All Blacks 2024
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I defy anyone to name another player in NZ who could have done a better job than JB at 12. Our failure to succeed was as much about the pattern we chose to play than anything. We departed from the game plan from the Ireland victory, for the second RWC in a row, and consequently came unstuck. IMHO he is a core backline piece, the question Razor will ask is who will play beside him
With Jason Holland selecting the MF,Billy Procter probably comes in to contention at 13.
Ioane has played well over the last year, but he doesn't distribute the ball to his outsides as a typical 13 should. Proctor had a very good SR season last year, he has a chance to pair up with JB again
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I defy anyone to name another player in NZ who could have done a better job than JB at 12. Our failure to succeed was as much about the pattern we chose to play than anything. We departed from the game plan from the Ireland victory, for the second RWC in a row, and consequently came unstuck. IMHO he is a core backline piece, the question Razor will ask is who will play beside him
With Jason Holland selecting the MF,Billy Procter probably comes in to contention at 13.
Ioane has played well over the last year, but he doesn't distribute the ball to his outsides as a typical 13 should. Proctor had a very good SR season last year, he has a chance to pair up with JB again
Don’t forget Braydon Ennor either. @Bones should be along to talk him up any second
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I'm interested to see what O'Halloran can do with Ioane for the Blues.
"Rieko still has a level to go to. I've looked at aspects of his game and there are changes we can make that i'm pretty sure he'll be receptive to."@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I'm interested to see what O'Halloran can do with Ioane for the Blues.
"Rieko still has a level to go to. I've looked at aspects of his game and **there are changes we can make that i'm pretty sure he'll be receptive to."**What, actually passing the ball ?
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No one could have, because there are no other lump 12s in NZ. But that wasn't thr point any one made
And I don't think we deviated from the plan, thr plan went to shit in the face of cards and insane saffer tackling.
And we still nearly won.
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I defy anyone to name another player in NZ who could have done a better job than JB at 12. Our failure to succeed was as much about the pattern we chose to play than anything. We departed from the game plan from the Ireland victory, for the second RWC in a row, and consequently came unstuck. IMHO he is a core backline piece, the question Razor will ask is who will play beside him
With Jason Holland selecting the MF,Billy Procter probably comes in to contention at 13.
Ioane has played well over the last year, but he doesn't distribute the ball to his outsides as a typical 13 should. Proctor had a very good SR season last year, he has a chance to pair up with JB again
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I defy anyone to name another player in NZ who could have done a better job than JB at 12. Our failure to succeed was as much about the pattern we chose to play than anything. We departed from the game plan from the Ireland victory, for the second RWC in a row, and consequently came unstuck. IMHO he is a core backline piece, the question Razor will ask is who will play beside him
With Jason Holland selecting the MF,Billy Procter probably comes in to contention at 13.
Ioane has played well over the last year, but he doesn't distribute the ball to his outsides as a typical 13 should. Proctor had a very good SR season last year, he has a chance to pair up with JB again
This is complete fucking bullshit
Fucking Hurricanes fans
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I defy anyone to name another player in NZ who could have done a better job than JB at 12. Our failure to succeed was as much about the pattern we chose to play than anything. We departed from the game plan from the Ireland victory, for the second RWC in a row, and consequently came unstuck. IMHO he is a core backline piece, the question Razor will ask is who will play beside him
With Jason Holland selecting the MF,Billy Procter probably comes in to contention at 13.
Ioane has played well over the last year, but he doesn't distribute the ball to his outsides as a typical 13 should. Proctor had a very good SR season last year, he has a chance to pair up with JB again
This is complete fucking bullshit
Fucking Hurricanes fans
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I defy anyone to name another player in NZ who could have done a better job than JB at 12. Our failure to succeed was as much about the pattern we chose to play than anything. We departed from the game plan from the Ireland victory, for the second RWC in a row, and consequently came unstuck. IMHO he is a core backline piece, the question Razor will ask is who will play beside him
With Jason Holland selecting the MF,Billy Procter probably comes in to contention at 13.
Ioane has played well over the last year, but he doesn't distribute the ball to his outsides as a typical 13 should. Proctor had a very good SR season last year, he has a chance to pair up with JB again
This is complete fucking bullshit
Fucking Hurricanes fans
I thought he played very well, and he was excellent at running off JB. I'm just saying he could set his outsides up more
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I'm interested to see what O'Halloran can do with Ioane for the Blues.
