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  • FrankF Offline
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    Havili's best bet to get a starting place in the ABs is at 10.
    Not sure how he'd game time there at Super level though.

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    • FrankF Frank

      Havili's best bet to get a starting place in the ABs is at 10.
      Not sure how he'd game time there at Super level though.

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      @Frank said in All Blacks 2024:

      Havili's best bet to get a starting place in the ABs is at 10.
      Not sure how he'd game time there at Super level though.

      Crusaders seem pretty flush with proven midfielders and fullbacks, not so much at ten.

      Good vision, excellent handling and a big boot, with very decent pace. I can't see why not.

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        @cgrant

        I think we are ok there

        We have international experience available at 2, 4, 6 and 10.

        I think developing that international quality lock alongside Scooter is the biggest challenge.

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        @DaGrubster agreed a big concern especially when playing the tier 1 sides.

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        • BonesB Bones

          @Frank said in All Blacks 2024:

          Havili's best bet to get a starting place in the ABs is at 10.
          Not sure how he'd game time there at Super level though.

          Crusaders seem pretty flush with proven midfielders and fullbacks, not so much at ten.

          Good vision, excellent handling and a big boot, with very decent pace. I can't see why not.

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          @Bones would love to see it, I don't think he is an international quality 12 but perhaps he could convert himself into a decent 10 especially with the lack of experience we have there now. There are too many decent midfielders and I don't think he is the answer especially with most teams for a tank at 12 like Aki, Tuilagi, De Allende, French guy to name a few.

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          • BonesB Bones

            @Frank said in All Blacks 2024:

            Havili's best bet to get a starting place in the ABs is at 10.
            Not sure how he'd game time there at Super level though.

            Crusaders seem pretty flush with proven midfielders and fullbacks, not so much at ten.

            Good vision, excellent handling and a big boot, with very decent pace. I can't see why not.

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            @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

            @Frank said in All Blacks 2024:

            Havili's best bet to get a starting place in the ABs is at 10.
            Not sure how he'd game time there at Super level though.

            Crusaders seem pretty flush with proven midfielders and fullbacks, not so much at ten.

            Good vision, excellent handling and a big boot, with very decent pace. I can't see why not.

            If Beauden can do it, Havili can.

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            • BonesB Bones

              @Frank said in All Blacks 2024:

              Havili's best bet to get a starting place in the ABs is at 10.
              Not sure how he'd game time there at Super level though.

              Crusaders seem pretty flush with proven midfielders and fullbacks, not so much at ten.

              Good vision, excellent handling and a big boot, with very decent pace. I can't see why not.

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              @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

              @Frank said in All Blacks 2024:

              Havili's best bet to get a starting place in the ABs is at 10.
              Not sure how he'd game time there at Super level though.

              Good vision, excellent handling and a big boot, with very decent pace. I can't see why not.

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                If we're discussing an incredibly average 12 as the answer to the AB 10 slot, then the argument that NZ rugby has all the cattle it needs is seriously fucked.

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                • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                  If we're discussing an incredibly average 12 as the answer to the AB 10 slot, then the argument that NZ rugby has all the cattle it needs is seriously fucked.

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                  @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024:

                  If we're discussing an incredibly average 12 as the answer to the AB 10 slot, then the argument that NZ rugby has all the cattle it needs is seriously fucked.

                  Except we're not.

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                  • BonesB Bones

                    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024:

                    If we're discussing an incredibly average 12 as the answer to the AB 10 slot, then the argument that NZ rugby has all the cattle it needs is seriously fucked.

                    Except we're not.

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                    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

                    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024:

                    If we're discussing an incredibly average 12 as the answer to the AB 10 slot, then the argument that NZ rugby has all the cattle it needs is seriously fucked.

                    Except we're not.

                    Then I'm another confused by the context.

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                    • S SBW1

                      @george33 Ruben Love, Zarn Sullivan, Alex Harford the possibility of converting Jordie and possibly Dave Havilli. A few young ones coming up, we will have to wait and see. Even playing a halfback like Roigard.

