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Hurricanes 2024

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    george33
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    Bottom feeders

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      @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2024:

      @frugby I argue that we are strong up front, shit through the middle and strong out the back. Assuming we are talking about the forwards.

      The backs are a bit hit and miss tbh.

      The Canes tight five outside of the starting front row looks diabolical to me. Good batch of loosies, but lacking a superstar (Could yet be Flanders or Lakai) in the absence of Savea. The starting backline should be a good one, but very little depth. The squad is so imbalanced, cracking midfield, but you wonder whether they would have been better served chucking the bag at a top quality lock.

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      Canes4life
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      @frugby I feel like this is a trend across all our Super sides. The lack of depth is massively worrying and continues to get worse every year with competing comps draining our talent pool.

      There are no signings that will entice extra bums on seats, that’s for sure.

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        @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2024:

        @frugby I argue that we are strong up front, shit through the middle and strong out the back. Assuming we are talking about the forwards.

        The backs are a bit hit and miss tbh.

        The Canes tight five outside of the starting front row looks diabolical to me. Good batch of loosies, but lacking a superstar (Could yet be Flanders or Lakai) in the absence of Savea. The starting backline should be a good one, but very little depth. The squad is so imbalanced, cracking midfield, but you wonder whether they would have been better served chucking the bag at a top quality lock.

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        Canes4life
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        @frugby it seems to me the Canes just don’t have money to throw around. Why would they go for a guy like Grant who is in the MLR instead of investing in a top class lock from somewhere else…

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          @frugby it seems to me the Canes just don’t have money to throw around. Why would they go for a guy like Grant who is in the MLR instead of investing in a top class lock from somewhere else…

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          @Canes4life They could have signed someone like Geoff Cridge. He's better than Grant and won't expect the big money of someone in the NH.

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            @Canes4life They could have signed someone like Geoff Cridge. He's better than Grant and won't expect the big money of someone in the NH.

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            Canes4life
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            @Stargazer could have also signed Sangster, Bird and Delany but they haven’t yet.

            I’m pretty worried that we may lose Delany and Sangster who I saw as two keys to our pack going forward.

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              Think sangster is back

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                Think sangster is back

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                Winger
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                @Cpt-Kumera said in Hurricanes 2024:

                Think sangster is back

                Its Delany I'm hoping will be re-signed.

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                  Sweet so the Canes should have a really decent top 23 and then not much depth under that. Bloody hope we can keep players fit next year.

                  If we sign Delany and Sangster then this is my 23 now. Even though I think Mafileo should start at loose-head I have him as the reserve tight-head to fit both Numia and Rakete-Stones into the 23, plus Mafileo is also a decent loose-head aswell.

                  1. Numia
                  2. Aumua
                  3. Lomax
                  4. Sangster
                  5. Walker-Leawere
                  6. Delany
                  7. Kirifi
                  8. Flanders
                  9. Roigard
                  10. Cameron
                  11. Naholo
                  12. Barrett
                  13. Proctor
                  14. Sullivan
                  15. Love
                  16. O’Reilly
                  17. Rakete-Stones
                  18. Mafileo
                  19. Howden (Delany to cover lock)
                  20. Lakai
                  21. Perenara
                  22. Godfrey (covers 10/15)
                  23. Higgins (covers 12/13/11/14)
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                    Sweet so the Canes should have a really decent top 23 and then not much depth under that. Bloody hope we can keep players fit next year.

                    If we sign Delany and Sangster then this is my 23 now. Even though I think Mafileo should start at loose-head I have him as the reserve tight-head to fit both Numia and Rakete-Stones into the 23, plus Mafileo is also a decent loose-head aswell.

                    1. Numia
                    2. Aumua
                    3. Lomax
                    4. Sangster
                    5. Walker-Leawere
                    6. Delany
                    7. Kirifi
                    8. Flanders
                    9. Roigard
                    10. Cameron
                    11. Naholo
                    12. Barrett
                    13. Proctor
                    14. Sullivan
                    15. Love
                    16. O’Reilly
                    17. Rakete-Stones
                    18. Mafileo
                    19. Howden (Delany to cover lock)
                    20. Lakai
                    21. Perenara
                    22. Godfrey (covers 10/15)
                    23. Higgins (covers 12/13/11/14)
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                      Sweet so the Canes should have a really decent top 23 and then not much depth under that. Bloody hope we can keep players fit next year.

