have a chance.

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                                @sparky said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                                If Argentina can disrupt it they’ll think they have a chance.

                                They're not exactly renowned for being lineout disrupters are they?

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                                  And Scott Barrett his kickoff receptions. Yes, I've seen the clips of the Chch test again.

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                                  • BonesB Bones

                                    @sparky said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                                    If Argentina can disrupt it they’ll think they have a chance.

                                    They're not exactly renowned for being lineout disrupters are they?

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                                    @Bones Fair comment, although they did well there against England last year.

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                                    • voodooV voodoo

                                      @ACT-Crusader said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                                      @voodoo said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                                      Can someone whack together a combined All Blacks / Pumas XV please?

                                      I wouldn’t pick one Puma in a combined team…

                                      there's my boy

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                                      @voodoo said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                                      @ACT-Crusader said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                                      @voodoo said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                                      Can someone whack together a combined All Blacks / Pumas XV please?

                                      I wouldn’t pick one Puma in a combined team…

                                      there's my boy

                                      Montoya ?

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                                        Argentina can win:

                                        1. Disrupt the All Blacks lineout.
                                        2. Compete at every breakdown. Exert control there.
                                        3. Ruthlessly exploit any AB ill discipline. Kick all their goals.
                                        4. Read the NZ overloads and long passes. Look for intercepts.
                                        5. Charge their big ball of muscles at the weaker AB defenders e.g Mo’unga and Jordan.
                                        6. Stay calm and execute brilliantly in the last ten minutes.
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                                          So much cliché and yet you didn't even say "score more points than the opposition".

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