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  • barbarianB Offline
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    It just makes me sad. How much money is enough to people? I can't be happy for Rahm, or anyone here.

    The real losers, as always, are golf fans. As the landscape fractures further and for the worse.

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    • barbarianB barbarian

      It just makes me sad. How much money is enough to people? I can't be happy for Rahm, or anyone here.

      The real losers, as always, are golf fans. As the landscape fractures further and for the worse.

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      @barbarian more so with the ball roll back rule...

      It's much like many elite sport though isnt it, obscene sums of money on offer.

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      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

        @barbarian more so with the ball roll back rule...

        It's much like many elite sport though isnt it, obscene sums of money on offer.

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        @taniwharugby said in Golf:

        It's much like many elite sport though isnt it, obscene sums of money on offer.

        At least with other sports the obscene sums are somewhat commensurate with added global interest.

        Golf's pay packets are now so wildly out of sync with the actual popularity of the athletes its insane.

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          The facts...money talks.

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          • MajorPomM Offline
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            This could even be the Masters for me now. Totally and utterly devoid of any interest in the professional version of this sport.

            I don't blame Rahm, I'd do it all day if I was him.

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              #384

              Honest response about Rahm joining LIV from a former PGA tour player.

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              • barbarianB barbarian

                I don't disagree broughie.

                I hate LIV though. There's a good idea in there somewhere - I like team golf, I like taking the game out of the US - but the product on TV is unwatchable. There's no juice. It's an exhibition.

                Looks like a tonne of fun to be at the course, but realistically that's not going to sustain it long term.

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                @barbarian said in Golf:

                I don't disagree broughie.

                I hate LIV though. There's a good idea in there somewhere - I like team golf, I like taking the game out of the US - but the product on TV is unwatchable. There's no juice. It's an exhibition.

                Looks like a tonne of fun to be at the course, but realistically that's not going to sustain it long term.

                I say it is in its' infancy. Give it time.

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                • canefanC canefan

                  John Rahm is reportedly set to move to LIV for a shit ton of money. Rory will be livid

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                  @canefan Rory is going to have a hard time deciding who to direct his anger at. I guess the Irish always end up gettiing the short end of the stick and my mums maiden name is Galway.

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                  • barbarianB barbarian

                    It just makes me sad. How much money is enough to people? I can't be happy for Rahm, or anyone here.

                    The real losers, as always, are golf fans. As the landscape fractures further and for the worse.

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                    @barbarian Well at least the money is coming from PIF but tournament costs etc will go up. It will reach a point when the average guy can't pay the price of admission and economics will step in.

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                    • broughieB broughie

                      @canefan Rory is going to have a hard time deciding who to direct his anger at. I guess the Irish always end up gettiing the short end of the stick and my mums maiden name is Galway.

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                      @broughie said in Golf:

                      @canefan Rory is going to have a hard time deciding who to direct his anger at. I guess the Irish always end up gettiing the short end of the stick and my mums maiden name is Galway.

                      Yeah, the guy took it way too personal and he lost out. I notice he's stated Rahm must play RC. A bit of a different message to that for the other (mainly US) golfers who already defected

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                      • canefanC canefan

                        @broughie said in Golf:

                        @canefan Rory is going to have a hard time deciding who to direct his anger at. I guess the Irish always end up gettiing the short end of the stick and my mums maiden name is Galway.

                        Yeah, the guy took it way too personal and he lost out. I notice he's stated Rahm must play RC. A bit of a different message to that for the other (mainly US) golfers who already defected

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                        @canefan I think he was manipulated into being thier puppet to an extent, and he bought it hook line and sinker.

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                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                          @canefan I think he was manipulated into being thier puppet to an extent, and he bought it hook line and sinker.

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                          @taniwharugby He should have realised the PGA are as much to blame as anyone, and hide behind so called custodianship of the game when in actual fact they were the cause of the problem

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                          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                            @canefan I think he was manipulated into being thier puppet to an extent, and he bought it hook line and sinker.

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                            @taniwharugby said in Golf:

                            @canefan I think he was manipulated into being thier puppet to an extent, and he bought it hook line and sinker.

                            That will teach him from acting from a supposed moral high ground.

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                              @taniwharugby said in Golf:

                              @canefan I think he was manipulated into being thier puppet to an extent, and he bought it hook line and sinker.

                              That will teach him from acting from a supposed moral high ground.

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                              @broughie said in Golf:

                              @taniwharugby said in Golf:

                              @canefan I think he was manipulated into being thier puppet to an extent, and he bought it hook line and sinker.

                              That will teach him from acting from a supposed moral high ground.

                              Should have known better, it was always about the money

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                              • canefanC canefan

                                @taniwharugby He should have realised the PGA are as much to blame as anyone, and hide behind so called custodianship of the game when in actual fact they were the cause of the problem

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                                #393

                                @canefan yea I saw a tweet from Westwood I think pointing that out, particularly years back when they got more TV money, increased purses and made that tour the preferred one, now they have competition for eyeballs and can't really compete dollarwise, they taken thier toy (OGWR)

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                                • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                  @canefan yea I saw a tweet from Westwood I think pointing that out, particularly years back when they got more TV money, increased purses and made that tour the preferred one, now they have competition for eyeballs and can't really compete dollarwise, they taken thier toy (OGWR)

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                                  @taniwharugby IIRC the players have quietly voiced concerns about the length of schedule, and prize money for some time. The PGA did nothing, which opened the door for LIV. Funny that many of the innovations introduced by LIV have been taken up in some form or another by the PGA

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                                    #395

                                    Great win by Lydia Ko and Jason Day in the GT Invitational this morning. Cool tournament setup actually and a pretty enjoyable watch. Day 1 was a scramble, Day 2 best ball, and then today's final round was a modified best ball where they play each others tee shots.

                                    Nice to see Lydia playing a bit better too. Expected a huge year from her but its been super disappointing after getting off to a pretty good start.

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                                      #396

                                      I thought this was a great article about this whole mess.

                                      https://nolayingup.com/blog/jon-rahm-the-rollback-and-an-entire-reevaluation

                                      Particularly this par:

                                      I will almost certainly continue to follow professional golf — it is a big part of my job, after all — but I am not so sure about the dozens of people I play with regularly. They aren’t deeply entrenched in the pointless daily arguments of Golf Twitter. They don’t really care about OWGR points and certainly couldn’t name members of the 4 Aces. They like to squeeze in rounds when they can, have fun and give each other shit, drink a few beers during or after a round, and flip on football when they’re finished. It’s not a choice between supporting the PGA Tour or LIV, it’s a decision to ignore both. They might gamble a little, but a light bulb has gone off recently, and many fans have begun to wake up to the idea that almost no one involved in this Corporate Game of Thrones thinks about them at all.

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                                        #397

                                        That's modern elite sport in a nutshell

                                        Some sports are better at the lip service "for the fans" but there is an enormous disconnect between guys making not even enormous amounts of money, and the schmucks on the other side of the fence.

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                                          Just realised why I am slow, always get good advice on here. I a real hacker who has somehow got the bug for the game lately, and as getting on , I am a little worried about holding up boys at club during comps etc. Now everyone say no nworries, but by the end of 18 holes I struggling a bit walking at reasonably speed, so looking for a ride on something, as I may stick around playing for a few years now I have started.
                                          The question is has anyone seen anyone using these fourstar golf cruisers around their course or know anyone who has one, to tell me if they any good?
                                          Last couple of weeks have been using a mates little moped and towed my traundler around, great fun, but if I get a moped won't fit in car, and don't have room for trailer etc. I know fourstar will fold down and fit in car etc, just don't know anyone who got one.

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