                      If we sign Delany and Sangster then this is my 23 now. Even though I think Mafileo should start at loose-head I have him as the reserve tight-head to fit both Numia and Rakete-Stones into the 23, plus Mafileo is also a decent loose-head aswell.

                      1. Numia
                      2. Aumua
                      3. Lomax
                      4. Sangster
                      5. Walker-Leawere
                      6. Delany
                      7. Kirifi
                      8. Flanders
                      9. Roigard
                      10. Cameron
                      11. Naholo
                      12. Barrett
                      13. Proctor
                      14. Sullivan
                      15. Love
                      16. O’Reilly
                      17. Rakete-Stones
                      18. Mafileo
                      19. Howden (Delany to cover lock)
                      20. Lakai
                      21. Perenara
                      22. Godfrey (covers 10/15)
                      23. Higgins (covers 12/13/11/14)
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                      @Canes4life

                      Looks a lot better than OK side. In fact, if Laidlaw is any good, a top quality head forwards coach is or has been signed (assume they have found someone but can't announce yet) and not too many injuries, then this side could do (much) better than last year

                      Other options are

                      Shields at6
                      Delany at lock
                      Sangster or maybe Taula at 19
                      Barrett covers first
                      Moorby at 22 or starting on the wing

                      Sullivan either starting or at 22

                      Or Moorby on the wing

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                        Sweet so the Canes should have a really decent top 23 and then not much depth under that. Bloody hope we can keep players fit next year.

                        If we sign Delany and Sangster then this is my 23 now. Even though I think Mafileo should start at loose-head I have him as the reserve tight-head to fit both Numia and Rakete-Stones into the 23, plus Mafileo is also a decent loose-head aswell.

                        1. Numia
                        2. Aumua
                        3. Lomax
                        4. Sangster
                        5. Walker-Leawere
                        6. Delany
                        7. Kirifi
                        8. Flanders
                        9. Roigard
                        10. Cameron
                        11. Naholo
                        12. Barrett
                        13. Proctor
                        14. Sullivan
                        15. Love
                        16. O’Reilly
                        17. Rakete-Stones
                        18. Mafileo
                        19. Howden (Delany to cover lock)
                        20. Lakai
                        21. Perenara
                        22. Godfrey (covers 10/15)
                        23. Higgins (covers 12/13/11/14)
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                        @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2024:

                        Sweet so the Canes should have a really decent top 23 and then not much depth under that. Bloody hope we can keep players fit next year.

                        If we sign Delany and Sangster then this is my 23 now. Even though I think Mafileo should start at tight-head I have him as the reserve loose-head to fit both Numia and Rakete-Stones into the 23, plus Mafileo is also a decent loose-head aswell.

                        1. Numia
                        2. Aumua
                        3. Lomax
                        4. Sangster
                        5. Walker-Leawere
                        6. Delany
                        7. Kirifi
                        8. Flanders
                        9. Roigard
                        10. Cameron
                        11. Naholo
                        12. Barrett
                        13. Proctor
                        14. Sullivan
                        15. Love
                        16. O’Reilly
                        17. Rakete-Stones
                        18. Mafileo
                        19. Howden (Delany to cover lock)
                        20. Lakai
                        21. Perenara
                        22. Godfrey (covers 10/15)
                        23. Higgins (covers 12/13/11/14)

                        Mafileo over Lomax?

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                          Sweet so the Canes should have a really decent top 23 and then not much depth under that. Bloody hope we can keep players fit next year.

                          If we sign Delany and Sangster then this is my 23 now. Even though I think Mafileo should start at loose-head I have him as the reserve tight-head to fit both Numia and Rakete-Stones into the 23, plus Mafileo is also a decent loose-head aswell.