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                      @SBW1 sounds like Perofeta will b getting the first start in the 10 jersey, Zarn I'm sure will get time also until Beauden returns

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                      • antipodeanA antipodean

                        @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

                        @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024:

                        If we're discussing an incredibly average 12 as the answer to the AB 10 slot, then the argument that NZ rugby has all the cattle it needs is seriously fucked.

                        Except we're not.

                        Then I'm another confused by the context.

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                        @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                        @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

                        @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024:

                        If we're discussing an incredibly average 12 as the answer to the AB 10 slot, then the argument that NZ rugby has all the cattle it needs is seriously fucked.

                        Except we're not.

                        Then I'm another confused by the context.

                        So you also were reading a mystery conversation discussing an incredibly average twelve as the answer at ten? Seems those posts were deleted before I got to read them.

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                        • BonesB Bones

                          @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

                          @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024:

                          If we're discussing an incredibly average 12 as the answer to the AB 10 slot, then the argument that NZ rugby has all the cattle it needs is seriously fucked.

                          Except we're not.

                          Then I'm another confused by the context.

                          So you also were reading a mystery conversation discussing an incredibly average twelve as the answer at ten? Seems those posts were deleted before I got to read them.

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                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

                          @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

                          @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024:

                          If we're discussing an incredibly average 12 as the answer to the AB 10 slot, then the argument that NZ rugby has all the cattle it needs is seriously fucked.

                          Except we're not.

                          Then I'm another confused by the context.

                          So you also were reading a mystery conversation discussing an incredibly average twelve as the answer at ten? Seems those posts were deleted before I got to read them.

                          I think you read them Mrs Havili.

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                          • antipodeanA antipodean

                            @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

                            @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                            @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

                            @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024:

                            If we're discussing an incredibly average 12 as the answer to the AB 10 slot, then the argument that NZ rugby has all the cattle it needs is seriously fucked.

                            Except we're not.

                            Then I'm another confused by the context.

                            So you also were reading a mystery conversation discussing an incredibly average twelve as the answer at ten? Seems those posts were deleted before I got to read them.

                            I think you read them Mrs Havili.

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                            @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                            @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

                            @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                            @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

                            @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024:

                            If we're discussing an incredibly average 12 as the answer to the AB 10 slot, then the argument that NZ rugby has all the cattle it needs is seriously fucked.

                            Except we're not.

                            Then I'm another confused by the context.

                            So you also were reading a mystery conversation discussing an incredibly average twelve as the answer at ten? Seems those posts were deleted before I got to read them.

                            I think you read them Mrs Havili.

                            Nah I only saw one about Havili's chances of getting time at ten for the crusaders and responded to that. Feel free to repost the others for us though, Mr Knobjockey.

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                            • BonesB Bones

                              @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                              @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

                              @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                              @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

                              @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024:

                              If we're discussing an incredibly average 12 as the answer to the AB 10 slot, then the argument that NZ rugby has all the cattle it needs is seriously fucked.

                              Except we're not.

                              Then I'm another confused by the context.

                              So you also were reading a mystery conversation discussing an incredibly average twelve as the answer at ten? Seems those posts were deleted before I got to read them.

                              I think you read them Mrs Havili.

                              Nah I only saw one about Havili's chances of getting time at ten for the crusaders and responded to that. Feel free to repost the others for us though, Mr Knobjockey.

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                              @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

                              @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                              @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

                              @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                              @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

                              @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024:

                              If we're discussing an incredibly average 12 as the answer to the AB 10 slot, then the argument that NZ rugby has all the cattle it needs is seriously fucked.

                              Except we're not.

                              Then I'm another confused by the context.

                              So you also were reading a mystery conversation discussing an incredibly average twelve as the answer at ten? Seems those posts were deleted before I got to read them.

                              I think you read them Mrs Havili.

