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All Blacks 2023

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  • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

    i dislike Fozzie as much or even more than the next bloke, will be happy to see him go and am very much looking forward to a reset next year

    but i cant argue things seem to be, FINALLY, clicking

    assuming this is the plan, fuck around for 4 years making everyone think its all falling apart then switch it on for the knockout games...then he/they are doing well, achieving their aim

    would i have done it like that, solely focus on the RWC? hell no

    ....but...id rather have to concede fozzie knew what he was doing than SA win

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    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2023:

    i dislike Fozzie as much or even more than the next bloke, will be happy to see him go and am very much looking forward to a reset next year

    but i cant argue things seem to be, FINALLY, clicking

    assuming this is the plan, fuck around for 4 years making everyone think its all falling apart then switch it on for the knockout games...then he/they are doing well, achieving their aim

    would i have done it like that, solely focus on the RWC? hell no

    ....but...id rather have to concede fozzie knew what he was doing than SA win

    Yeah I pretty much feel the same way.

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    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

      Which loops me back to

      A poor AB coach is a legend to nearly every other nation on earth.

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      @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:

      Which loops me back to

      A poor AB coach is a legend to nearly every other nation on earth.

      There are two ways of looking at that:
      -A poor AB coach is legendary for other nations. They love it because it seldom happens.

      -You'd have to be extremely piss-poor to take the players we have and consistently lose matches. Not even an average coach could do that. It takes exceptional shitness.

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      • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

        i dislike Fozzie as much or even more than the next bloke, will be happy to see him go and am very much looking forward to a reset next year

        but i cant argue things seem to be, FINALLY, clicking

        assuming this is the plan, fuck around for 4 years making everyone think its all falling apart then switch it on for the knockout games...then he/they are doing well, achieving their aim

        would i have done it like that, solely focus on the RWC? hell no

        ....but...id rather have to concede fozzie knew what he was doing than SA win

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        @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2023:

        i dislike Fozzie as much or even more than the next bloke, will be happy to see him go and am very much looking forward to a reset next year

        but i cant argue things seem to be, FINALLY, clicking

        assuming this is the plan, fuck around for 4 years making everyone think its all falling apart then switch it on for the knockout games...then he/they are doing well, achieving their aim

        would i have done it like that, solely focus on the RWC? hell no

        ....but...id rather have to concede fozzie knew what he was doing than SA win

        There was no plan. Shit results, gets saved by changing the assistants to two who know what they are doing. He is smug despite all the losses, imagine what he will be like for the rest of eternity-assuming we get 1 more win, in the final.
        Hail, Foster, RWC winning coach extraordinaire, savior of the All Blacks.

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        • WairauW Wairau

          @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2023:

          i dislike Fozzie as much or even more than the next bloke, will be happy to see him go and am very much looking forward to a reset next year

          but i cant argue things seem to be, FINALLY, clicking

          assuming this is the plan, fuck around for 4 years making everyone think its all falling apart then switch it on for the knockout games...then he/they are doing well, achieving their aim

          would i have done it like that, solely focus on the RWC? hell no

          ....but...id rather have to concede fozzie knew what he was doing than SA win

          There was no plan. Shit results, gets saved by changing the assistants to two who know what they are doing. He is smug despite all the losses, imagine what he will be like for the rest of eternity-assuming we get 1 more win, in the final.
          Hail, Foster, RWC winning coach extraordinaire, savior of the All Blacks.

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          Kiwiwomble
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          @Wairau you dont need to tell me...i have more than one rant about him on here

          but the alternative is what? cheer for SA so we can feel justified? fuck SA and fuck that, backing the boys to win and if he gets some praise then thats the price we pay

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          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

            No, that's not it

            Discussion? Fine
            You don't discuss. You've set your stall put around Ian Foster. And you go on. And on. And on. And on. About how he sucks.

            Good stuff? Luck, someone else, or the players overcoming their shit coach
            Everything bad? "See?!! I told you you!"

            It's weird.

            Ian Foster has been disappointing me personally since 2004. I have Facebook memories annually telling me just how much I have been disappointed.
            And yet here I am, 19 years later, able to admit maybe he knows a bit more than I gave him credit for.

            I can't wait to read your posts if we manage to win next weekend

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            @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:

            Ian Foster has been disappointing me personally since 2004. I have Facebook memories annually telling me just how much I have been disappointed.
            And yet here I am, 19 years later, able to admit maybe he knows a bit more than I gave him credit for.

