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Will Jordan's try scoring

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  • CyclopsC Cyclops

    It's kind of incredible that Savea, Rokocoko and Cullen all ended on 46

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    @Cyclops said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

    It's kind of incredible that Savea, Rokocoko and Cullen all ended on 46

    By crikey that wouldn’t look too bad as an all time XV back three.

    Well, fullback is locked in but Jonah, Goldie and JK would get ahead of those wingers. Amazing legacy when you look at it that way.

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    • BovidaeB Bovidae

      Looking at the full list, Savea is only 3 test tries away from equalling McCaw at 27 (the most for a forward).

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      @Bovidae said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

      Looking at the full list, Savea is only 3 test tries away from equalling McCaw at 27 (the most for a forward).

      So far and away the best AB try scoring brothers……70 ( and counting ) is fucken outstanding.

      Barretts second obviously ( three of them helps )

      Who would be third ? Hosea Gear didn’t play as much as he should have….Not sure Robin Brooke got many…..Akira Ioane only has one to help his brother. The Franks were more into other aspects of Rugby than scoring tries….

      Aaron, Conrad and Ben Smith maybe ?

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      • MN5M MN5

        @Bovidae said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

        Looking at the full list, Savea is only 3 test tries away from equalling McCaw at 27 (the most for a forward).

        So far and away the best AB try scoring brothers……70 ( and counting ) is fucken outstanding.

        Barretts second obviously ( three of them helps )

        Who would be third ? Hosea Gear didn’t play as much as he should have….Not sure Robin Brooke got many…..Akira Ioane only has one to help his brother. The Franks were more into other aspects of Rugby than scoring tries….

        Aaron, Conrad and Ben Smith maybe ?

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        #53

        @MN5 said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

        @Bovidae said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

        Looking at the full list, Savea is only 3 test tries away from equalling McCaw at 27 (the most for a forward).

        So far and away the best AB try scoring brothers……

        Barretts second obviously ( three of them helps )

        Who would be third ?

        Ioane brothers on 37

        Savea's on: 69

        Barretts on 70.

        The Smith Brothers (Conrad/Ben/Aaron) with 103 in total

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        • Magpie_in_ausM Magpie_in_aus

          @MN5 said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

          @Bovidae said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

          Looking at the full list, Savea is only 3 test tries away from equalling McCaw at 27 (the most for a forward).

          So far and away the best AB try scoring brothers……

          Barretts second obviously ( three of them helps )

          Who would be third ?

          Ioane brothers on 37

          Savea's on: 69

          Barretts on 70.

          The Smith Brothers (Conrad/Ben/Aaron) with 103 in total

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          #54

          @Magpie_in_aus said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

          @MN5 said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

          @Bovidae said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

          Looking at the full list, Savea is only 3 test tries away from equalling McCaw at 27 (the most for a forward).

          So far and away the best AB try scoring brothers……

          Barretts second obviously ( three of them helps )

          Who would be third ?

          Ioane brothers on 37

          Savea's on: 69

          Barretts on 70.

          The Smith Brothers (Conrad/Ben/Aaron) with 103 in total

          I’m really struggling to find a good list on the interweb.

          Isn’t 24 plus 46 = 70 ? ( Saveas )

          Scott obviously adding a handful gets the Barretts up there.

          Who is legitimately third ? ( I just found out the Smiths aren’t related, turns out its a common name )

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          • Magpie_in_ausM Magpie_in_aus

            @MN5 said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

            @Bovidae said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

            Looking at the full list, Savea is only 3 test tries away from equalling McCaw at 27 (the most for a forward).

            So far and away the best AB try scoring brothers……

            Barretts second obviously ( three of them helps )

            Who would be third ?

            Ioane brothers on 37

            Savea's on: 69

            Barretts on 70.

            The Smith Brothers (Conrad/Ben/Aaron) with 103 in total

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            #55

            @Magpie_in_aus said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

            @MN5 said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

            @Bovidae said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

            Looking at the full list, Savea is only 3 test tries away from equalling McCaw at 27 (the most for a forward).

            So far and away the best AB try scoring brothers……

            Barretts second obviously ( three of them helps )

            Who would be third ?

            Ioane brothers on 37

            Savea's on: 69

            Barretts on 70.

            The Smith Brothers (Conrad/Ben/Aaron) with 103 in total

            Did Wayne never score a try?

