RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina
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@Bones said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@Winger said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
Christie again
FFS. Let's hope Smith stays on for the full 80 minutes again.
(unless the AB's have a big lead with say20105 minutes left).As we found out last week, we're better off just sending Aaron to stand behind the try line for 5 minutes either side of halftime and play with 14.
with at most 2 more games in the black jersey...good bloody luck getting him off the field i would say
@Kiwiwomble said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@Bones said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@Winger said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
Christie again
FFS. Let's hope Smith stays on for the full 80 minutes again.
(unless the AB's have a big lead with say20105 minutes left).As we found out last week, we're better off just sending Aaron to stand behind the try line for 5 minutes either side of halftime and play with 14.
with at most 2 more games in the black jersey...good bloody luck getting him off the field i would say
I'm hoping the try line is on the field this week.
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@sparky said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
Exhibit B of what can go horribly wrong in a World Cup Semi Final.
You forgot to attach Annexure A to Exhibit B that says that match was against the defending RWC champs with a team littered with world class players....
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@sparky said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
Exhibit B of what can go horribly wrong in a World Cup Semi Final.
You forgot to attach Annexure A to Exhibit B that says that match was against the defending RWC champs with a team littered with world class players....
@ACT-Crusader said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@sparky said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
Exhibit B of what can go horribly wrong in a World Cup Semi Final.
You forgot to attach Annexure A to Exhibit B that says that match was against the defending RWC champs with a team littered with world class players....
banana yellow jerseys though....
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Rainy weather for last two weekends, more scrums, which will pressure the pumas
@Machpants said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
Rainy weather for last two weekends, more scrums, which will pressure the pumas
But...if we make the final, help the Boks, as I view their scrum as a little better than ours.
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If we can get through the 80 with no cards - so no absorbing tackles, no instinctively putting your hand up in the passing corridor, no hanging on to the maul when you've lost your footing, no leaving the ground on a contested kick unless you know you're a chance - we will be in a great position to win this thing.
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Your reminder that the All Blacks have lost four World Cup Semi Finals.
They’ve lost twice to Argentina in this World Cup cycle.
Argentina won the Football World Cup last year after losing their opening game.
Everyone is writing off Argentina. They will feel it is them against the world.
For me, Friday night is a massive banana skin.
@sparky of those 4 semi losses, only 1 team that beat us is left...
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@ACT-Crusader said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@Bovidae said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
The ABs need to attack the Arg scrum and get some easy penalties.
I think there is a real opportunity there. It certainly made a difference in the QF, not only the field position but the confidence to the pack.
It's just as much about the Arg scrum not being very good. They have been under pressure in most games in the RWC. We just have to hope there are a few of them (only 5 vs Ireland).
@Bovidae said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@ACT-Crusader said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@Bovidae said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
The ABs need to attack the Arg scrum and get some easy penalties.
I think there is a real opportunity there. It certainly made a difference in the QF, not only the field position but the confidence to the pack.
It's just as much about the Arg scrum not being very good. They have been under pressure in most games in the RWC. We just have to hope there are a few of them (only 5 vs Ireland).
Used to be their pride and joy
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Call it what you like. The betting markets are saying the All Blacks are 1/12 on to make the final. All the pundits are saying we are going to make the final.
I’d say there’s an enormous air of complacency around this Semi Final. We’ve been here before and we know where it ends up. Respect your opponent or end up on your arse.
@sparky said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
Call it what you like. The betting markets are saying the All Blacks are 1/12 on to make the final. All the pundits are saying we are going to make the final.
I’d say there’s an enormous air of complacency around this Semi Final. We’ve been here before and we know where it ends up. Respect your opponent or end up on your arse.
Have the AB’s indicated they don’t rate/respect the Pumas’s? Or is it AB fans?
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If we can get through the 80 with no cards - so no absorbing tackles, no instinctively putting your hand up in the passing corridor, no hanging on to the maul when you've lost your footing, no leaving the ground on a contested kick unless you know you're a chance - we will be in a great position to win this thing.