                          1. Numia
                          2. Aumua
                          3. Lomax
                          4. Sangster
                          5. Walker-Leawere
                          6. Delany
                          7. Kirifi
                          8. Flanders
                          9. Roigard
                          10. Cameron
                          11. Naholo
                          12. Barrett
                          13. Proctor
                          14. Sullivan
                          15. Love
                          16. O’Reilly
                          17. Rakete-Stones
                          18. Mafileo
                          19. Howden (Delany to cover lock)
                          20. Lakai
                          21. Perenara
                          22. Godfrey (covers 10/15)
                          23. Higgins (covers 12/13/11/14)
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                          george33
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                          @Canes4life take Lomax , Barrett, and possibly Roigard out of the mix it's gonna b along season , loose forwards very average as are locks , backs maybe but won't mix it with the big boys

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                            @Canes4life take Lomax , Barrett, and possibly Roigard out of the mix it's gonna b along season , loose forwards very average as are locks , backs maybe but won't mix it with the big boys

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                            foobaNZ
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                            @george33 take your 3 best players out and it'll be a long season? Well, yea. Thanks for that observation.

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                              @george33 take your 3 best players out and it'll be a long season? Well, yea. Thanks for that observation.

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                              Canes4life
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                              @foobaNZ lol if any team did this it would be a long season. Classic @george33 comment.

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                              • F frugby

                                @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2024:

                                Sweet so the Canes should have a really decent top 23 and then not much depth under that. Bloody hope we can keep players fit next year.

                                If we sign Delany and Sangster then this is my 23 now. Even though I think Mafileo should start at tight-head I have him as the reserve loose-head to fit both Numia and Rakete-Stones into the 23, plus Mafileo is also a decent loose-head aswell.

                                1. Numia
                                2. Aumua
                                3. Lomax
                                4. Sangster
                                5. Walker-Leawere
                                6. Delany
                                7. Kirifi
                                8. Flanders
                                9. Roigard
                                10. Cameron
                                11. Naholo
                                12. Barrett
                                13. Proctor
                                14. Sullivan
                                15. Love
                                16. O’Reilly
                                17. Rakete-Stones
                                18. Mafileo
                                19. Howden (Delany to cover lock)
                                20. Lakai
                                21. Perenara
                                22. Godfrey (covers 10/15)
                                23. Higgins (covers 12/13/11/14)

                                Mafileo over Lomax?

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                                Canes4life
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                                @frugby over Lomax? Lomax is the starting AB tight-head haha.

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                                  @Canes4life take Lomax , Barrett, and possibly Roigard out of the mix it's gonna b along season , loose forwards very average as are locks , backs maybe but won't mix it with the big boys

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                                  Canes4life
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                                  @george33 our depth in the loose fowards is up there with the best. Who is average from the below? Locks is by far our biggest weakness.

                                  Flanders
                                  Kirifi
                                  Lakai
                                  Delany
                                  Shields
                                  Howden

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                                    @Canes4life

                                    Looks a lot better than OK side. In fact, if Laidlaw is any good, a top quality head forwards coach is or has been signed (assume they have found someone but can't announce yet) and not too many injuries, then this side could do (much) better than last year

                                    Other options are

                                    Shields at6
                                    Delany at lock
                                    Sangster or maybe Taula at 19
                                    Barrett covers first
                                    Moorby at 22 or starting on the wing

                                    Sullivan either starting or at 22

                                    Or Moorby on the wing

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                                    Canes4life
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                                    @Winger our best side (if selected) can match it with anyone IMO. The test will be when some of those guys are rested or are injured. I feel like this is the case with most teams now though. There doesn’t seem to be the strong underbelly of depth anymore. Which is why a team like the Crusaders are having to sign the likes of Leigh Half-Penny and Ryan Crotty for example.

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                                    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                      @frugby over Lomax? Lomax is the starting AB tight-head haha.

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                                      @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2024:

                                      @frugby over Lomax? Lomax is the starting AB tight-head haha.

                                      You said start Mafileo at tighthead?

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                                        @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2024:

                                        @frugby over Lomax? Lomax is the starting AB tight-head haha.

                                        You said start Mafileo at tighthead?

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                                        @frugby sorry meant loose-head. Fixed above.

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                                          @george33 our depth in the loose fowards is up there with the best. Who is average from the below? Locks is by far our biggest weakness.

                                          Flanders
                                          Kirifi
                                          Lakai
                                          Delany
                                          Shields
                                          Howden

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                                          george33
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                                          @Canes4life well all of them really,good luck hurricanes

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