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            • BonesB Bones

              @Magpie_in_aus said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

              @MN5 said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

              @Bovidae said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

              Looking at the full list, Savea is only 3 test tries away from equalling McCaw at 27 (the most for a forward).

              So far and away the best AB try scoring brothers……

              Barretts second obviously ( three of them helps )

              Who would be third ?

              Ioane brothers on 37

              Savea's on: 69

              Barretts on 70.

              The Smith Brothers (Conrad/Ben/Aaron) with 103 in total

              Did Wayne never score a try?

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              @Bones said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

              @Magpie_in_aus said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

              @MN5 said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

              @Bovidae said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

              Looking at the full list, Savea is only 3 test tries away from equalling McCaw at 27 (the most for a forward).

              So far and away the best AB try scoring brothers……

              Barretts second obviously ( three of them helps )

              Who would be third ?

              Ioane brothers on 37

              Savea's on: 69

              Barretts on 70.

              The Smith Brothers (Conrad/Ben/Aaron) with 103 in total

              Did Wayne never score a try?

              Wayne Ioane or Wayne Savea ?

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              • MN5M MN5

                @Bones said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

                @Magpie_in_aus said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

                @MN5 said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

                @Bovidae said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

                Looking at the full list, Savea is only 3 test tries away from equalling McCaw at 27 (the most for a forward).

                So far and away the best AB try scoring brothers……

                Barretts second obviously ( three of them helps )

                Who would be third ?

                Ioane brothers on 37

                Savea's on: 69

                Barretts on 70.

                The Smith Brothers (Conrad/Ben/Aaron) with 103 in total

                Did Wayne never score a try?

                Wayne Ioane or Wayne Savea ?

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                @MN5 said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

                @Bones said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

                @Magpie_in_aus said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

                @MN5 said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

                @Bovidae said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

                Looking at the full list, Savea is only 3 test tries away from equalling McCaw at 27 (the most for a forward).

                So far and away the best AB try scoring brothers……

                Barretts second obviously ( three of them helps )

                Who would be third ?

                Ioane brothers on 37

                Savea's on: 69

                Barretts on 70.

                The Smith Brothers (Conrad/Ben/Aaron) with 103 in total

                Did Wayne never score a try?

                Wayne Ioane or Wayne Savea ?

                @MN5 said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

                @Bones said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

                @Magpie_in_aus said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

                @MN5 said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

                @Bovidae said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

                Looking at the full list, Savea is only 3 test tries away from equalling McCaw at 27 (the most for a forward).

                So far and away the best AB try scoring brothers……

                Barretts second obviously ( three of them helps )

                Who would be third ?

                Ioane brothers on 37

                Savea's on: 69

                Barretts on 70.

                The Smith Brothers (Conrad/Ben/Aaron) with 103 in total

                Did Wayne never score a try?

                Wayne Ioane or Wayne Savea ?

                I don't think Tawera Kerr-Barlow and Wayne Kerr even make the top 10.

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                • MN5M MN5

                  @Magpie_in_aus said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

                  @MN5 said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

                  @Bovidae said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

                  Looking at the full list, Savea is only 3 test tries away from equalling McCaw at 27 (the most for a forward).

                  So far and away the best AB try scoring brothers……

                  Barretts second obviously ( three of them helps )

                  Who would be third ?

                  Ioane brothers on 37

                  Savea's on: 69

                  Barretts on 70.

                  The Smith Brothers (Conrad/Ben/Aaron) with 103 in total

                  I’m really struggling to find a good list on the interweb.

                  Isn’t 24 plus 46 = 70 ? ( Saveas )

                  Scott obviously adding a handful gets the Barretts up there.

                  Who is legitimately third ? ( I just found out the Smiths aren’t related, turns out its a common name )

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                  @MN5 said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

                  @Magpie_in_aus said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

                  @MN5 said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

                  @Bovidae said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

                  Looking at the full list, Savea is only 3 test tries away from equalling McCaw at 27 (the most for a forward).

                  So far and away the best AB try scoring brothers……

                  Barretts second obviously ( three of them helps )

                  Who would be third ?

                  Ioane brothers on 37

                  Savea's on: 69

                  Barretts on 70.

                  The Smith Brothers (Conrad/Ben/Aaron) with 103 in total

                  I’m really struggling to find a good list on the interweb.