"Rieko still has a level to go to. I've looked at aspects of his game and there are changes we can make that i'm pretty sure he'll be receptive to."@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I'm interested to see what O'Halloran can do with Ioane for the Blues.
"Rieko still has a level to go to. I've looked at aspects of his game and there are changes we can make that i'm pretty sure he'll be receptive to."Changes:
- Not using the 'handbag under the chicken wing' technique to carry the ball. Two hands on the ball, please.
- Learning the meaning of 'Play and let play'.
- Increasing his situational awareness and improving his decision-making on attack & defence.
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I defy anyone to name another player in NZ who could have done a better job than JB at 12. Our failure to succeed was as much about the pattern we chose to play than anything. We departed from the game plan from the Ireland victory, for the second RWC in a row, and consequently came unstuck. IMHO he is a core backline piece, the question Razor will ask is who will play beside him
With Jason Holland selecting the MF,Billy Procter probably comes in to contention at 13.
Ioane has played well over the last year, but he doesn't distribute the ball to his outsides as a typical 13 should. Proctor had a very good SR season last year, he has a chance to pair up with JB again
This is complete fucking bullshit
Fucking Hurricanes fans
@mariner4life It could be worse, over on the Stuff comments section some troglodyte is calling for Quentin Strange to be AB captain.
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No one could have, because there are no other lump 12s in NZ. But that wasn't thr point any one made
And I don't think we deviated from the plan, thr plan went to shit in the face of cards and insane saffer tackling.
And we still nearly won.
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
No one could have, because there are no other lump 12s in NZ. But that wasn't thr point any one made
And I don't think we deviated from the plan, thr plan went to shit in the face of cards and insane saffer tackling.
And we still nearly won.
If Jordie or Mo'unga could kick their goals, we'd be lauding all of them as heros now. One goddamn point.
On 12 for next year, Tupaea isn't big, but can carry. It will be interesting to see how he goes.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I defy anyone to name another player in NZ who could have done a better job than JB at 12. Our failure to succeed was as much about the pattern we chose to play than anything. We departed from the game plan from the Ireland victory, for the second RWC in a row, and consequently came unstuck. IMHO he is a core backline piece, the question Razor will ask is who will play beside him
With Jason Holland selecting the MF,Billy Procter probably comes in to contention at 13.
Ioane has played well over the last year, but he doesn't distribute the ball to his outsides as a typical 13 should. Proctor had a very good SR season last year, he has a chance to pair up with JB again
This is complete fucking bullshit
Fucking Hurricanes fans
I thought he played very well, and he was excellent at running off JB. I'm just saying he could set his outsides up more
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I defy anyone to name another player in NZ who could have done a better job than JB at 12. Our failure to succeed was as much about the pattern we chose to play than anything. We departed from the game plan from the Ireland victory, for the second RWC in a row, and consequently came unstuck. IMHO he is a core backline piece, the question Razor will ask is who will play beside him
With Jason Holland selecting the MF,Billy Procter probably comes in to contention at 13.
Ioane has played well over the last year, but he doesn't distribute the ball to his outsides as a typical 13 should. Proctor had a very good SR season last year, he has a chance to pair up with JB again
This is complete fucking bullshit
Fucking Hurricanes fans
I thought he played very well, and he was excellent at running off JB. I'm just saying he could set his outsides up more
Go loom who threw the last pass in a bunch of world cup tries
It wasn't the overrated 12
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We were a whisker away from unexpected glory. Lot of b*tching over nothing really. In summary need a lock and a 6
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
No one could have, because there are no other lump 12s in NZ. But that wasn't thr point any one made
And I don't think we deviated from the plan, thr plan went to shit in the face of cards and insane saffer tackling.
And we still nearly won.
If Jordie or Mo'unga could kick their goals, we'd be lauding all of them as heros now. One goddamn point.
On 12 for next year, Tupaea isn't big, but can carry. It will be interesting to see how he goes.
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
No one could have, because there are no other lump 12s in NZ. But that wasn't thr point any one made
And I don't think we deviated from the plan, thr plan went to shit in the face of cards and insane saffer tackling.
And we still nearly won.
If Jordie or Mo'unga could kick their goals, we'd be lauding all of them as heros now. One goddamn point.
On 12 for next year, Tupaea isn't big, but can carry. It will be interesting to see how he goes.
Pity he has suspect defence.
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@gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
No one could have, because there are no other lump 12s in NZ. But that wasn't thr point any one made
And I don't think we deviated from the plan, thr plan went to shit in the face of cards and insane saffer tackling.
And we still nearly won.
