Aaron Smith
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@sparky said in Aaron Smith:
@Duluth He’s been a great All Black and first choice Half Back from 2012 to 2023.
The only bad game I can recall was against England in 2012 when we lost and he was really under the pump.
On the other hand, I have a theory that maybe that game stuck to him and he was damn well not going to have another one like that again
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@Victor-Meldrew he was poor for a period After-David too?
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@nzzp 9's who run alot are usually doing so because they lack confidence in their pass - many run when the pass would be off their weaker hand. You can even see this at international level.
Smith doesn't have this problem so when he runs he is more likely to catch the opposition unaware. -
@kidcalder i also think there is a bit of "why run when DC, nonu, smith etc" our outside me
he also ran more for the Highlanders, providing a bit of a spark that might not have been there
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@Kiwiwomble said in Aaron Smith:
i also think there is a bit of "why run when DC, nonu, smith etc" our outside me
You run to keep defenses honest. It creates space out wide if you have to protect the inside channel from a running 9. Honestly, don't over do it, but the odd run keeps the defence uncertain where the attack will come from.
Christie didn't run much - often for the Blues would be running across a big gap just focussed on who he'll hit with the pass. Point is, occasional sniping is gold - and SMith is brilliant at it
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@KiwiMurph sad and surprising he has never even been nominated as world rugby player of the year
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@KiwiMurph said in Aaron Smith:
I feel as if Aaron Smith is taken for granted. His absence will be felt greatly.
I dunno, all year people have said if lose him, we are fucked, he is an integral part of the way we play at pace.
I mean go back to the OP from me in 2021, even then we lamented the lack of back up to him, we have a few players we have been fortunate how durable they have been over thier careers, cos without them, the drop off was huge.
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@KiwiMurph said in Aaron Smith:
I feel as if Aaron Smith is taken for granted. His absence will be felt greatly.
The term All Black great is thrown around all too regularly but for Aaron Smith the term truly applies.
what? by who?
He's always first on the "who can we least afford to lose" poll. Frankly we're fucked if he goes down. And next year will be very interesting without him organising his forward pack.
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@mariner4life said in Aaron Smith:
@KiwiMurph said in Aaron Smith:
I feel as if Aaron Smith is taken for granted. His absence will be felt greatly.
The term All Black great is thrown around all too regularly but for Aaron Smith the term truly applies.
what? by who?
He's always first on the "who can we least afford to lose" poll. Frankly we're fucked if he goes down. And next year will be very interesting without him organising his forward pack.
I didn't word that very well.
What I meant was that as great as we consider him now - in time I think his standing will actually improve. After a decade plus of him as the starting 9 it's going to really hit home when he's not there - it's one thing to say we are fucked without Smith it's another to see how it looks without him there - future 9s are going to be compared with Smith etc.
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"you're just a shit Aaron Smith"
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@KiwiMurph said in Aaron Smith:
@mariner4life said in Aaron Smith:
@KiwiMurph said in Aaron Smith:
I feel as if Aaron Smith is taken for granted. His absence will be felt greatly.
The term All Black great is thrown around all too regularly but for Aaron Smith the term truly applies.
what? by who?
He's always first on the "who can we least afford to lose" poll. Frankly we're fucked if he goes down. And next year will be very interesting without him organising his forward pack.
I didn't word that very well.
What I meant was that as great as we consider him now - in time I think his standing will actually improve. After a decade plus of him as the starting 9 it's going to really hit home when he's not there - it's one thing to say we are fucked without Smith it's another to see how it looks without him there - future 9s are going to be compared with Smith etc.
i think i know what you mean, kind of to my point BB has won world player of the year twice and nominated another time and as i said nuggie hasn;t even got a nomination...so there are definitely corners of society where he is severely underrated, if i cold only have one of the two i would take Smith
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The other obvious thing about Smith is his longevity. Every time people (including myself) suggested he might be slipping away, he has found another gear. He's been consistent in black for 12 years, and has largely been the best in the world in that time. Look at de Klerk, Murray, Youngs etc. plenty of halfbacks have come and gone in the time he has reigned supreme.
Dupont is obviously the #1 now, but Smith is not as far off as some would have you believe. His pass is unmatched.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Aaron Smith:
@taniwharugby said in Aaron Smith:
After-David
Que?
Afterdavided: When Kiwis' English fails them
Words and phrases Kiwis in the public eye have made epic blunders of.
