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The Current State of Rugby

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  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

    Because I think that there is an unconscious bias in refereeing

    If the fancied team does something good, it's because they are so good at rugby

    If the unfancied team did something good, it's because they did something nefarious

    I see too many examples of it happening to not be at least a little true

    And I say that as a supporter of a team who gets those calls often

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    @mariner4life said in The Current State of Rugby:

    Because I think that there is an unconscious bias in refereeing

    If the fancied team does something good, it's because they are so good at rugby

    If the unfancied team did something good, it's because they did something nefarious

    I see too many examples of it happening to not be at least a little true

    And I say that as a supporter of a team who gets those calls often

    I’d say it’s pretty indisputable right now

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    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

      And no no one looks at the first Irish try which is the very definition of obstruction. The Irish player runs behind a lead runner. Said.lead runner bowls over the Scottish hooker, and the Irish runner runs through the hole that creates. Absolutely no review. At all.

      What even is this sport?

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      @mariner4life the 2 Irish itv pundits BOD and Best both couldn’t believe it wasn’t looked at.

      When the TMO outright lied on the touch call, incompetence went out the window & there was genuine reason to believe in a fix.

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      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

        Because I think that there is an unconscious bias in refereeing

        If the fancied team does something good, it's because they are so good at rugby

        If the unfancied team did something good, it's because they did something nefarious

        I see too many examples of it happening to not be at least a little true

        And I say that as a supporter of a team who gets those calls often

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        @mariner4life said in The Current State of Rugby:

        Because I think that there is an unconscious bias in refereeing

        If the fancied team does something good, it's because they are so good at rugby

        If the unfancied team did something good, it's because they did something nefarious

        I see too many examples of it happening to not be at least a little true

        And I say that as a supporter of a team who gets those calls often

        If someone jumps up and down about it, we may get some benefit next week.

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        • gt12G gt12

          @mariner4life said in The Current State of Rugby:

          Because I think that there is an unconscious bias in refereeing

          If the fancied team does something good, it's because they are so good at rugby

          If the unfancied team did something good, it's because they did something nefarious

          I see too many examples of it happening to not be at least a little true

          And I say that as a supporter of a team who gets those calls often

          If someone jumps up and down about it, we may get some benefit next week.

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          @gt12 sad as it may be, we need to highlight these, wave oirnarms, fall over and exaggerate these illegal contacts, then they will be looked at closer, if they are pulled up or not...

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          • MajorPomM MajorPom

            @mariner4life the 2 Irish itv pundits BOD and Best both couldn’t believe it wasn’t looked at.

            When the TMO outright lied on the touch call, incompetence went out the window & there was genuine reason to believe in a fix.

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            @MajorRage said in The Current State of Rugby:

            @mariner4life the 2 Irish itv pundits BOD and Best both couldn’t believe it wasn’t looked at.

            When the TMO outright lied on the touch call, incompetence went out the window & there was genuine reason to believe in a fix.

            My opinion of these two has lifted as a result. Support your team, but always be ready to call out missteps

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              The reffing issue isn't just on here. It's invariably the topic of conversation when discussing the RWC with people. I've always been wary of any reffing conspiracy theories, but I'm not so sure now...it's damaging the game.

              As @gt12 has said, I think it's time it was called out. Hopefully behind closed doors, but if not, then someone will need to go public.

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              • canefanC canefan

                @MajorRage said in The Current State of Rugby:

                @mariner4life the 2 Irish itv pundits BOD and Best both couldn’t believe it wasn’t looked at.

                When the TMO outright lied on the touch call, incompetence went out the window & there was genuine reason to believe in a fix.

                My opinion of these two has lifted as a result. Support your team, but always be ready to call out missteps

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                @canefan said in The Current State of Rugby:

                My opinion of these two has lifted as a result.

                Rory Best is one of rugby's all-time good guys. BOD is still a fluffybunny.

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                • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                  The reffing issue isn't just on here. It's invariably the topic of conversation when discussing the RWC with people. I've always been wary of any reffing conspiracy theories, but I'm not so sure now...it's damaging the game.

                  As @gt12 has said, I think it's time it was called out. Hopefully behind closed doors, but if not, then someone will need to go public.