            I'm wondering how I'd have reacted in 2003 if I'd been told we're stuck with the bloke for 20 years, no titles, but in 2023 he takes the AB's to a RWC Final, and...?

            Still feels a bit like Stephen Donald territory rather than an underrated coach, but fingers crossed for the weekend - and hopefully history gives us something great to reevaluate.

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              He’s one more win away from a knighthood, just to trigger the anti-Foster mob a little more.

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              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                @Bones said in All Blacks 2023:

                @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2023:

                @Bones The win % says more than the total number of wins.

                He's no Laurie Mains, but everyone's gotta have goals.

                John Mitchell done so dirty by that graphic

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                @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:

                @Bones said in All Blacks 2023:

                @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2023:

                @Bones The win % says more than the total number of wins.

                He's no Laurie Mains, but everyone's gotta have goals.

                John Mitchell done so dirty by that graphic

                Foster seems like a guy a little out of his depth, Mitchell has always seemed like a KHunt. So not done dirty at all in my book.

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                • KirwanK Kirwan

                  He’s one more win away from a knighthood, just to trigger the anti-Foster mob a little more.

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                  @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2023:

                  He’s one more win away from a knighthood, just to trigger the anti-Foster mob a little more.

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                  • NepiaN Nepia

                    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:

                    @Bones said in All Blacks 2023:

                    @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2023:

                    @Bones The win % says more than the total number of wins.

                    He's no Laurie Mains, but everyone's gotta have goals.

                    John Mitchell done so dirty by that graphic

                    Foster seems like a guy a little out of his depth, Mitchell has always seemed like a KHunt. So not done dirty at all in my book.

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                    @Nepia said in All Blacks 2023:

                    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:

                    @Bones said in All Blacks 2023:

                    @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2023:

                    @Bones The win % says more than the total number of wins.

                    He's no Laurie Mains, but everyone's gotta have goals.

                    John Mitchell done so dirty by that graphic

                    Foster seems like a guy a little out of his depth, Mitchell has always seemed like a KHunt. So not done dirty at all in my book.

                    At least Foster's players genuinely seem to be fond of him. Not sure any of Mitch's players would lay on a grenade for him. I dislike the man for clear reason. His only redeeming feature is that he has a son that plays cricket for NZ and does it very well

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                      Maybe Foster's coaching career is a version of the Mainland cheese advert. Maybe a bit more fitting than the Stephen Donald analogy?

                      I have all week to ponder it until Team Naming...

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                      • WairauW Wairau

                        @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2023:

                        i dislike Fozzie as much or even more than the next bloke, will be happy to see him go and am very much looking forward to a reset next year

                        but i cant argue things seem to be, FINALLY, clicking

                        assuming this is the plan, fuck around for 4 years making everyone think its all falling apart then switch it on for the knockout games...then he/they are doing well, achieving their aim

                        would i have done it like that, solely focus on the RWC? hell no

                        ....but...id rather have to concede fozzie knew what he was doing than SA win

                        There was no plan. Shit results, gets saved by changing the assistants to two who know what they are doing. He is smug despite all the losses, imagine what he will be like for the rest of eternity-assuming we get 1 more win, in the final.
                        Hail, Foster, RWC winning coach extraordinaire, savior of the All Blacks.

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                        @Wairau said in All Blacks 2023:

                        @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2023:

                        i dislike Fozzie as much or even more than the next bloke, will be happy to see him go and am very much looking forward to a reset next year

                        but i cant argue things seem to be, FINALLY, clicking

                        assuming this is the plan, fuck around for 4 years making everyone think its all falling apart then switch it on for the knockout games...then he/they are doing well, achieving their aim

                        would i have done it like that, solely focus on the RWC? hell no

                        ....but...id rather have to concede fozzie knew what he was doing than SA win

                        There was no plan. Shit results, gets saved by changing the assistants to two who know what they are doing. He is smug despite all the losses, imagine what he will be like for the rest of eternity-assuming we get 1 more win, in the final.
                        Hail, Foster, RWC winning coach extraordinaire, savior of the All Blacks.

                        We assume you'll be rooting for the Bokke then?