If Jordie or Mo'unga could kick their goals, we'd be lauding all of them as heros now. One goddamn point.
On 12 for next year, Tupaea isn't big, but can carry. It will be interesting to see how he goes.
Pity he has suspect defence.
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@ploughboy said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
The Way Razor has set up the selection of the squad is very good imo.
Having each coach responsible for the selection of certain positions.
The pointer to selection of the team is not all around Razor but where the other coaches will lean towards.five different selecting groups for one team. what could go wrong?
Over seen by Razor and Wayne smith Nothing imo.
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@ploughboy said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
The Way Razor has set up the selection of the squad is very good imo.
Having each coach responsible for the selection of certain positions.
The pointer to selection of the team is not all around Razor but where the other coaches will lean towards.five different selecting groups for one team. what could go wrong?
Over seen by Razor and Wayne smith Nothing imo.
So who's actually in charge of selecting the team?
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I defy anyone to name another player in NZ who could have done a better job than JB at 12. Our failure to succeed was as much about the pattern we chose to play than anything. We departed from the game plan from the Ireland victory, for the second RWC in a row, and consequently came unstuck. IMHO he is a core backline piece, the question Razor will ask is who will play beside him
With Jason Holland selecting the MF,Billy Procter probably comes in to contention at 13.
Ioane has played well over the last year, but he doesn't distribute the ball to his outsides as a typical 13 should. Proctor had a very good SR season last year, he has a chance to pair up with JB again
This is complete fucking bullshit
Fucking Hurricanes fans
I thought he played very well, and he was excellent at running off JB. I'm just saying he could set his outsides up more
Go loom who threw the last pass in a bunch of world cup tries
It wasn't the overrated 12
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I defy anyone to name another player in NZ who could have done a better job than JB at 12. Our failure to succeed was as much about the pattern we chose to play than anything. We departed from the game plan from the Ireland victory, for the second RWC in a row, and consequently came unstuck. IMHO he is a core backline piece, the question Razor will ask is who will play beside him
With Jason Holland selecting the MF,Billy Procter probably comes in to contention at 13.
Ioane has played well over the last year, but he doesn't distribute the ball to his outsides as a typical 13 should. Proctor had a very good SR season last year, he has a chance to pair up with JB again
This is complete fucking bullshit
Fucking Hurricanes fans
I thought he played very well, and he was excellent at running off JB. I'm just saying he could set his outsides up more
Go loom who threw the last pass in a bunch of world cup tries
It wasn't the overrated 12
Clearly you forget what we were like when we had Havili at 12.... JB was the one who got us moving forward up the guts from midfield
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@ploughboy said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
The Way Razor has set up the selection of the squad is very good imo.
Having each coach responsible for the selection of certain positions.
The pointer to selection of the team is not all around Razor but where the other coaches will lean towards.five different selecting groups for one team. what could go wrong?
Over seen by Razor and Wayne smith Nothing imo.
So who's actually in charge of selecting the team?
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@ploughboy said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
The Way Razor has set up the selection of the squad is very good imo.
Having each coach responsible for the selection of certain positions.
The pointer to selection of the team is not all around Razor but where the other coaches will lean towards.five different selecting groups for one team. what could go wrong?
Over seen by Razor and Wayne smith Nothing imo.
So who's actually in charge of selecting the team?
The structure of selection
Ryan picks the tight 5
Razor the LFs
Hanson Hbs and First fives
Holland MF
McDonald outside backsRazor overseas the selection with Wayne Smiths in put.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I defy anyone to name another player in NZ who could have done a better job than JB at 12. Our failure to succeed was as much about the pattern we chose to play than anything. We departed from the game plan from the Ireland victory, for the second RWC in a row, and consequently came unstuck. IMHO he is a core backline piece, the question Razor will ask is who will play beside him
With Jason Holland selecting the MF,Billy Procter probably comes in to contention at 13.
Ioane has played well over the last year, but he doesn't distribute the ball to his outsides as a typical 13 should. Proctor had a very good SR season last year, he has a chance to pair up with JB again
This is complete fucking bullshit
Fucking Hurricanes fans
I thought he played very well, and he was excellent at running off JB. I'm just saying he could set his outsides up more
Go loom who threw the last pass in a bunch of world cup tries
It wasn't the overrated 12
Clearly you forget what we were like when we had Havili at 12.... JB was the one who got us moving forward up the guts from midfield
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I defy anyone to name another player in NZ who could have done a better job than JB at 12. Our failure to succeed was as much about the pattern we chose to play than anything. We departed from the game plan from the Ireland victory, for the second RWC in a row, and consequently came unstuck. IMHO he is a core backline piece, the question Razor will ask is who will play beside him
With Jason Holland selecting the MF,Billy Procter probably comes in to contention at 13.
