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  • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

    Need to find a rabid nutter 6

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    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024:

    Need to find a rabid nutter 6

    I have high hopes for Finau. Hopefully a second season slump is avoided.

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      Any chance of savea moving back to 7 under Robertson?

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        I said this after the 2019 RWC exit and the loss of several players and a new coach that there would be some rocky times ahead for the ABs. So in a COVID restriction based environment we saw the roller coaster over the last 4 years.

        I expect that there will be some up and down performances as new players find their place in the side.

        For me lock, hooker, blindside, halfback and 1st 5 are the areas we need to find some talent and quickly.

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          I think the rebuilding after the 2015 cup was probably way bigger, wasn't it?
          Losing McCaw, Kaino, Nonu, Conrad, and probably a few more (sorry), those were probably all World XV starters (anyone who takes O'Driscoll over Conrad has just got it wrong). Now, the locks are going to be hard to replace, but otherwise it isn't looking too bad.

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          • TordahT Tordah

            I think the rebuilding after the 2015 cup was probably way bigger, wasn't it?
            Losing McCaw, Kaino, Nonu, Conrad, and probably a few more (sorry), those were probably all World XV starters (anyone who takes O'Driscoll over Conrad has just got it wrong). Now, the locks are going to be hard to replace, but otherwise it isn't looking too bad.

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            @Tordah said in All Blacks 2024:

            I think the rebuilding after the 2015 cup was probably way bigger, wasn't it?
            Losing McCaw, Kaino, Nonu, Conrad, and probably a few more (sorry), those were probably all World XV starters (anyone who takes O'Driscoll over Conrad has just got it wrong). Now, the locks are going to be hard to replace, but otherwise it isn't looking too bad.

            The biggest issues post 2015 was the midfield and blindside. We had players but it became a revolving door because of injury and form.

            Replacing McCaw was somewhat easier because Cane had served a decent apprenticeship. Not that they are like for like, but we had a player ready.

            Read was still there and playing some quality footy in 2016-17.

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              The captain is going to be an interesting proposition

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              • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                Any chance of savea moving back to 7 under Robertson?

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                @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks 2024:

                Any chance of savea moving back to 7 under Robertson?

                Nah, Blackadder for 7, Ardie and Finau in 8 and 6.

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                  Roigard-DMac-Jordie-Reiko-Telea-Narawa-Jordan Looking good
                  Just need a 6 and a plan
                  Haven't had much of a plan over the last 4 years so here's hoping.

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                  • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

                    The captain is going to be an interesting proposition

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                    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024:

                    The captain is going to be an interesting proposition

                    Ardie or Scott B?

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                    • BonesB Online
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                      Lomax captain

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                      • BerniesCornerB Offline
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                        Ardie

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                          I think I read somewhere that England are coming over for a tour in July. That should be fun!

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                            I think the starters almost take care of themselves, it’s the bench and the wider squad that present the bigger questions…

                            Groot
                            Soni
                            Lomax
                            Lord / Vaai
                            Dogroll
                            ? (Finau, Blackadder, A Ioane, Vaai)
                            Papalii
                            Savea
                            Roigard
                            DMac
                            Telea
                            Jordie
                            R Ioane
                            Stevenson / Jordn
                            Jordan / Stevenson

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                              I expect Taylor will continue to start at hooker. Telea could switch back to the right wing depending on who is at 15.

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                                i think we need to see the super season before we pick a team

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                                  Ardie is not a good captain. Under pressure he plays harder, but gets emotional and makes poor decisions.

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                                    Ardie is not a good captain. Under pressure he plays harder, but gets emotional and makes poor decisions.

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                                    @reprobate and what's the alternative? Scott Barrett who has brain explosions on a regular...

                                    I've been impressed with Ardie's captaincy this year, I actually think he's matured a lot compared to when he started captaining the side a couple years ago (when he was prone to make silly decisions).

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                                      Yes, pros and cons for both Savea and SB as captain.

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                                        ClubRugby.co.nz understands that T Ellison who recently departed the Wellington Lions as their head coach, is taking up a role with the incoming All Blacks coaching team, following another stint with the Crusaders.

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                                          Another reason Ardie Savea should be captain moving forward:

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