All Blacks 2024
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Some interesting and thought-provoking insights from Mr Kitshoff on the benefits of allowing overseas players in the Boks. Makes you wonder if it would benefit the AB's
Steven Kitshoff interview: South Africa encourage us to go abroad – unlike England
Exclusive: Double World Cup winner is yet to earn a win with Ulster and comes up against his Springbok captain Siya Kolisi this weekend
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@Victor-Meldrew senior ABs do get a sabbatical. Maybe expand on that to allow them to play overseas for a couple of years and still be available for AB selection, but I wouldn't want to see anything more than that.
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@Bones perhaps for known quantities; those who are near certs to start and have 50 caps or something like that...
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@antipodean yeah it doesn't set their selection in stone, but say Smith, Whitelock had been playing overseas last couple of years, they'd still be invaluable.
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@antipodean I thought you had to have a certain number of caps to get a sabbatical anyway?
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Sir Wayne Smith explains new 'crow's nest' role with All Blacks and Black Ferns
A Rugby World Cup winner with both the Black Ferns and All Blacks, Sir Wayne Smith landed a new role with New Zealand Rugby in 2023.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:
@Bones perhaps for known quantities; those who are near certs to start and have 50 caps or something like that...
Some sort of set criteria could be really good. Provide an incentive and ensures the more experienced players get to absorb any knowledge and can share ir
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:
@antipodean I thought you had to have a certain number of caps to get a sabbatical anyway?
I suspect that you are correct. Since it doesn't seem to happen very often I can't recall a pattern other than NZR believe certain players are worth extending this opportunity to retain them.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:
@antipodean I thought you had to have a certain number of caps to get a sabbatical anyway?
I suspect that you are correct. Since it doesn't seem to happen very often I can't recall a pattern other than NZR believe certain players are worth extending this opportunity to retain them.
Think it's probably 50/50 as to whether it's been successful at AB level so far too - but probably a lot more valuable lower at lower levels.
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@Victor-Meldrew I don't think it would work for the ABs, bc:
- The ABs play an uptempo/high octane style while in Europe they play a slower game. Much more suited to SA.
- The European game is great for props and locks mostly. Otoh, Richie Arnold looked good in France and turned out to be awful for the Wallabies.
- Fitness levels will be a problem for the ABs management. For example, even the top league in Europe (France's Top14) has a huge variance in focus on fitness from club to club.
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@Tim What on Earth are NZR going to do when Wayne really does pack it in? He has been incredible in this type of role across NZ rugby.
Who is the next big brain in NZ? I wonder if Razor will ultimately take on this role once his head coaching days are behind him. WS will be mentoring him, so it isn't inconceivable.
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@Canes4life I bloody impressed with Loves work and doing extras mate. That is the kind of commitment I want to see , and now I really on the Love wagon and hope he reaps the rewards. I always say the very good ones are the ones who do all these extras.
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@stodders said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:
What on Earth are NZR going to do when Wayne really does pack it in?
They should start looking for his replacement now.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:
@stodders said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:
What on Earth are NZR going to do when Wayne really does pack it in?
They should start looking for his replacement now.
Game changing stuff