                              Nah I only saw one about Havili's chances of getting time at ten for the crusaders and responded to that. Feel free to repost the others for us though, Mr Knobjockey.

                              In a thread titled "All Blacks 2024", you quoted the following: Havili's best bet to get a starting place in the ABs is at 10.

                              alt text

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                              • antipodeanA antipodean

                                @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

                                @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                                @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

                                @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                                @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

                                @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024:

                                If we're discussing an incredibly average 12 as the answer to the AB 10 slot, then the argument that NZ rugby has all the cattle it needs is seriously fucked.

                                Except we're not.

                                Then I'm another confused by the context.

                                So you also were reading a mystery conversation discussing an incredibly average twelve as the answer at ten? Seems those posts were deleted before I got to read them.

                                I think you read them Mrs Havili.

                                Nah I only saw one about Havili's chances of getting time at ten for the crusaders and responded to that. Feel free to repost the others for us though, Mr Knobjockey.

                                In a thread titled "All Blacks 2024", you quoted the following: Havili's best bet to get a starting place in the ABs is at 10.

                                alt text

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                                @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                                @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

                                @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                                @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

                                @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                                @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

                                @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024:

                                If we're discussing an incredibly average 12 as the answer to the AB 10 slot, then the argument that NZ rugby has all the cattle it needs is seriously fucked.

                                Except we're not.

                                Then I'm another confused by the context.

                                So you also were reading a mystery conversation discussing an incredibly average twelve as the answer at ten? Seems those posts were deleted before I got to read them.

                                I think you read them Mrs Havili.

                                Nah I only saw one about Havili's chances of getting time at ten for the crusaders and responded to that. Feel free to repost the others for us though, Mr Knobjockey.

                                In a thread titled "All Blacks 2024", you quoted the following: Havili's best bet to get a starting place in the ABs is at 10.

                                alt text

                                You are making such a great point, really well thought out and articulated.

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                                  Sorry been busy today and late to the argument.

                                  So we’re happy with Havilli at 10 for the Crusaders as long as he’s no where near there for the ABs. Is that it ?

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                                  • MN5M MN5

                                    Sorry been busy today and late to the argument.

                                    So we’re happy with Havilli at 10 for the Crusaders as long as he’s no where near there for the ABs. Is that it ?

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                                    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:

                                    So we’re happy with Havilli at 10 for the Crusaders as long as he’s no where near there for the ABs. Is that it ?

                                    Yeah I'm generally more interested in see how a player plays before writing them off. It tends to make it easier to judge.

                                    Unless it's Zach Guildford.

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                                      @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:

                                      So we’re happy with Havilli at 10 for the Crusaders as long as he’s no where near there for the ABs. Is that it ?

                                      Yeah I'm generally more interested in see how a player plays before writing them off. It tends to make it easier to judge.

                                      Unless it's Zach Guildford.

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                                      @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

                                      @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:

                                      So we’re happy with Havilli at 10 for the Crusaders as long as he’s no where near there for the ABs. Is that it ?

                                      Yeah I'm generally more interested in see how a player plays before writing them off. It tends to make it easier to judge.

                                      Unless it's Zach Guildford.

                                      Is he planning on a comeback ?

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                                        @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

                                        @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:

                                        So we’re happy with Havilli at 10 for the Crusaders as long as he’s no where near there for the ABs. Is that it ?

                                        Yeah I'm generally more interested in see how a player plays before writing them off. It tends to make it easier to judge.

                                        Unless it's Zach Guildford.

                                        Is he planning on a comeback ?

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                                        Bones
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                                        @MN5 maybe for the rapa bogans.

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                                          Hope Papalli get first crack at the number 7 jersey. Was watching the highlights from the end of year tour 2022 and he was immense. I wonder if it cost us with Fozzie not picking him and sticking with Cane as captain, red card aside? He was good in the Irish game but pretty average in every other game. Personally I think a backrow of Papalli, Savea and Blackadder would have got us across the line against the Boks, cards aside.

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