All Blacks 2024
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@ploughboy said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
im sure i read somewhere this camp was for the world cup aquad still in nz.
Probably is, they are the only ones probably not training with super squads.
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@booboo yeah, could be only part of the squad to maintain some secrecy around possible new caps for the upcoming season
OR
Razor has invited current ABs only and he's giving them either the
or the 
as he walks past them on the training field.Example:
Razor: "I'm sorry, Finlay. Thank you for your service."Finlay: "But coach..."
Razor: "Don't make this harder than it already is."
@Punch_up said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@booboo yeah, could be only part of the squad to maintain some secrecy around possible new caps for the upcoming season
OR
Razor has invited current ABs only and he's giving them either the or the as he walks past them on the training field.Example:
Razor: "I'm sorry, Finlay. Thank you for your service."Finlay: "But coach..."
Razor: "Don't make this harder than it already is."
I would put money on Christie being in AB squad come test season. I can also see young Hotham etc being in there also.
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I think he does offer a bit more of a different perspective on how the compulsory stand downs for ABs impact super rugby coaches and see he is keen for them to look at this to work better with thier draw, which is good.
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Put down your torches and pitchforks. He might learn the bland "media-speak" you want and are used to in time. Personally, I think he needs to ruffle as many feathers as possible.
@Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Put down your torches and pitchforks. He might learn the bland "media-speak" you want and are used to in time. Personally, I think he needs to ruffle as many feathers as possible.
Ok so like Eddie Jones then? Sorry mate, I prefer he makes it about team and not him.
I a supporter of Razor, but even I like coaches to not have to be front and centre. -
@Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Put down your torches and pitchforks. He might learn the bland "media-speak" you want and are used to in time. Personally, I think he needs to ruffle as many feathers as possible.
Ok so like Eddie Jones then? Sorry mate, I prefer he makes it about team and not him.
I a supporter of Razor, but even I like coaches to not have to be front and centre. -
Just curious on others peoples thoughts on this. If Richie Came back after the Japanese season finished in May and played club rugby for Linwood do you think he should be able to be selected for ABs.
Me personally I think Razor is fishing for something or someone else. -
Just curious on others peoples thoughts on this. If Richie Came back after the Japanese season finished in May and played club rugby for Linwood do you think he should be able to be selected for ABs.
Me personally I think Razor is fishing for something or someone else.@chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Just curious on others peoples thoughts on this. If Richie Came back after the Japanese season finished in May and played club rugby for Linwood do you think he should be able to be selected for ABs.
Me personally I think Razor is fishing for something or someone else.If Owen Franks or even Sam Whitelock are Razor's solutions, we are in some big fucking trouble.
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Hopefully he is luring Bridge back.
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Disagree with what Robertson is wanting to do, but good on him for articulating his views and pushing the envelope. He clearly understands/thinks there's gaps in the talent pool which he's concerned about. NZ Rugby needs a shake-up.
But, like any other AB Head Coach, he has to make the best of what's available and will be judged on that basis.
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@chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Just curious on others peoples thoughts on this. If Richie Came back after the Japanese season finished in May and played club rugby for Linwood do you think he should be able to be selected for ABs.
Me personally I think Razor is fishing for something or someone else.If Owen Franks or even Sam Whitelock are Razor's solutions, we are in some big fucking trouble.
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
If Owen Franks or even Sam Whitelock are Razor's solutions, we are in some big fucking trouble.
While he may be Mr Continuity at first and build on the existing team (not a bad place to start from), I'd like to see some fresh faces pretty quickly. He has 4 years to develop his team with access to any player in NZ and should just get on with it.
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@gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
If Owen Franks or even Sam Whitelock are Razor's solutions, we are in some big fucking trouble.
While he may be Mr Continuity at first and build on the existing team (not a bad place to start from), I'd like to see some fresh faces pretty quickly. He has 4 years to develop his team with access to any player in NZ and should just get on with it.
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
If Owen Franks or even Sam Whitelock are Razor's solutions, we are in some big fucking trouble.
While he may be Mr Continuity at first and build on the existing team (not a bad place to start from), I'd like to see some fresh faces pretty quickly. He has 4 years to develop his team with access to any player in NZ and should just get on with it.
Spot on. He has a lot of leeway this (and possibly next) year to try a few things out so although I have no problem with him questioning the status quo now, the above is exactly what I want him to do .
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Yeah you do get that niggling feeling that it's a bit strange the coaches "guy" that helped him win 5 titles just kinda randomly upped sticks just as he grew into the role and his coach got the top job.
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Yeah you do get that niggling feeling that it's a bit strange the coaches "guy" that helped him win 5 titles just kinda randomly upped sticks just as he grew into the role and his coach got the top job.
Opportunity to grab some Japanese spondoolies post-RWC and then back next year? I'm interested to see who'll be in the second 10 shirt - assuming DMac is favoured to start.
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@Punch_up said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:
@booboo yeah, could be only part of the squad to maintain some secrecy around possible new caps for the upcoming season
OR
Razor has invited current ABs only and he's giving them either the or the as he walks past them on the training field.Example:
Razor: "I'm sorry, Finlay. Thank you for your service."Finlay: "But coach..."
Razor: "Don't make this harder than it already is."
It makes perfect sense to start with a basis of a squad formed from the guys that were there.
All would have reasonable expectations.
Just trying to work out if anyone from last year missed out. Lord and Finau the only two I could think of.
And whilst I agree re Christie Razor has to find 2x better 9s. They're probably there but let Super take it's course.
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@booboo it’s the RWC squad minus players now overseas isn’t it?
@DaGrubster as far as I can see
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Hopefully he is luring Bridge back.
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Hopefully he is luring Bridge back.
Comment of 2024 (thus far)!
Otoh, what if Razor does make some really unpopular selections like that? I mean, there are plenty of whacky crusaders ideas that didn't quite work at ABs level, but Razor might believe he can make those work.
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@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Hopefully he is luring Bridge back.
Comment of 2024 (thus far)!
Otoh, what if Razor does make some really unpopular selections like that? I mean, there are plenty of whacky crusaders ideas that didn't quite work at ABs level, but Razor might believe he can make those work.
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@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Hopefully he is luring Bridge back.
Comment of 2024 (thus far)!
Otoh, what if Razor does make some really unpopular selections like that? I mean, there are plenty of whacky crusaders ideas that didn't quite work at ABs level, but Razor might believe he can make those work.
I can actually see Havili playing 10 at some stage...
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I can actually see Havili playing 10 at some stage...
@Victor-Meldrew As long as he stays away from the number 12 jumper...