Ioane has played well over the last year, but he doesn't distribute the ball to his outsides as a typical 13 should. Proctor had a very good SR season last year, he has a chance to pair up with JB again
This is complete fucking bullshit
Fucking Hurricanes fans
I thought he played very well, and he was excellent at running off JB. I'm just saying he could set his outsides up more
Go loom who threw the last pass in a bunch of world cup tries
It wasn't the overrated 12
Clearly you forget what we were like when we had Havili at 12.... JB was the one who got us moving forward up the guts from midfield
Being better than David Havili is not a flex
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@ploughboy said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
The Way Razor has set up the selection of the squad is very good imo.
Having each coach responsible for the selection of certain positions.
The pointer to selection of the team is not all around Razor but where the other coaches will lean towards.five different selecting groups for one team. what could go wrong?
Over seen by Razor and Wayne smith Nothing imo.
So who's actually in charge of selecting the team?
The structure of selection
Ryan picks the tight 5
Razor the LFs
Hanson Hbs and First fives
Holland MF
McDonald outside backsRazor overseas the selection with Wayne Smiths in put.
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@ploughboy said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
The Way Razor has set up the selection of the squad is very good imo.
Having each coach responsible for the selection of certain positions.
The pointer to selection of the team is not all around Razor but where the other coaches will lean towards.five different selecting groups for one team. what could go wrong?
Over seen by Razor and Wayne smith Nothing imo.
So who's actually in charge of selecting the team?
The structure of selection
Ryan picks the tight 5
Razor the LFs
Hanson Hbs and First fives
Holland MF
McDonald outside backsRazor overseas the selection with Wayne Smiths in put.
Is that for the squad or the team?
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@ploughboy said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
The Way Razor has set up the selection of the squad is very good imo.
Having each coach responsible for the selection of certain positions.
The pointer to selection of the team is not all around Razor but where the other coaches will lean towards.five different selecting groups for one team. what could go wrong?
Over seen by Razor and Wayne smith Nothing imo.
So who's actually in charge of selecting the team?
The structure of selection
Ryan picks the tight 5
Razor the LFs
Hanson Hbs and First fives
Holland MF
McDonald outside backsRazor overseas the selection with Wayne Smiths in put.
Is that for the squad or the team?
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@ploughboy said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
The Way Razor has set up the selection of the squad is very good imo.
Having each coach responsible for the selection of certain positions.
The pointer to selection of the team is not all around Razor but where the other coaches will lean towards.five different selecting groups for one team. what could go wrong?
Over seen by Razor and Wayne smith Nothing imo.
So who's actually in charge of selecting the team?
The structure of selection
Ryan picks the tight 5
Razor the LFs
Hanson Hbs and First fives
Holland MF
McDonald outside backsRazor overseas the selection with Wayne Smiths in put.
Is that for the squad or the team?
Both
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@ploughboy said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
The Way Razor has set up the selection of the squad is very good imo.
Having each coach responsible for the selection of certain positions.
The pointer to selection of the team is not all around Razor but where the other coaches will lean towards.five different selecting groups for one team. what could go wrong?
Over seen by Razor and Wayne smith Nothing imo.
So who's actually in charge of selecting the team?
The structure of selection
Ryan picks the tight 5
Razor the LFs
Hanson Hbs and First fives
Holland MF
McDonald outside backsRazor overseas the selection with Wayne Smiths in put.
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@ploughboy said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
The Way Razor has set up the selection of the squad is very good imo.
Having each coach responsible for the selection of certain positions.
The pointer to selection of the team is not all around Razor but where the other coaches will lean towards.five different selecting groups for one team. what could go wrong?
Over seen by Razor and Wayne smith Nothing imo.
So who's actually in charge of selecting the team?
The structure of selection
Ryan picks the tight 5
Razor the LFs
Hanson Hbs and First fives
Holland MF
McDonald outside backsRazor overseas the selection with Wayne Smiths in put.
Yeah, I get the structure, But who is actually in charge of selecting the team? Or do you mean training squad.
EDIT: Just seen you replied "Both".
So in reality it's a committee of 5 to pick 15 positions for a Test match and that committee is overseen by one bloke with input from another. Sounds like a recipe for disaster.
