All Blacks 2024.. locked
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David Havilli will be starting 10 for the crusaders. No Burke for first part of season
@chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2024:
David Havilli will be starting 10 for the crusaders. No Burke for first part of season
That could be his rebirth considering his style of play. Wasn't fullback his preferred position and he was made to play second five-eighth to accommodate everyone else at the Saders?
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@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024:
@nostrildamus Ethan Blackadder makes about 10 tackles a year and still seems to make lot of people's ABs squads.
But what a 10 they are! And with a hard shoulder too.
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2024:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024:
@nostrildamus Ethan Blackadder makes about 10 tackles a year and still seems to make lot of people's ABs squads.
But what a 10 they are! And with a hard shoulder too.
I don't want to get into a 'is Blackadder at AB level' fight. Nobody is going to win unless we see the new version for more than a few minutes off the bench!
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@chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2024:
David Havilli will be starting 10 for the crusaders. No Burke for first part of season
That could be his rebirth considering his style of play. Wasn't fullback his preferred position and he was made to play second five-eighth to accommodate everyone else at the Saders?
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2024:
@chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2024:
David Havilli will be starting 10 for the crusaders. No Burke for first part of season
That could be his rebirth considering his style of play. Wasn't fullback his preferred position and he was made to play second five-eighth to accommodate everyone else at the Saders?
Beauden, don’t leave us !!
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I'm curious.. of the AB's off to Japan, who are heading for Deans's squad? Japan is a good option for them to recover for a year or so (let's face it it's not as tough a competition as elsewhere) and maybe they can get over some of the injuries that they're struggling with. Then they can come back, all nice and fresh for the next WC. Deans has a rep as getting players up to AB standard. (remember a certain horrible Canterbury fullback who he turned into a not bad AB)
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@canefan he won’t. Every move he make will be heavily scrutinised.
He's all about team culture first and foremost. There won’t be the cliche that is currently there. No leadership group who have more say than assistant coaches with selections.
Beaudy ,Brodie ,cane and Aaron smith. I wonder if that will ever come out. Or who the leak is in the team , who leaked all the team selections.@chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2024:
@canefan he won’t. Every move he make will be heavily scrutinised.
He's all about team culture first and foremost. There won’t be the cliche that is currently there. No leadership group who have more say than assistant coaches with selections.
Beaudy ,Brodie ,cane and Aaron smith. I wonder if that will ever come out. Or who the leak is in the team , who leaked all the team selections.Bahaha. Why are you pretending that there's no Cantab input in there? Poor Whitelock, Scooter, Mo, Cody just sitting in the corner with no input as the North Island clique runs the team. :loudly_crying_face:
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I'm curious.. of the AB's off to Japan, who are heading for Deans's squad? Japan is a good option for them to recover for a year or so (let's face it it's not as tough a competition as elsewhere) and maybe they can get over some of the injuries that they're struggling with. Then they can come back, all nice and fresh for the next WC. Deans has a rep as getting players up to AB standard. (remember a certain horrible Canterbury fullback who he turned into a not bad AB)
@Mainlander said in All Blacks 2024:
I'm curious.. of the AB's off to Japan, who are heading for Deans's squad? Japan is a good option for them to recover for a year or so (let's face it it's not as tough a competition as elsewhere) and maybe they can get over some of the injuries that they're struggling with. Then they can come back, all nice and fresh for the next WC. Deans has a rep as getting players up to AB standard. (remember a certain horrible Canterbury fullback who he turned into a not bad AB)
Jesus, it's a troll fest in this place at the moment.
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
Jordie, Rieko, Proctor, ALB, McLeod.
So midfield sorted too, nice one.
Havili's chances of selection may be better next season.
He can give fullback a shot....
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
Jordie, Rieko, Proctor, ALB, McLeod.
So midfield sorted too, nice one.
Havili's chances of selection may be better next season.
He can give fullback a shot....
He’ll struggle for game time with Will Jordan firmly ensconced there
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I really hope the last few posts are not a sign of things to come on the Fern during Razor's reign.
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I really hope the last few posts are not a sign of things to come on the Fern during Razor's reign.
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024:
I really hope the last few posts are not a sign of things to come on the Fern during Razor's reign.
I don't think @Nepia gets an automatic ban just because Razor is coach now.
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I really hope the last few posts are not a sign of things to come on the Fern during Razor's reign.
@Crazy-Horse So no different to Fozzie's reign?
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
Is Ben Smith right - no drop goals at all under Foster?
That sounds about right. Someone should do a stat, penalties awarded in kickable range, say 40m from goal, % of those that were kicked for goal during the Fozzie reign
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:
Finau has a higher ceiling than Frizell in my view.
If he played 45mins in RWC final I think he would've made at least two tackles
did frizell only make one tackle?!
Successfully, missed one. And they'd bag Akira for making less than 10.
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2024:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:
Finau has a higher ceiling than Frizell in my view.
If he played 45mins in RWC final I think he would've made at least two tackles
did frizell only make one tackle?!
Successfully, missed one. And they'd bag Akira for making less than 10.
So I have no desire to rewatch this game and see for myself, but what did he actually do?
Shouldn't he be getting through a ton of defensive work with Cane off?
Did he hit a lot of rucks or make a ton of ball carries? -
Right, what’s done is done, time to look forward to next year.
I’m excited to see what Razor will do.
Who from the current mob that will still be available, who will he keep, and who has probably played their last game in black?
Someone like @Stargazer might do us a list of who’s actually staying (as I’m going purely off my poor memory below)
Props, we’re pretty well stocked with young talent. Ofa and Laulala’s spots might come under pressure.
Hooker, ST will be number 1, need a couple of young back ups to stand up in SR.
