All Blacks 2023
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@frugby said in All Blacks 2023:
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2023:
@Stag said in All Blacks 2023:
Does it mean that we have actually have had the cattle for the last 4 years, but the coaching hasn’t been up to it until the last 6 weeks?
In fairness, since Ryan and Schmidt took real power, barring that loss to Argentina at home, which even then was only just after they'd come in, we've been good results wise.
Apart from the record loss to SA, our worst loss ever
I mean sure, but that was a warmup game. It was a pure cash grab where neither side was seriously trying anything too dramatic.
Fuck that attitude, it was a test match versus the boks
@Machpants Which no one will remember if we get over the line next week.
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Random thought: 3 of the most contentious tactics of the Fozz era for me, the helter skelter lack of pattern, the cross kicks from everywhere, and spinning it wide way too early have all but been removed from our game plan. So any talk of the last 4 years being all about a planned tactical refinement at the expense of results is probably a bit generous
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@tubbyj said in All Blacks 2023:
Me too I won't forget that record loss to the boks and neither will they or their fans
had you remembed the previous record loss?
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@tubbyj said in All Blacks 2023:
Me too I won't forget that record loss to the boks and neither will they or their fans
had you remembed the previous record loss?
@ploughboy said in All Blacks 2023:
@tubbyj said in All Blacks 2023:
Me too I won't forget that record loss to the boks and neither will they or their fans
had you remembed the previous record loss?
Yes another that foster was involved in versus Oz in Perth 2019. Same as the previous amount, 21, versus wallabies in 99
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@ploughboy said in All Blacks 2023:
@tubbyj said in All Blacks 2023:
Me too I won't forget that record loss to the boks and neither will they or their fans
had you remembed the previous record loss?
Yes another that foster was involved in versus Oz in Perth 2019. Same as the previous amount, 21, versus wallabies in 99
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:
@ploughboy said in All Blacks 2023:
@tubbyj said in All Blacks 2023:
Me too I won't forget that record loss to the boks and neither will they or their fans
had you remembed the previous record loss?
Yes another that foster was involved in versus Oz in Perth 2019. Same as the previous amount, 21, versus wallabies in 99
Did Scott Barrett get red carded in both of those?
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Random thought: 3 of the most contentious tactics of the Fozz era for me, the helter skelter lack of pattern, the cross kicks from everywhere, and spinning it wide way too early have all but been removed from our game plan. So any talk of the last 4 years being all about a planned tactical refinement at the expense of results is probably a bit generous
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@tubbyj said in All Blacks 2023:
Me too I won't forget that record loss to the boks and neither will they or their fans
had you remembed the previous record loss?
@ploughboy said in All Blacks 2023:
@tubbyj said in All Blacks 2023:
Me too I won't forget that record loss to the boks and neither will they or their fans
had you remembed the previous record loss?
I did
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@Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:
@ploughboy said in All Blacks 2023:
@tubbyj said in All Blacks 2023:
Me too I won't forget that record loss to the boks and neither will they or their fans
had you remembed the previous record loss?
Yes another that foster was involved in versus Oz in Perth 2019. Same as the previous amount, 21, versus wallabies in 99
Did Scott Barrett get red carded in both of those?
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:
@ploughboy said in All Blacks 2023:
@tubbyj said in All Blacks 2023:
Me too I won't forget that record loss to the boks and neither will they or their fans
had you remembed the previous record loss?
Yes another that foster was involved in versus Oz in Perth 2019. Same as the previous amount, 21, versus wallabies in 99
Did Scott Barrett get red carded in both of those?
Yup, man's a slow learner
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2023:
cross kicks from everywhere
Conspicuous by their absence this morning ...
@booboo said in All Blacks 2023:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2023:
cross kicks from everywhere
Conspicuous by their absence this morning ...
JB attempted one. And it was an attacking one
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@booboo said in All Blacks 2023:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2023:
cross kicks from everywhere
Conspicuous by their absence this morning ...
