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EPL 2023/2024

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  • broughieB broughie

    @KiwiPie actually, I think your response is kind of strange. I have watched games that Arsenal have played, and these other teams. We dominate possession and do what? The other teams that I mentioned live off scraps with supposed less talent and are scoring some good goals and don't seem to acquiesce. What's not to like about that even if they have granddad coaching them?

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    @broughie said in EPL 2023/2024:

    @KiwiPie actually, I think your response is kind of strange. I have watched games that Arsenal have played, and these other teams. We dominate possession and do what? The other teams that I mentioned live off scraps with supposed less talent and are scoring some good goals and don't seem to acquiesce. What's not to like about that even if they have granddad coaching them?

    Really?? think KP has a valid point, Luton second behind Shef U for most losses, Palace third behind Shef U and Burnley for least goals this season, Luton only scored 2 more goals than Palace..

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      Why de bruyne started on bench, I don’t know. O for awesome. City will be tough to beat with him available.

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        Why de bruyne started on bench, I don’t know. O for awesome. City will be tough to beat with him available.

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        @Billy-Tell apparently just want to ease him back, what an impact though!

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          @Billy-Tell apparently just want to ease him back, what an impact though!

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          @bayimports said in EPL 2023/2024:

          @Billy-Tell apparently just want to ease him back, what an impact though!

          Smart

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            Who do you drop for de bruyne and haaland? You can ditch the Croatian who is all kinds of average. And I suppose Alvarez.

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            • Billy TellB Billy Tell

              Why de bruyne started on bench, I don’t know. O for awesome. City will be tough to beat with him available.

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              @Billy-Tell said in EPL 2023/2024:

              Why de bruyne started on bench, I don’t know. O for awesome. City will be tough to beat with him available.

              If you know you can't get a full game out of him, he can have much more impact towards the end when the opposition is tiring - as was proven. Kovacic is just a squad player so I expect the front 6 of Rodri, Foden, KdB, Doku/Grealish, Haaland, Bernardo soon with Alvarez coming in regularly along with Bobb.

              Must be more pleasant watching Spurs these days - at least they can get the ball from front to back without their first choice central midfielders. Could be a top 4 team once they can play a front 6 choosing from Bissouma, Sarr, Bentacur, Maddison, Werner, Johnson, Richarlison, Son,

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              • KiwiPieK KiwiPie

                @Billy-Tell said in EPL 2023/2024:

                Why de bruyne started on bench, I don’t know. O for awesome. City will be tough to beat with him available.

                If you know you can't get a full game out of him, he can have much more impact towards the end when the opposition is tiring - as was proven. Kovacic is just a squad player so I expect the front 6 of Rodri, Foden, KdB, Doku/Grealish, Haaland, Bernardo soon with Alvarez coming in regularly along with Bobb.

                Must be more pleasant watching Spurs these days - at least they can get the ball from front to back without their first choice central midfielders. Could be a top 4 team once they can play a front 6 choosing from Bissouma, Sarr, Bentacur, Maddison, Werner, Johnson, Richarlison, Son,

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                @KiwiPie said in EPL 2023/2024:

                @Billy-Tell said in EPL 2023/2024:

                Why de bruyne started on bench, I don’t know. O for awesome. City will be tough to beat with him available.

                If you know you can't get a full game out of him, he can have much more impact towards the end when the opposition is tiring - as was proven. Kovacic is just a squad player so I expect the front 6 of Rodri, Foden, KdB, Doku/Grealish, Haaland, Bernardo soon with Alvarez coming in regularly along with Bobb.

                Must be more pleasant watching Spurs these days - at least they can get the ball from front to back without their first choice central midfielders. Could be a top 4 team once they can play a front 6 choosing from Bissouma, Sarr, Bentacur, Maddison, Werner, Johnson, Richarlison, Son,

                These are good times for Spurs fans. We have the forward line, but the back line is where we've solidified. Van der Ven, Romero, and I haven't seen the new guy from Genoa yet. Ange is doing a great job, no more cowering behind the ball afraid to make mistakes, and Daniel Levy seems to be supporting him in the transfer window

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                • canefanC canefan

                  @KiwiPie said in EPL 2023/2024:

                  @Billy-Tell said in EPL 2023/2024:

                  Why de bruyne started on bench, I don’t know. O for awesome. City will be tough to beat with him available.

                  If you know you can't get a full game out of him, he can have much more impact towards the end when the opposition is tiring - as was proven. Kovacic is just a squad player so I expect the front 6 of Rodri, Foden, KdB, Doku/Grealish, Haaland, Bernardo soon with Alvarez coming in regularly along with Bobb.

                  Must be more pleasant watching Spurs these days - at least they can get the ball from front to back without their first choice central midfielders. Could be a top 4 team once they can play a front 6 choosing from Bissouma, Sarr, Bentacur, Maddison, Werner, Johnson, Richarlison, Son,

                  These are good times for Spurs fans. We have the forward line, but the back line is where we've solidified. Van der Ven, Romero, and I haven't seen the new guy from Genoa yet. Ange is doing a great job, no more cowering behind the ball afraid to make mistakes, and Daniel Levy seems to be supporting him in the transfer window

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                  @canefan looks like Spurs have joined the race (with Arsenal and Newcastle) to try steal Dom Solanke as well.. I think Foley will hold but if an offer north of 50 comes.. then I think he goes. Liverpool stand to make a ton of coin if that happens too.

