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  • MajorPomM MajorPom

    @canefan said in Formula 1:

    It's a travesty that he doesn't get to drive next year. But F1 is not about ability, it's all about the money

    Not sure that's true. Yes, there are a few there on money, but the best drivers in the world are in F1, no question.

    Brendon Hartley has had a huge amount of success but he was around a second a lap slower than his team mate.

    Lawson wlll get a permanent F1 drive for sure based on his Alpha Tauri drives.

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    @MajorRage said in Formula 1:

    Not sure that's true. Yes, there are a few there on money, but the best drivers in the world are in F1, no question.

    Just seen this and - not sure that's true.

    Also - yes - question. Some of the best drivers, but some dross as well.

    Driver selection is largely about money from what I see. Sponsorship, fan numbers, nationality, etc. Some incredibly talented drivers that never even get a look in. Pretty tough for someone with no real money, from a small country, that doesn't have a home GP to get a gig, no matter how good they are. Dixon is (on numbers) the second-best Indy car driver in history and he got one test drive session in F1 (IIRC), so it appeared that he wanted a crack. It is possible that he was so far off that they didn't pursue it, but highly unlikely.

    I hope Lawson gets a look in as he is clearly gifted. Red Bull are also a brand that associates itself with the best, and a "winners" attitude, so there is hope.

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      Where do we disagree?

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        I don’t think “the best drivers in the world are in F1, no question”.

        I question it.

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          I don’t think “the best drivers in the world are in F1, no question”.

          I question it.

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          @Snowy said in Formula 1:

          I don’t think “the best drivers in the world are in F1, no question”.

          I question it.

          Especially the ones that pay the teams to be there

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            @Snowy said in Formula 1:

            I don’t think “the best drivers in the world are in F1, no question”.

            I question it.

            Especially the ones that pay the teams to be there

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            @Machpants said in Formula 1:

            @Snowy said in Formula 1:

            I don’t think “the best drivers in the world are in F1, no question”.

            I question it.

            Especially the ones that pay the teams to be there

            Did you read my entire post?

            I even say the above.

            Sargent snd Stroll are leagues below Verstappen and co. But that doesn’t mean the best drivers aren’t in F1.

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              @MajorRage It’s semantics really but a few of the best drivers are in formula one I reckon. A shame that what should be the pinnacle of motor sport doesn’t have all of the best drivers and is diluted because of it. My opinion of course.

              Would be fascinating to see a guy like SVG get a go. His NASCAR debut was amazing. McLaughlin slotted into an open wheeler easy enough. Armstrong is bloody good for a youngster and that’s just the kiwis. They only have talent unfortunately and not the other requirements to get a F1 job.

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                Max wins again. The highlight was the Alonso v Perez battle

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                  I swear LeClerc made a deal with the devil: Skill for luck.

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                    https://twitter.com/F1/status/1721271172241691034?s=20

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                      Alonso defended brilliantly before Perez passed him on the second to last lap. Alonso got the position back on the last lap

                      ..and this was Alonso gap over Perez at the chequered flag: 0.053s

                      https://twitter.com/F1/status/1721250500383850697?s=20

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                        Alonso is a monster and it's so sad that apart from a couple of years a Renault he's never been in the best car in the field.

                        The work he did for Ferrari during the Vettel era in particular was outstanding - the red bull and the McLaren were generally better cars, and lotus and mercedes were about equivalent but he just got everything he could from it and was in title battles that he had no business being in.

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                          A shit track for what will be the most American involvement in F1 to date. <- That's not an endorsement.

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                            A shit track for what will be the most American involvement in F1 to date. <- That's not an endorsement.

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                            @antipodean Any idea what the drivers think of it?

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                              A Las Vegas street race was an awful idea, the city blocks are massive and laid out in a grid. Honestly sometimes I feel like the management are no incompetent the sport deserves to die.

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                                A Las Vegas street race was an awful idea, the city blocks are massive and laid out in a grid. Honestly sometimes I feel like the management are no incompetent the sport deserves to die.

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                                @Cyclops said in Formula 1:

                                A Las Vegas street race was an awful idea, the city blocks are massive and laid out in a grid. Honestly sometimes I feel like the management are no incompetent the sport deserves to die.

                                For the fans, I'd argue it's the best run sport in the world, by a country mile. Coverage, pundits, comms, all the other media around it is brilliantly entertaining.

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                                  @Cyclops said in Formula 1:

                                  A Las Vegas street race was an awful idea, the city blocks are massive and laid out in a grid. Honestly sometimes I feel like the management are no incompetent the sport deserves to die.

                                  For the fans, I'd argue it's the best run sport in the world, by a country mile. Coverage, pundits, comms, all the other media around it is brilliantly entertaining.

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                                  @Bones said in Formula 1:

                                  @Cyclops said in Formula 1:

                                  A Las Vegas street race was an awful idea, the city blocks are massive and laid out in a grid. Honestly sometimes I feel like the management are no incompetent the sport deserves to die.

                                  For the fans, I'd argue it's the best run sport in the world, by a country mile. Coverage, pundits, comms, all the other media around it is brilliantly entertaining.

                                  Agree on all fronts on this - it really is superbly well done & when you attend a race, it's the same.

                                  However, I have little time for the US GP races. You just get the feeling that the actual race is secondary to the event.

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                                  • MajorPomM MajorPom

                                    @Bones said in Formula 1:

                                    @Cyclops said in Formula 1:

                                    A Las Vegas street race was an awful idea, the city blocks are massive and laid out in a grid. Honestly sometimes I feel like the management are no incompetent the sport deserves to die.

                                    For the fans, I'd argue it's the best run sport in the world, by a country mile. Coverage, pundits, comms, all the other media around it is brilliantly entertaining.

                                    Agree on all fronts on this - it really is superbly well done & when you attend a race, it's the same.

                                    However, I have little time for the US GP races. You just get the feeling that the actual race is secondary to the event.

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                                    @MajorRage said in Formula 1:

                                    @Bones said in Formula 1:

                                    @Cyclops said in Formula 1:

                                    A Las Vegas street race was an awful idea, the city blocks are massive and laid out in a grid. Honestly sometimes I feel like the management are no incompetent the sport deserves to die.

                                    For the fans, I'd argue it's the best run sport in the world, by a country mile. Coverage, pundits, comms, all the other media around it is brilliantly entertaining.

                                    Agree on all fronts on this - it really is superbly well done & when you attend a race, it's the same.

                                    However, I have little time for the US GP races sport. You just get the feeling that the actual race sport is secondary to the event.

                                    There you go, I’ve encapsulated most US sport for you.

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                                      Well this was as bad as you'd expect.

                                      Max wasn't impressed
                                      https://www.pitpass.com/76664/Verstappen-unimpressed-by-Las-Vegas

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                                        Well this was as bad as you'd expect.

                                        Max wasn't impressed
                                        https://www.pitpass.com/76664/Verstappen-unimpressed-by-Las-Vegas

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                                        @antipodean max has always hated the bullshit so he’s not the best judge …

                                        But I agree with him so far!

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                                          Then there's the concerns the tyres won't be able to get enough temperature into them given the forecast is about 10°

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