JB attempted one. And it was an attacking one
@canefan said in All Blacks 2023:
@booboo said in All Blacks 2023:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2023:
cross kicks from everywhere
Conspicuous by their absence this morning ...
JB attempted one. And it was an attacking one
So did Mounga.
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Wonder what input Wayne Smith has had on the team, did he give McLeod some advice?
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2023:
So how many of this squad either will play thier last game in black, or already have?
Coles, Whitelock, Retallick, Frizzel, Smith, Mounga, Beaudie...
Sure some may come back, but too often that never works.
Yeah, it's going to be really weird seeing the ABs without Whitelock, Retallick, Smith and BB.
I hate this part of the cycle. 4 guys all in the conversation for all-time AB 23s all going.
Fuuuck I hope they go out like the 2015 guys. But not everyone gets a fairytale.Sobs
As long as they don't believe they deserve a fairy tale ending, then they're in with a pretty good chance
Somehow I think, looking at body language, that thought isn't in anyone's heads
It was a dig at sexcovkwomble saying a quarter final exit is not what he deserved
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2023:
So how many of this squad either will play thier last game in black, or already have?
Coles, Whitelock, Retallick, Frizzel, Smith, Mounga, Beaudie...
Sure some may come back, but too often that never works.
Yeah, it's going to be really weird seeing the ABs without Whitelock, Retallick, Smith and BB.
I hate this part of the cycle. 4 guys all in the conversation for all-time AB 23s all going.
Fuuuck I hope they go out like the 2015 guys. But not everyone gets a fairytale.Sobs
As long as they don't believe they deserve a fairy tale ending, then they're in with a pretty good chance
Somehow I think, looking at body language, that thought isn't in anyone's heads
It was a dig at sexcovkwomble saying a quarter final exit is not what he deserved
Fuck no way! He actually said that?
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@frugby said in All Blacks 2023:
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2023:
@Stag said in All Blacks 2023:
Does it mean that we have actually have had the cattle for the last 4 years, but the coaching hasn’t been up to it until the last 6 weeks?
In fairness, since Ryan and Schmidt took real power, barring that loss to Argentina at home, which even then was only just after they'd come in, we've been good results wise.
Apart from the record loss to SA, our worst loss ever
I mean sure, but that was a warmup game. It was a pure cash grab where neither side was seriously trying anything too dramatic.
Fuck that attitude, it was a test match versus the boks
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2023:
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2023:
@Stag said in All Blacks 2023:
Does it mean that we have actually have had the cattle for the last 4 years, but the coaching hasn’t been up to it until the last 6 weeks?
In fairness, since Ryan and Schmidt took real power, barring that loss to Argentina at home, which even then was only just after they'd come in, we've been good results wise.
Apart from the record loss to SA, our worst loss ever
I mean sure, but that was a warmup game. It was a pure cash grab where neither side was seriously trying anything too dramatic.
Fuck that attitude, it was a test match versus the boks
That's typically my attitude, but I was there and it was clear it was as close to a friendly as you can get. Almost felt like being at the 7s - just a bit of fun on and off the field. I keep forgetting it happened.
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@Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2023:
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2023:
@Stag said in All Blacks 2023:
Does it mean that we have actually have had the cattle for the last 4 years, but the coaching hasn’t been up to it until the last 6 weeks?
In fairness, since Ryan and Schmidt took real power, barring that loss to Argentina at home, which even then was only just after they'd come in, we've been good results wise.
Apart from the record loss to SA, our worst loss ever
I mean sure, but that was a warmup game. It was a pure cash grab where neither side was seriously trying anything too dramatic.
Fuck that attitude, it was a test match versus the boks
That's typically my attitude, but I was there and it was clear it was as close to a friendly as you can get. Almost felt like being at the 7s - just a bit of fun on and off the field. I keep forgetting it happened.
@Bones said in All Blacks 2023:
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2023:
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2023:
@Stag said in All Blacks 2023:
Does it mean that we have actually have had the cattle for the last 4 years, but the coaching hasn’t been up to it until the last 6 weeks?