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                        • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                          i dislike Fozzie as much or even more than the next bloke, will be happy to see him go and am very much looking forward to a reset next year

                          but i cant argue things seem to be, FINALLY, clicking

                          assuming this is the plan, fuck around for 4 years making everyone think its all falling apart then switch it on for the knockout games...then he/they are doing well, achieving their aim

                          would i have done it like that, solely focus on the RWC? hell no

                          ....but...id rather have to concede fozzie knew what he was doing than SA win

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                          @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2023:

                          i dislike Fozzie as much or even more than the next bloke, will be happy to see him go and am very much looking forward to a reset next year

                          but i cant argue things seem to be, FINALLY, clicking

                          assuming this is the plan, fuck around for 4 years making everyone think its all falling apart then switch it on for the knockout games...then he/they are doing well, achieving their aim

                          would i have done it like that, solely focus on the RWC? hell no

                          ....but...id rather have to concede fozzie knew what he was doing than SA win

                          Is Foster non binary too ?

                          Crumbs, at least it’ll give us something to give him grief about other than fat jokes I guess

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                          • MN5M MN5

                            @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2023:

                            i dislike Fozzie as much or even more than the next bloke, will be happy to see him go and am very much looking forward to a reset next year

                            but i cant argue things seem to be, FINALLY, clicking

                            assuming this is the plan, fuck around for 4 years making everyone think its all falling apart then switch it on for the knockout games...then he/they are doing well, achieving their aim

                            would i have done it like that, solely focus on the RWC? hell no

                            ....but...id rather have to concede fozzie knew what he was doing than SA win

                            Is Foster non binary too ?

                            Crumbs, at least it’ll give us something to give him grief about other than fat jokes I guess

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                            @MN5 said in All Blacks 2023:

                            @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2023:

                            i dislike Fozzie as much or even more than the next bloke, will be happy to see him go and am very much looking forward to a reset next year

                            but i cant argue things seem to be, FINALLY, clicking

                            assuming this is the plan, fuck around for 4 years making everyone think its all falling apart then switch it on for the knockout games...then he/they are doing well, achieving their aim

                            would i have done it like that, solely focus on the RWC? hell no

                            ....but...id rather have to concede fozzie knew what he was doing than SA win

                            Is Foster non binary too ?

                            Crumbs, at least it’ll give us something to give him grief about other than fat jokes I guess

                            The team, if this is the plan then the players have to be in on it, to stick to previous game plans the weren’t working

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                              Isn't there a dedicated thread for you lot to cry endlessly about Foster?

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                                Whatever one's views of Foster himself, it is undeniable that the AB coaching team has done a good job post the Irish series.

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                                  The final first I want under Fozzie is beating Boks in a RWC final.

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                                    I have fairly low expectations, I'm just asking Foster to help the ABs win one more game, and then he can lose as many as he likes. And if he looks smug currently, well, you can understand why.
                                    I still think Farrell is one of the best coaches out there.

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                                    • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                                      Maybe Foster's coaching career is a version of the Mainland cheese advert. Maybe a bit more fitting than the Stephen Donald analogy?

                                      I have all week to ponder it until Team Naming...

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                                      @Donsteppa said in All Blacks 2023:

                                      Maybe Foster's coaching career is a version of the Mainland cheese advert. Maybe a bit more fitting than the Stephen Donald analogy?

                                      I have all week to ponder it until Team Naming...

                                      I think it's a fairly apt likeness comparing Fozzie to Donald.

                                      Both are stories of redemption and making up for their past wrongs on the biggest stage. To everyone delight and surprise I might add.

                                      However as much as Donald is loved in NZ rugby folk lore I doubt anyone would say that due to his 2011 performance he was a better first 5 than Carter or Fox or a great number of first 5's in the modern game.

                                      Same would be said for Foster - there would be a certain RWC winner cult status provided to him but again I doubt many would say he was a better coach than well, anyone in the modern era aside from Laurie Mains...

                                      So in summary I think it's a very apt comparison should the AB's win this weekend...

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                                        All is forgiven in my book if he wins the World Cup.

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                                        • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                                          @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:

                                          Ian Foster has been disappointing me personally since 2004. I have Facebook memories annually telling me just how much I have been disappointed.
                                          And yet here I am, 19 years later, able to admit maybe he knows a bit more than I gave him credit for.

                                          I'm wondering how I'd have reacted in 2003 if I'd been told we're stuck with the bloke for 20 years, no titles, but in 2023 he takes the AB's to a RWC Final, and...?

                                          Still feels a bit like Stephen Donald territory rather than an underrated coach, but fingers crossed for the weekend - and hopefully history gives us something great to reevaluate.

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                                          @Donsteppa said in All Blacks 2023:

                                          Still feels a bit like Stephen Donald territory rather than an underrated coach

                                          Or Laurie Mains?

                                          Years of schizo results and things come together during the RWC. We have the Saffas in the final.. hopefully someone can hit drop kicks better than Merhts. His hyped up successor has a great domestic record

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