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                  @Victor-Meldrew said in The Current State of Rugby:

                  The reffing issue isn't just on here. It's invariably the topic of conversation when discussing the RWC with people. I've always been wary of any reffing conspiracy theories, but I'm not so sure now...it's damaging the game.

                  As @gt12 has said, I think it's time it was called out. Hopefully behind closed doors, but if not, then someone will need to go public.

                  Where's Jason Paris when you need him....

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                    It’s become a fucking joke of a sport.

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                    • sparkyS sparky

                      It’s become a fucking joke of a sport.

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                      @sparky said in The Current State of Rugby:

                      It’s become a fucking joke of a sport.

                      the inconsistency and lottery week to week does my head. Played well, the best sport in the world, but there's a reason I've fallen out of love with professional rugby. It's on display tonight. Was on display with Ireland series last year.

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                      • nzzpN nzzp

                        @sparky said in The Current State of Rugby:

                        It’s become a fucking joke of a sport.

                        the inconsistency and lottery week to week does my head. Played well, the best sport in the world, but there's a reason I've fallen out of love with professional rugby. It's on display tonight. Was on display with Ireland series last year.

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                        @nzzp said in The Current State of Rugby:

                        @sparky said in The Current State of Rugby:

                        It’s become a fucking joke of a sport.

                        the inconsistency and lottery week to week does my head. Played well, the best sport in the world, but there's a reason I've fallen out of love with professional rugby. It's on display tonight. Was on display with Ireland series last year.

                        I am afraid I don’t love it any more.

                        I’ll be back for the 6 Nations and the Super season, but I have nothing like the enthusiasm for the sport that I once did. I suspect many others feel the same.

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                        • nzzpN nzzp

                          @sparky said in The Current State of Rugby:

                          It’s become a fucking joke of a sport.

                          the inconsistency and lottery week to week does my head. Played well, the best sport in the world, but there's a reason I've fallen out of love with professional rugby. It's on display tonight. Was on display with Ireland series last year.

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                          @nzzp yep, club and npc is where its at for me.

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                          • sparkyS sparky

                            @nzzp said in The Current State of Rugby:

                            @sparky said in The Current State of Rugby:

                            It’s become a fucking joke of a sport.

                            the inconsistency and lottery week to week does my head. Played well, the best sport in the world, but there's a reason I've fallen out of love with professional rugby. It's on display tonight. Was on display with Ireland series last year.

                            I am afraid I don’t love it any more.

                            I’ll be back for the 6 Nations and the Super season, but I have nothing like the enthusiasm for the sport that I once did. I suspect many others feel the same.

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                            @sparky said in The Current State of Rugby:

                            I am afraid I don’t love it any more.

                            try watching some amateur. It's way more fun - normal people playing a great sport.

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                              Right time to downgrade the Stan subscription, and go to sleep until February on the rugby streaming front.

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                              • sparkyS sparky

                                @nzzp said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                @sparky said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                It’s become a fucking joke of a sport.

                                the inconsistency and lottery week to week does my head. Played well, the best sport in the world, but there's a reason I've fallen out of love with professional rugby. It's on display tonight. Was on display with Ireland series last year.

                                I am afraid I don’t love it any more.

                                I’ll be back for the 6 Nations and the Super season, but I have nothing like the enthusiasm for the sport that I once did. I suspect many others feel the same.

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                                @sparky said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                @nzzp said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                @sparky said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                It’s become a fucking joke of a sport.

                                the inconsistency and lottery week to week does my head. Played well, the best sport in the world, but there's a reason I've fallen out of love with professional rugby. It's on display tonight. Was on display with Ireland series last year.

                                I am afraid I don’t love it any more.

                                I’ll be back for the 6 Nations and the Super season, but I have nothing like the enthusiasm for the sport that I once did. I suspect many others feel the same.

                                Yes,but a lot of that is all about growing up and realising it’s not the be all and end all.

                                The refereeing certainly does not help though.

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                                  Watch that game. Then watch the NRL grand final. It's chalk and cheese, and the Panthers Broncos game was the Camembert

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                                  • canefanC canefan

                                    Watch that game. Then watch the NRL grand final. It's chalk and cheese, and the Panthers Broncos game was the Camembert

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                                    @canefan said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                    Watch that game. Then watch the NRL grand final. It's chalk and cheese, and the Panthers Broncos game was the Camembert

                                    As a spectacle or reffing? Because that was a damn good game of rugby for fans of rugby (maybe not for league fans).