                  Isn’t 24 plus 46 = 70 ? ( Saveas )

                  Scott obviously adding a handful gets the Barretts up there.

                  Who is legitimately third ? ( I just found out the Smiths aren’t related, turns out its a common name )

                  I just added them up either from Wiki and/or AB's website but good chance they haven't updated.

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                  • Magpie_in_ausM Magpie_in_aus

                    @MN5 said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

                    @Bones said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

                    @Magpie_in_aus said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

                    @MN5 said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

                    @Bovidae said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

                    Looking at the full list, Savea is only 3 test tries away from equalling McCaw at 27 (the most for a forward).

                    So far and away the best AB try scoring brothers……

                    Barretts second obviously ( three of them helps )

                    Who would be third ?

                    Ioane brothers on 37

                    Savea's on: 69

                    Barretts on 70.

                    The Smith Brothers (Conrad/Ben/Aaron) with 103 in total

                    Did Wayne never score a try?

                    Wayne Ioane or Wayne Savea ?

                    @MN5 said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

                    @Bones said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

                    @Magpie_in_aus said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

                    @MN5 said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

                    @Bovidae said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

                    Looking at the full list, Savea is only 3 test tries away from equalling McCaw at 27 (the most for a forward).

                    So far and away the best AB try scoring brothers……

                    Barretts second obviously ( three of them helps )

                    Who would be third ?

                    Ioane brothers on 37

                    Savea's on: 69

                    Barretts on 70.

                    The Smith Brothers (Conrad/Ben/Aaron) with 103 in total

                    Did Wayne never score a try?

                    Wayne Ioane or Wayne Savea ?

                    I don't think Tawera Kerr-Barlow and Wayne Kerr even make the top 10.

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                    • BonesB Bones

                      @Magpie_in_aus said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

                      @MN5 said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

                      @Bovidae said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

                      Looking at the full list, Savea is only 3 test tries away from equalling McCaw at 27 (the most for a forward).

                      So far and away the best AB try scoring brothers……

                      Barretts second obviously ( three of them helps )

                      Who would be third ?

                      Ioane brothers on 37

                      Savea's on: 69

                      Barretts on 70.

                      The Smith Brothers (Conrad/Ben/Aaron) with 103 in total

                      Did Wayne never score a try?

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                      @Bones said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

                      @Magpie_in_aus said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

                      @MN5 said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

                      @Bovidae said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

                      Looking at the full list, Savea is only 3 test tries away from equalling McCaw at 27 (the most for a forward).

                      So far and away the best AB try scoring brothers……

                      Barretts second obviously ( three of them helps )

                      Who would be third ?

                      Ioane brothers on 37

                      Savea's on: 69

                      Barretts on 70.

                      The Smith Brothers (Conrad/Ben/Aaron) with 103 in total

                      Did Wayne never score a try?

                      We're not talking Father and son(s).

                      Fitzpatricks maybe up in that count.

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                      • MN5M MN5

                        @Magpie_in_aus said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

                        @MN5 said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

                        @Bovidae said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

                        Looking at the full list, Savea is only 3 test tries away from equalling McCaw at 27 (the most for a forward).

                        So far and away the best AB try scoring brothers……

                        Barretts second obviously ( three of them helps )

                        Who would be third ?

                        Ioane brothers on 37

                        Savea's on: 69

                        Barretts on 70.

                        The Smith Brothers (Conrad/Ben/Aaron) with 103 in total

                        I’m really struggling to find a good list on the interweb.

                        Isn’t 24 plus 46 = 70 ? ( Saveas )

                        Scott obviously adding a handful gets the Barretts up there.

                        Who is legitimately third ? ( I just found out the Smiths aren’t related, turns out its a common name )

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                        @MN5 said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

                        Who is legitimately third ?

                        It probably is the Ioane’s. The top try scorers list is dominated by people who finished up playing after 2000. There’s not that many brothers in that period

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                          61 posts and no mention of Doug. lol . I would assume he was also extremely fast at amassing his tries?

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                            Ioanes 37 (Rieko 36, Akira 1)
                            Brookes 21 (Zinzan 17, Robin 4)
                            Gears 17 (Rico 11, Hosea 6)

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                              What the try scoring lists show is how we dont hang onto players past their prime.(or stupidly believe they are past their prime or play them out of position) Our top try scoring wings or FB's often find themselves replaced by the next big thing. Where as other countries hang onto theirs, look at Habana, Shane Williams etc.
                              How likely is it an All Black wing will ever play 100 tests let alone play long enough to threaten 60+ test tries?

