All Blacks 2024
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@Chester-Draws Exactly. I suspect that's part of the reason the guys who just go from head coach job to head coach job (without taking a short term consultant type job in between) seem to run out of fresh ideas after a while. You need time away from big picture stuff to just focus on specific aspects (to refresh the mind).
I also like the type of role Smith is starting where he can rotate in and out of different team environments. It seems made for him.
@Punch_up said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:
@Chester-Draws Exactly. I suspect that's part of the reason the guys who just go from head coach job to head coach job (without taking a short term consultant type job in between) seem to run out of fresh ideas after a while. You need time away from big picture stuff to just focus on specific aspects (to refresh the mind).
I also like the type of role Smith is starting where he can rotate in and out of different team environments. It seems made for him.
Some guys just seem to be deep thinkers too. Smithy has been all over the world coaching, but also seems to be very curious and thoughtful when he interviews. Grant Fox is another guy who seems to be very thoughtful. Graham Henry had success as a coach and as a mentor for the Blues
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@Punch_up said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:
It's virtually impossible to train or mentor someone to be the next Wayne Smith.
Perhaps they should look to focus more on the outcome rather than the personnel? No reason why it has to be one person
@Victor-Meldrew The idea of multiple individuals or a group would be ideal.
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Bit confused over the Joe Schmidt situation, was hearing a few months ago that he would be a selector and have role with the Blues, lately it seems he is a near certainty for the Aussie job. Will be a hell of a loss if he goes.
@SBW1 said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:
Bit confused over the Joe Schmidt situation, was hearing a few months ago that he would be a selector and have role with the Blues, lately it seems he is a near certainty for the Aussie job. Will be a hell of a loss if he goes.
That's a real shame - I would love for the NZRU to have the same focus on retaining our top coaching talent as well as our playing talent.
It's an odd double standard where are players are actively discouraged from going overseas while all our best coach's are encouraged to flee the country...
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@SBW1 said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:
Bit confused over the Joe Schmidt situation, was hearing a few months ago that he would be a selector and have role with the Blues, lately it seems he is a near certainty for the Aussie job. Will be a hell of a loss if he goes.
That's a real shame - I would love for the NZRU to have the same focus on retaining our top coaching talent as well as our playing talent.
It's an odd double standard where are players are actively discouraged from going overseas while all our best coach's are encouraged to flee the country...
@Windows97 said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:
while all our best coach's are encouraged to flee the country...
They are?
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@SBW1 said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:
Bit confused over the Joe Schmidt situation, was hearing a few months ago that he would be a selector and have role with the Blues, lately it seems he is a near certainty for the Aussie job. Will be a hell of a loss if he goes.
That's a real shame - I would love for the NZRU to have the same focus on retaining our top coaching talent as well as our playing talent.
It's an odd double standard where are players are actively discouraged from going overseas while all our best coach's are encouraged to flee the country...
@Windows97 said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:
@SBW1 said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:
Bit confused over the Joe Schmidt situation, was hearing a few months ago that he would be a selector and have role with the Blues, lately it seems he is a near certainty for the Aussie job. Will be a hell of a loss if he goes.
That's a real shame - I would love for the NZRU to have the same focus on retaining our top coaching talent as well as our playing talent.
It's an odd double standard where are players are actively discouraged from going overseas while all our best coach's are encouraged to flee the country...
I think the issue is the lack of Super Rugby coaching spots. Inevitably lots of our coaching talent have to leave if they want a bigger gig
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@SBW1 said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:
Bit confused over the Joe Schmidt situation, was hearing a few months ago that he would be a selector and have role with the Blues, lately it seems he is a near certainty for the Aussie job. Will be a hell of a loss if he goes.
That's a real shame - I would love for the NZRU to have the same focus on retaining our top coaching talent as well as our playing talent.
It's an odd double standard where are players are actively discouraged from going overseas while all our best coach's are encouraged to flee the country...
@Windows97 Yep mate but as @canefan says, what are they going to do with the coaches, there's 5 super teams? I actually think it's good for them to coach overseas to increase their experience etc of coaching different styles of rugby . Also by them getting experience overseas etc it actually brings through more coaches.
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@Windows97 said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:
while all our best coach's are encouraged to flee the country...
They are?
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:
@Windows97 said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:
while all our best coach's are encouraged to flee the country...
They are?
im assuming they mean all the talk about "international experience", razor being an obvious exception
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That's a long list of staff.