In fairness, since Ryan and Schmidt took real power, barring that loss to Argentina at home, which even then was only just after they'd come in, we've been good results wise.
Apart from the record loss to SA, our worst loss ever
I mean sure, but that was a warmup game. It was a pure cash grab where neither side was seriously trying anything too dramatic.
Fuck that attitude, it was a test match versus the boks
That's typically my attitude, but I was there and it was clear it was as close to a friendly as you can get. Almost felt like being at the 7s - just a bit of fun on and off the field. I keep forgetting it happened.
Even a friendly requires two teams to show up
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So how many of this squad either will play thier last game in black, or already have?
Coles, Whitelock, Retallick, Frizzel, Smith, Mounga, Beaudie...
Sure some may come back, but too often that never works.
@taniwharugby Ryan likes Shannon, he might return.
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@Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2023:
So how many of this squad either will play thier last game in black, or already have?
Coles, Whitelock, Retallick, Frizzel, Smith, Mounga, Beaudie...
Sure some may come back, but too often that never works.
Yeah, it's going to be really weird seeing the ABs without Whitelock, Retallick, Smith and BB.
I hate this part of the cycle. 4 guys all in the conversation for all-time AB 23s all going.
Fuuuck I hope they go out like the 2015 guys. But not everyone gets a fairytale.Sobs
As long as they don't believe they deserve a fairy tale ending, then they're in with a pretty good chance
Somehow I think, looking at body language, that thought isn't in anyone's heads
It was a dig at sexcovkwomble saying a quarter final exit is not what he deserved
Fuck no way! He actually said that?
@Bones said in All Blacks 2023:
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2023:
So how many of this squad either will play thier last game in black, or already have?
Coles, Whitelock, Retallick, Frizzel, Smith, Mounga, Beaudie...
Sure some may come back, but too often that never works.
Yeah, it's going to be really weird seeing the ABs without Whitelock, Retallick, Smith and BB.
I hate this part of the cycle. 4 guys all in the conversation for all-time AB 23s all going.
Fuuuck I hope they go out like the 2015 guys. But not everyone gets a fairytale.Sobs
As long as they don't believe they deserve a fairy tale ending, then they're in with a pretty good chance
Somehow I think, looking at body language, that thought isn't in anyone's heads
It was a dig at sexcovkwomble saying a quarter final exit is not what he deserved
Fuck no way! He actually said that?
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2023:
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2023:
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2023:
@Stag said in All Blacks 2023:
Does it mean that we have actually have had the cattle for the last 4 years, but the coaching hasn’t been up to it until the last 6 weeks?
In fairness, since Ryan and Schmidt took real power, barring that loss to Argentina at home, which even then was only just after they'd come in, we've been good results wise.
Apart from the record loss to SA, our worst loss ever
I mean sure, but that was a warmup game. It was a pure cash grab where neither side was seriously trying anything too dramatic.
Fuck that attitude, it was a test match versus the boks
That's typically my attitude, but I was there and it was clear it was as close to a friendly as you can get. Almost felt like being at the 7s - just a bit of fun on and off the field. I keep forgetting it happened.
Even a friendly requires two teams to show up
@canefan said in All Blacks 2023:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2023:
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2023:
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2023:
@Stag said in All Blacks 2023:
Does it mean that we have actually have had the cattle for the last 4 years, but the coaching hasn’t been up to it until the last 6 weeks?
In fairness, since Ryan and Schmidt took real power, barring that loss to Argentina at home, which even then was only just after they'd come in, we've been good results wise.
Apart from the record loss to SA, our worst loss ever
I mean sure, but that was a warmup game. It was a pure cash grab where neither side was seriously trying anything too dramatic.
Fuck that attitude, it was a test match versus the boks
That's typically my attitude, but I was there and it was clear it was as close to a friendly as you can get. Almost felt like being at the 7s - just a bit of fun on and off the field. I keep forgetting it happened.
Even a friendly requires two teams to show up