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                                What the try scoring lists show is how we dont hang onto players past their prime.(or stupidly believe they are past their prime or play them out of position) Our top try scoring wings or FB's often find themselves replaced by the next big thing. Where as other countries hang onto theirs, look at Habana, Shane Williams etc.
                                How likely is it an All Black wing will ever play 100 tests let alone play long enough to threaten 60+ test tries?

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                                @Virgil said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

                                What the try scoring lists show is how we dont hang onto players past their prime.(or stupidly believe they are past their prime or play them out of position) Our top try scoring wings or FB's often find themselves replaced by the next big thing. Where as other countries hang onto theirs, look at Habana, Shane Williams etc.
                                How likely is it an All Black wing will ever play 100 tests let alone play long enough to threaten 60+ test tries?

                                Habana and Williams probably didn’t have the absolute freakish attacking abilities that our guys did I would argue…..Jonah, Cully, Joe, Julian etc. Once that edge was lost so was their place in the team.

                                I know you’re a cricket fan, you could compare it to when Jeff Thomson lost his pace and unlike Hadlee and Lillee he didn’t “better” himself as a bowler to make up for it ?

                                J Savea is still playing but by all accounts he is a shell of his former self.

                                I argued this point with @Nepia and almost found myself in the awkward position of defending John Mitchell when he dropped Cullen.

                                ( I had a cold shower afterwards )

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                                  @Virgil said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

                                  What the try scoring lists show is how we dont hang onto players past their prime.(or stupidly believe they are past their prime or play them out of position) Our top try scoring wings or FB's often find themselves replaced by the next big thing. Where as other countries hang onto theirs, look at Habana, Shane Williams etc.
                                  How likely is it an All Black wing will ever play 100 tests let alone play long enough to threaten 60+ test tries?

                                  Habana and Williams probably didn’t have the absolute freakish attacking abilities that our guys did I would argue…..Jonah, Cully, Joe, Julian etc. Once that edge was lost so was their place in the team.

                                  I know you’re a cricket fan, you could compare it to when Jeff Thomson lost his pace and unlike Hadlee and Lillee he didn’t “better” himself as a bowler to make up for it ?

                                  J Savea is still playing but by all accounts he is a shell of his former self.

                                  I argued this point with @Nepia and almost found myself in the awkward position of defending John Mitchell when he dropped Cullen.

                                  ( I had a cold shower afterwards )

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                                  @MN5 said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

                                  @Virgil said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

                                  What the try scoring lists show is how we dont hang onto players past their prime.(or stupidly believe they are past their prime or play them out of position) Our top try scoring wings or FB's often find themselves replaced by the next big thing. Where as other countries hang onto theirs, look at Habana, Shane Williams etc.
                                  How likely is it an All Black wing will ever play 100 tests let alone play long enough to threaten 60+ test tries?

                                  I argued this point with @Nepia and almost found myself in the awkward position of defending John Mitchell when he dropped Cullen.

                                  ( I had a cold shower afterwards )

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                                  • B bayimports

                                    61 posts and no mention of Doug. lol . I would assume he was also extremely fast at amassing his tries?

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                                    @bayimports said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

                                    61 posts and no mention of Doug. lol . I would assume he was also extremely fast at amassing his tries?

                                    I mentioned Doug's record. 🙂

                                    Actually, he made a late run and scored 15 tries in his last 17 tests.

                                    So 34 in his first 45 tests.

                                    Will needs 3 tries in his next 15 tests to match him.

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                                      @Duluth Yeah - especially if he shifts to fullback - which he probably needs to do to prolong his career.

                                      Papali'i's comment about the amount of laptop work he does is pretty interesting.

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                                      @Chris-B said in Will Jordan's try scoring:

                                      Yeah - especially if he shifts to fullback - which he probably needs to do to prolong his career.

                                      Breaking it purely as a wing seems really difficult. There's always another freak just around the corner

                                      So Jordan and Rieko both have a reasonable chance assuming Jordan moves to fullback. Score the bulk of the tries as a winger, then move to a position with better longevity but a lower strike rate

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