Locks, 2 of our best ever are done. Leaves Barrett as top dog, Lord and Va’ii next in line. We really need a couple of young fullas to put their hands up.
Loosies, Savea and Frizzell gone (if I remember right), I think there will be a question mark over Cane with Razor coming in. There’s a big queue of contenders who’ll need big Super seasons to stake a claim, including Papalii, Ioane, Sotutu, Finau, Jacobson, Grace, Blackadder, Harmon, Hawkes Bay fulla whose name I can’t think of, plus surely a couple of fullas not on the radar just yet.
Halfback, Nuggie leaves a big huuugge hole, obviously Roigard will be number one, but we’re in desperate need of decent back ups. Christie, no thanks.
First 5, DMac, then….. ????? Zarn Sullivan?
Midfield, Jordie, Ioane and ALB lock ins…hopefully the forgotten Chiefs man can make a comeback (can’t even remember his name).
Need to find someone who can bend/break a defensive line.
Wing we will be still well stocked with Telea, Reece, Stevenson, Narawa.
Fullback, Jordan is the obvious pick, with Stevenson and Sullivan lurking.
Really looking forward to seeing what talent Super Rugby throws at us, and what/who Razor will pick.
His first squad naming will be the most interesting squad naming in a bloody long time.
@Gunner Looking forward to seeing the squad next year. Areas I'm most interested in is lock, 6, 10 and 15 most likely it will be Barret/Lord, Finau/Blackadder, McKenzie and the current 14. But you never know super may throw up some surprises you would hope. Maybe A.Ioane will raise his game, maybe new locks like Annandale, Mcwannell or someone else raises their game. Maybe Stevenson makes the 15 jersey his own. Lots to look forward to.
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Enough beating around the bush, here is Razor's first full squad:
Props:
Ethan de Groot
Tamaiti Williams
George Bower
Tyrel Lomax
Fletcher Newell
Tevita MafileoHookers:
Codie Taylor
Samisoni Taukei'aho
George BellLocks:
Scott Barrett
Josh Lord
Quinten Strange
Pari Pari Parkinson? (We're bloody short on locks, but have a gut fell Vaa'i won't make the cut)Loose Forwards:
Dom Gardiner
Samipeni Finau
Dalton Papalii
Sam Cane
Ardie Savea
Cullen Grace
Simon ParkerHalfbacks:
Cam Roigard
Folau Fakatava
Finlay ChristieFirst Fives:
Damian McKenzie
David Havili
Brett CameronMidfielders:
Jordie Barrett
Rieko Ioane
Anton Lienert-Brown
Dallas McLeod
Riley HigginsOutside Backs:
Macca Springer
Mark Telea
Will Jordan
Emoni Narawa
Jacob Ratumaitavuki-KneepkensI'd go with the below:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2024:
Enough beating around the bush, here is Razor's first full squad:
Props:
Ethan de Groot
Tamaiti Williams
George Bower
Tyrel Lomax
Fletcher Newell
Tevita MafileoHookers:
Codie Taylor
Samisoni Taukei'aho
George BellAsafo AumuaLocks:
Scott Barrett
Josh Lord
Quinten Strange
Pari Pari Parkinson? (We're bloody short on locks, but have a gut fell Vaa'i won't make the cut)Loose Forwards:
Dom Gardiner
Samipeni Finau
Dalton Papalii
Sam Cane
Ardie Savea
Cullen Grace
Simon ParkerDevan FlandersHalfbacks:
Cam Roigard
Folau Fakatava
Finlay ChristieFirst Fives:
Damian McKenzie
David Havili
Brett CameronMidfielders:
Jordie Barrett
Rieko Ioane
Anton Lienert-Brown
Dallas McLeod
Riley HigginsBilly ProctorOutside Backs:
Macca SpringerShaun Stevenson
Mark Telea
Will Jordan
Emoni Narawa
Jacob Ratumaitavuki-KneepkensLove or Sullivan before JRK -
@Crazy-Horse So no different to Fozzie's reign?
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024:
@Crazy-Horse So no different to Fozzie's reign?
Yes and no. I might be having selective memory but I don't recall the shit thrown at Fozzie being based around what province he was from.
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@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024:
@Crazy-Horse So no different to Fozzie's reign?
Yes and no. I might be having selective memory but I don't recall the shit thrown at Fozzie being based around what province he was from.
@Crazy-Horse It happens all the time on here both ways and it won't stop anytime soon no matter who's coaching/what players get selected etc.
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Canes could play Jordie at 1st 2nd or center with Higgins at 2nd 5. Esp in case of injury to Proctor or Cameron
Ardie for captain. Maybe
Robertson’s coaching style is far different to outgoing All Blacks coach Ian Foster, characterised by his visionary mindset, in which campaign themes and imagery play a prominent role. Unlike his predecessor, Robertson will embrace new-age coaching methods and challenge the status quo. His desire to be himself and connect with younger generations sets him apart from more conservative elements in rugby administration.
Robertson’s coaching philosophy is expected to be a blend of traditional rugby values with a sense of freedom and lack of inhibition. He aims to make the All Blacks a team that speaks to younger generations both figuratively and literally.As he steps into his role, Robertson brings with him a seasoned coaching team that includes Jason Ryan, Leon MacDonald, Jason Holland, and Scott Hansen. While Robertson has been tight-lipped about his game plan, he has acknowledged the need for a different approach in test rugby compared to Super Rugby but what will his side look like?
Jordie Barrett can play anywhere in the backline it seems - possibly to the detriment of his desire to play in the midfield, but is forming a powerful connection alongside Rieko Ioane. Barrett has a phenomenal skillset and is renowned for his long-range kicking ability and skills under the high ball. He’s quick and strong too, useful in both attack and defence.