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                    @canefan looks like Spurs have joined the race (with Arsenal and Newcastle) to try steal Dom Solanke as well.. I think Foley will hold but if an offer north of 50 comes.. then I think he goes. Liverpool stand to make a ton of coin if that happens too.

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                    @bayimports said in EPL 2023/2024:

                    @canefan looks like Spurs have joined the race (with Arsenal and Newcastle) to try steal Dom Solanke as well.. I think Foley will hold but if an offer north of 50 comes.. then I think he goes. Liverpool stand to make a ton of coin if that happens too.

                    Not sure on Solanke - he's definitely benefited from Bournemouth's change of style and is a good all-round player but still unsure of him being good enough for the very best clubs. Arse are desperate for a striker having realised that Jesus is still the same player City sold to them and Newcastle need players elsewhere on the pitch as Solanke won't play ahead of Isak (and even Wilson if he ever stays fit).

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                      And Messi wins FIFA Male player of the year. This really is a joke given the period being voted on was after the World Cup until Aug 23 during which time he .... played for PSG who didn't go far in the UCL.

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                      • KiwiPieK KiwiPie

                        @bayimports said in EPL 2023/2024:

                        @canefan looks like Spurs have joined the race (with Arsenal and Newcastle) to try steal Dom Solanke as well.. I think Foley will hold but if an offer north of 50 comes.. then I think he goes. Liverpool stand to make a ton of coin if that happens too.

                        Not sure on Solanke - he's definitely benefited from Bournemouth's change of style and is a good all-round player but still unsure of him being good enough for the very best clubs. Arse are desperate for a striker having realised that Jesus is still the same player City sold to them and Newcastle need players elsewhere on the pitch as Solanke won't play ahead of Isak (and even Wilson if he ever stays fit).

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                        @KiwiPie that question will always be asked as he failed at Liverpool to start with and it begs the question whether he has developed since then. Personally I think he has, but the style of play is important for him and the stats show that, if he goes to a team without the high press I don't think he will be a success. Plus there is always the attraction of no AFCON or Asian Cup headaches to deal with. Personally I hope he stays.

                        Wilson also a Bournemouth legend too, and no surprise Eddie knows them all

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                          I'd be suprised if Newcastle make too many big signings even though they need to as they're under FFP pressure aren't they?

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                            Jose proves again that he has a (very) limited shelf life

                            https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/67992181

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                              I'd be suprised if Newcastle make too many big signings even though they need to as they're under FFP pressure aren't they?

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                              @African-Monkey said in EPL 2023/2024:

                              I'd be suprised if Newcastle make too many big signings even though they need to as they're under FFP pressure aren't they?

                              Yes that's the way it's looking and that's why a few other clubs won't be spending big in January. They spent a lot on Tonali, Barnes & Livramento with an obligation to buy Lewis Hall without making many sales and I can't see them offloading anyone at this stage.

                              Forest and Everton under FFP charges - Everton because it is a 3 year cycle that is judged and Forest being charged is no surprise at all given how many signings they made for last season. Apparently they think it is unfair because it was assessed on June 30 before they sold Johnson but rules are rules etc and plenty of clubs have had to sell valuable assets to comply.

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                                Forest have less to play with as well due to being in the Championship for 2 of those 3 years under the microscope.

                                Might be time for sides to start breeding more players from their academies instead of spending millions on waste.

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                                  Forest have less to play with as well due to being in the Championship for 2 of those 3 years under the microscope.

                                  Might be time for sides to start breeding more players from their academies instead of spending millions on waste.

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                                  @African-Monkey said in EPL 2023/2024:

                                  Forest have less to play with as well due to being in the Championship for 2 of those 3 years under the microscope.

                                  Might be time for sides to start breeding more players from their academies instead of spending millions on waste.

                                  Forest transfer balance was -190m for last season. They are also (according to the link below) well up in the list of salaries. Paying almost 3 times as much as Luton. And more than Brighton who are in Europe and made 95m on transfers this season and 82m last season

                                  https://www.planetfootball.com/quick-reads/wage-bills-europe-major-leagues-2023-24-man-utd-psg-bayern-real-madrid-barcelona

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                                    Firstly, those numbers are insane.

                                    Secondly, the money in England is insane

                                    Thirdly, lol @ Man U

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                                      Well Chelsea think they are clean thanks to amortization, so if that is allowed Im guessing other big clubs are doing it too

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                                        Amortisation to the extent that Chelsea have been doing, has already been ruled out going forward. I think the maximum you can now amortise a player purchase over is 5 years.

                                        Chelsea will be in a power of shit if a few of their big money purchases don't pan out and they are forced to sell them at a massive loss. Amortisation policy will bite them in the arse.

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                                          Wage bills only tell part of the story (obviously) This is the latest revenue vs Wage table I can find

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