Golf
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@MajorRage said in Golf:
So winning means nothing to you in sport, and a stronger distribution of cash to the top names, regardless of how they play, means everything.
You used to be one of my favourite posters. What happened? This is just straw man nonsense.
The vast majority of money is still distributed as event prizemoney. If a top player isn't winning they will fall down the pecking order as fast as anyone else. And by and large that's how it should be.
But faced with the existential threat of LIV they upped their contribution to the top players, and this was how they decided to do it.
@barbarian said in Golf:
@MajorRage said in Golf:
So winning means nothing to you in sport, and a stronger distribution of cash to the top names, regardless of how they play, means everything.
You used to be one of my favourite posters. What happened? This is just straw man nonsense.
You had bad taste in posters then.
I hate the LIV model and it brings out the worst in me. And your comment was you’d rather your cash went to the player you came to watch, not the bloke you don’t know. Is that a path of winning not being relevant? I think it is.
The vast majority of money is still distributed as event prizemoney. If a top player isn't winning they will fall down the pecking order as fast as anyone else. And by and large that's how it should be.
I don’t think it is. Majority yes, but not vast. Does any tournament pay 15mm to the winner? Did Rory even win 15mm in money this year.
But faced with the existential threat of LIV they upped their contribution to the top players, and this was how they decided to do it.
Actually they merged with them.
I find the whole thing sickening. Sad but true given I used to watch probably 20 tournaments a year on Sunday nights. Since all this, I’ve watched the Masters and that’s it.
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Probably the only golf I have watched is LIV, the Majors and the Ryder Cup. Haven't watched a PGA tour event in years. I think most of the tournaments are boring. LIV is a new model and it will be interesting to see what happens in the upcoming year. I know the new demographics of golfers are less country club like and more average guy in the street type and I suspect they would be more attracted to the tunes, entertainment and beer holes that LIV provides. Recruitment is the big thing for LIV but taking golf around the world is a big positive. All in all I would rather play than watch anyway.
PS. Rory is annoying.
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I don't disagree broughie.
I hate LIV though. There's a good idea in there somewhere - I like team golf, I like taking the game out of the US - but the product on TV is unwatchable. There's no juice. It's an exhibition.
Looks like a tonne of fun to be at the course, but realistically that's not going to sustain it long term.
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@barbarian said in Golf:
@MajorRage said in Golf:
So winning means nothing to you in sport, and a stronger distribution of cash to the top names, regardless of how they play, means everything.
You used to be one of my favourite posters. What happened? This is just straw man nonsense.
You had bad taste in posters then.
I hate the LIV model and it brings out the worst in me. And your comment was you’d rather your cash went to the player you came to watch, not the bloke you don’t know. Is that a path of winning not being relevant? I think it is.
The vast majority of money is still distributed as event prizemoney. If a top player isn't winning they will fall down the pecking order as fast as anyone else. And by and large that's how it should be.
I don’t think it is. Majority yes, but not vast. Does any tournament pay 15mm to the winner? Did Rory even win 15mm in money this year.
But faced with the existential threat of LIV they upped their contribution to the top players, and this was how they decided to do it.
Actually they merged with them.
I find the whole thing sickening. Sad but true given I used to watch probably 20 tournaments a year on Sunday nights. Since all this, I’ve watched the Masters and that’s it.
@MajorRage said in Golf:
Actually they merged with them.
I find the whole thing sickening. Sad but true given I used to watch probably 20 tournaments a year on Sunday nights. Since all this, I’ve watched the Masters and that’s it.
Yeah no disagreement here. The whole thing is a mess and the PGA Tour are hypocrites of the highest order for pursuing a merger.
The only loser in all of this are the fans.
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@canefan $600m US, hard to knock back...even if you likely already have 10s of.mill in the bank
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@canefan anyone would take that money, especially considering he can still play in the majors.
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It just makes me sad. How much money is enough to people? I can't be happy for Rahm, or anyone here.
The real losers, as always, are golf fans. As the landscape fractures further and for the worse.
@barbarian more so with the ball roll back rule...
It's much like many elite sport though isnt it, obscene sums of money on offer.
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@barbarian more so with the ball roll back rule...
It's much like many elite sport though isnt it, obscene sums of money on offer.
@taniwharugby said in Golf:
It's much like many elite sport though isnt it, obscene sums of money on offer.
At least with other sports the obscene sums are somewhat commensurate with added global interest.
Golf's pay packets are now so wildly out of sync with the actual popularity of the athletes its insane.
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The facts...money talks.
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I don't disagree broughie.
I hate LIV though. There's a good idea in there somewhere - I like team golf, I like taking the game out of the US - but the product on TV is unwatchable. There's no juice. It's an exhibition.
Looks like a tonne of fun to be at the course, but realistically that's not going to sustain it long term.
@barbarian said in Golf:
I don't disagree broughie.
I hate LIV though. There's a good idea in there somewhere - I like team golf, I like taking the game out of the US - but the product on TV is unwatchable. There's no juice. It's an exhibition.
Looks like a tonne of fun to be at the course, but realistically that's not going to sustain it long term.
I say it is in its' infancy. Give it time.
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It just makes me sad. How much money is enough to people? I can't be happy for Rahm, or anyone here.
The real losers, as always, are golf fans. As the landscape fractures further and for the worse.
@barbarian Well at least the money is coming from PIF but tournament costs etc will go up. It will reach a point when the average guy can't pay the price of admission and economics will step in.
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@canefan Rory is going to have a hard time deciding who to direct his anger at. I guess the Irish always end up gettiing the short end of the stick and my mums maiden name is Galway.
@canefan Rory is going to have a hard time deciding who to direct his anger at. I guess the Irish always end up gettiing the short end of the stick and my mums maiden name is Galway.
Yeah, the guy took it way too personal and he lost out. I notice he's stated Rahm must play RC. A bit of a different message to that for the other (mainly US) golfers who already defected
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@canefan Rory is going to have a hard time deciding who to direct his anger at. I guess the Irish always end up gettiing the short end of the stick and my mums maiden name is Galway.
Yeah, the guy took it way too personal and he lost out. I notice he's stated Rahm must play RC. A bit of a different message to that for the other (mainly US) golfers who already defected
@canefan I think he was manipulated into being thier puppet to an extent, and he bought it hook line and sinker.
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@canefan I think he was manipulated into being thier puppet to an extent, and he bought it hook line and sinker.