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                                    • NepiaN Nepia

                                      @canefan said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                      Watch that game. Then watch the NRL grand final. It's chalk and cheese, and the Panthers Broncos game was the Camembert

                                      As a spectacle or reffing? Because that was a damn good game of rugby for fans of rugby (maybe not for league fans).

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                                      @Nepia said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                      @canefan said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                      Watch that game. Then watch the NRL grand final. It's chalk and cheese, and the Panthers Broncos game was the Camembert

                                      As a spectacle or reffing? Because that was a damn good game of rugby for fans of rugby (maybe not for league fans).

                                      It was close. But the TMO and ref ruined the game and spoiled the flow. All hopes that Barnes would stop the rest breaks were dashed. It moved so slowly for a long spell of the second half. NRL was just dynamic

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                                      • MN5M MN5

                                        @sparky said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                        @nzzp said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                        @sparky said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                        It’s become a fucking joke of a sport.

                                        the inconsistency and lottery week to week does my head. Played well, the best sport in the world, but there's a reason I've fallen out of love with professional rugby. It's on display tonight. Was on display with Ireland series last year.

                                        I am afraid I don’t love it any more.

                                        I’ll be back for the 6 Nations and the Super season, but I have nothing like the enthusiasm for the sport that I once did. I suspect many others feel the same.

                                        Yes,but a lot of that is all about growing up and realising it’s not the be all and end all.

                                        The refereeing certainly does not help though.

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                                        @MN5 said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                        @sparky said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                        @nzzp said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                        @sparky said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                        It’s become a fucking joke of a sport.

                                        the inconsistency and lottery week to week does my head. Played well, the best sport in the world, but there's a reason I've fallen out of love with professional rugby. It's on display tonight. Was on display with Ireland series last year.

                                        I am afraid I don’t love it any more.

                                        I’ll be back for the 6 Nations and the Super season, but I have nothing like the enthusiasm for the sport that I once did. I suspect many others feel the same.

                                        Yes,but a lot of that is all about growing up and realising it’s not the be all and end all.

                                        The refereeing certainly does not help though.

                                        I think it comes down to where you are in life as you've pointed out.

                                        Before Wallabies games I could barely eat, and felt nauseous. I'd shout at the TV etc etc

                                        Who has the energy for that any more?

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                                        • NTAN NTA

                                          @MN5 said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                          @sparky said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                          @nzzp said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                          @sparky said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                          It’s become a fucking joke of a sport.

                                          the inconsistency and lottery week to week does my head. Played well, the best sport in the world, but there's a reason I've fallen out of love with professional rugby. It's on display tonight. Was on display with Ireland series last year.

                                          I am afraid I don’t love it any more.

                                          I’ll be back for the 6 Nations and the Super season, but I have nothing like the enthusiasm for the sport that I once did. I suspect many others feel the same.

                                          Yes,but a lot of that is all about growing up and realising it’s not the be all and end all.

                                          The refereeing certainly does not help though.

                                          I think it comes down to where you are in life as you've pointed out.

                                          Before Wallabies games I could barely eat, and felt nauseous. I'd shout at the TV etc etc

                                          Who has the energy for that any more?

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                                          @NTA said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                          @MN5 said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                          @sparky said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                          @nzzp said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                          @sparky said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                          It’s become a fucking joke of a sport.

                                          the inconsistency and lottery week to week does my head. Played well, the best sport in the world, but there's a reason I've fallen out of love with professional rugby. It's on display tonight. Was on display with Ireland series last year.

                                          I am afraid I don’t love it any more.

                                          I’ll be back for the 6 Nations and the Super season, but I have nothing like the enthusiasm for the sport that I once did. I suspect many others feel the same.

                                          Yes,but a lot of that is all about growing up and realising it’s not the be all and end all.

                                          The refereeing certainly does not help though.

                                          I think it comes down to where you are in life as you've pointed out.

                                          Before Wallabies games I could barely eat, and felt nauseous. I'd shout at the TV etc etc

                                          Who has the energy for that any more?

                                          Not the Wallabies!

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