@ACT-Crusader The All Blacks lineout is the absolute key for me. It’s been rock solid in recent tests. If Argentina can disrupt it they’ll think they have a chance.
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@sparky said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
Call it what you like. The betting markets are saying the All Blacks are 1/12 on to make the final. All the pundits are saying we are going to make the final.
I’d say there’s an enormous air of complacency around this Semi Final. We’ve been here before and we know where it ends up. Respect your opponent or end up on your arse.
Have the AB’s indicated they don’t rate/respect the Pumas’s? Or is it AB fans?
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@ACT-Crusader The All Blacks lineout is the absolute key for me. It’s been rock solid in recent tests. If Argentina can disrupt it they’ll think they have a chance.
@sparky hopefully in his downtime, Samisoni has been practising his throwing.
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@ACT-Crusader The All Blacks lineout is the absolute key for me. It’s been rock solid in recent tests. If Argentina can disrupt it they’ll think they have a chance.
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@sparky said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
If Argentina can disrupt it they’ll think they have a chance.
They're not exactly renowned for being lineout disrupters are they?
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@ACT-Crusader said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@voodoo said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
Can someone whack together a combined All Blacks / Pumas XV please?
I wouldn’t pick one Puma in a combined team…
there's my boy
@voodoo said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@ACT-Crusader said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@voodoo said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
Can someone whack together a combined All Blacks / Pumas XV please?
I wouldn’t pick one Puma in a combined team…
there's my boy
Montoya ?
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Argentina can win:
- Disrupt the All Blacks lineout.
- Compete at every breakdown. Exert control there.
- Ruthlessly exploit any AB ill discipline. Kick all their goals.
- Read the NZ overloads and long passes. Look for intercepts.
- Charge their big ball of muscles at the weaker AB defenders e.g Mo’unga and Jordan.
- Stay calm and execute brilliantly in the last ten minutes.
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@No-Quarter said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
For all the talk of the ABs legacy, the nature of the game today is that the RWC trumps all. You even get bonus ranking points during it.
Make no mistake, Ireland crashing out of the quarters has seriously undermined the legacy of that team, rightly or wrongly. They will only be remembered for crashing out in the quarters, not what they did leading up to it. Just like our 07 ABs.
So, it seems to me that our coaches have been targeting three specific games for a long time now. SA smacking us in a warm up game, as much as that sucked, will mean jack diddly squat if we win the whole thing. All of the talk will be about how great the ABs are at RWCs.
Yes we have a proud history where we have gone all out to win every single game we play. But in the professional era, with teams like France and Ireland really stepping up, it's just not possible to blow all and sundry away every time anymore. Hence the focus on winning the games that really matter.
We've joked about dry powder before, but in this instance that's exactly what we had. We figured out how to combat the Irish style of play, but gave them no indication at all beforehand that we had. We kept our cards close to our chest, and unveiled a new defensive system that they had no answers for in the end.
@Chris-B had been alluding to this for a while, and I think he's right, all of our planning for the last 2 years have centered around these three games.
And despite all that, we've still won every trophy on offer this year.
I get that. You arsehole millennials
know nothing of the pre-RWC era. I understand that the RWC is considered the pinnacle, like the Olympics, but it's just wrong IMHO that going out earlier than hoped lessens the achievements of the previous 3 years (the Irish now and us from 1991-2011). On the other side, I don't feel that RWC success makes up for 3 years of dross.To each their own I guess and that win was absolutely glorious. But does it balance out the previous 3 years? Many appear to say yes and that's fair enough. I beg to differ.
And Foster is fat.
And Jordie should have been 12 long ago.
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
And Jordie should have been 12 long ago.
Anyone know how many Super Rugby Games Jordie has started at 12 before Foster put him there?
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
And Jordie should have been 12 long ago.
Anyone know how many Super Rugby Games Jordie has started at 12 before Foster put him there?
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
And Jordie should have been 12 long ago.
Anyone know how many Super Rugby Games Jordie has started at 12 before Foster put him there?
Maybe in the same region as Telea, Rieko and Jordan in their positions?