2024 All Blacks Management
Scott Roberston (Head Coach)
Jason Ryan (Assistant Coach - Forwards)
Leon MacDonald (Assistant Coach - Attack)
Scott Hansen (Assistant Coach - Defence)
Jason Holland (Assistant Coach - Backs)
Tamati Ellison (Contact Skills Coach)
Wayne Smith (Performance Coach)
Jamie Hamilton (Head Performance Analyst)
Al Beeton (Assistant Performance Analyst)
Jon Gardner (Assistant Performance Analyst)
Ceri Evans (Head of Leadership + Mental Performance)
Nic Gill (Head of Performance)
Adam Hay (Performance Scientist)
Martin Swan (Doctor)
Karl McDonald (Lead Physiotherapist)
Teresa Te Tamaki (Assistant Physiotherapist)
Kat Darry (Dietician)
Paul McLaughlan (Team Manager)
Megan Compain (Commercial Manager)
James Iversen (Logistics Manager)
Matt Manukia (Communications Manager)Note: Additional operations staff will support the Team Manager and Commercial Manager
https://www.nzrugby.co.nz/news-and-events/latest-news/all-blacks-unveil-2024-management-group/
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That's a long list of staff.
2024 All Blacks Management
Scott Roberston (Head Coach)
Jason Ryan (Assistant Coach - Forwards)
Leon MacDonald (Assistant Coach - Attack)
Scott Hansen (Assistant Coach - Defence)
Jason Holland (Assistant Coach - Backs)
Tamati Ellison (Contact Skills Coach)
Wayne Smith (Performance Coach)
Jamie Hamilton (Head Performance Analyst)
Al Beeton (Assistant Performance Analyst)
Jon Gardner (Assistant Performance Analyst)
Ceri Evans (Head of Leadership + Mental Performance)
Nic Gill (Head of Performance)
Adam Hay (Performance Scientist)
Martin Swan (Doctor)
Karl McDonald (Lead Physiotherapist)
Teresa Te Tamaki (Assistant Physiotherapist)
Kat Darry (Dietician)
Paul McLaughlan (Team Manager)
Megan Compain (Commercial Manager)
James Iversen (Logistics Manager)
Matt Manukia (Communications Manager)Note: Additional operations staff will support the Team Manager and Commercial Manager
https://www.nzrugby.co.nz/news-and-events/latest-news/all-blacks-unveil-2024-management-group/
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:
That's a long list of staff.
2024 All Blacks Management
Wayne Smith (Performance Coach)
Jamie Hamilton (Head Performance Analyst)
Al Beeton (Assistant Performance Analyst)
Jon Gardner (Assistant Performance Analyst)
Ceri Evans (Head of Leadership + Mental Performance)
Nic Gill (Head of Performance)
Adam Hay (Performance Scientist)Seven of them. So we'll soon know if the magic number is eight...
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That's a long list of staff.
2024 All Blacks Management
Scott Roberston (Head Coach)
Jason Ryan (Assistant Coach - Forwards)
Leon MacDonald (Assistant Coach - Attack)
Scott Hansen (Assistant Coach - Defence)
Jason Holland (Assistant Coach - Backs)
Tamati Ellison (Contact Skills Coach)
Wayne Smith (Performance Coach)
Jamie Hamilton (Head Performance Analyst)
Al Beeton (Assistant Performance Analyst)
Jon Gardner (Assistant Performance Analyst)
Ceri Evans (Head of Leadership + Mental Performance)
Nic Gill (Head of Performance)
Adam Hay (Performance Scientist)
Martin Swan (Doctor)
Karl McDonald (Lead Physiotherapist)
Teresa Te Tamaki (Assistant Physiotherapist)
Kat Darry (Dietician)
Paul McLaughlan (Team Manager)
Megan Compain (Commercial Manager)
James Iversen (Logistics Manager)
Matt Manukia (Communications Manager)Note: Additional operations staff will support the Team Manager and Commercial Manager
https://www.nzrugby.co.nz/news-and-events/latest-news/all-blacks-unveil-2024-management-group/
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@Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:
@Bovidae No scrum coach?
Ryan is doing that.
How about kicking?
Holland or MacDonald I assume.
Three of the new support staff are from the Chiefs. I suppose they are doing double-duty now.
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:
That's a long list of staff.
2024 All Blacks Management
Wayne Smith (Performance Coach)
Jamie Hamilton (Head Performance Analyst)
Al Beeton (Assistant Performance Analyst)
Jon Gardner (Assistant Performance Analyst)
Ceri Evans (Head of Leadership + Mental Performance)
Nic Gill (Head of Performance)
Adam Hay (Performance Scientist)Seven of them. So we'll soon know if the magic number is eight...
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:
Seven of them. So we'll soon know if the magic number is eight...
That would be the Internal Coordination Performance Analyst gig which is clearly yet to be filled.
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Perhaps Robertson wanted a fresh, younger coaching team?
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im not adverse to Schmidt not being there, in fact i do wonder about so many big names in one kitchen but as long as Razor has picked them then fingers crossed
