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EPL 2023/2024

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    KiwiPie
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    And Messi wins FIFA Male player of the year. This really is a joke given the period being voted on was after the World Cup until Aug 23 during which time he .... played for PSG who didn't go far in the UCL.

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      @bayimports said in EPL 2023/2024:

      @canefan looks like Spurs have joined the race (with Arsenal and Newcastle) to try steal Dom Solanke as well.. I think Foley will hold but if an offer north of 50 comes.. then I think he goes. Liverpool stand to make a ton of coin if that happens too.

      Not sure on Solanke - he's definitely benefited from Bournemouth's change of style and is a good all-round player but still unsure of him being good enough for the very best clubs. Arse are desperate for a striker having realised that Jesus is still the same player City sold to them and Newcastle need players elsewhere on the pitch as Solanke won't play ahead of Isak (and even Wilson if he ever stays fit).

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      @KiwiPie that question will always be asked as he failed at Liverpool to start with and it begs the question whether he has developed since then. Personally I think he has, but the style of play is important for him and the stats show that, if he goes to a team without the high press I don't think he will be a success. Plus there is always the attraction of no AFCON or Asian Cup headaches to deal with. Personally I hope he stays.

      Wilson also a Bournemouth legend too, and no surprise Eddie knows them all

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        I'd be suprised if Newcastle make too many big signings even though they need to as they're under FFP pressure aren't they?

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          Jose proves again that he has a (very) limited shelf life

          https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/67992181

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            I'd be suprised if Newcastle make too many big signings even though they need to as they're under FFP pressure aren't they?

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            @African-Monkey said in EPL 2023/2024:

            I'd be suprised if Newcastle make too many big signings even though they need to as they're under FFP pressure aren't they?

            Yes that's the way it's looking and that's why a few other clubs won't be spending big in January. They spent a lot on Tonali, Barnes & Livramento with an obligation to buy Lewis Hall without making many sales and I can't see them offloading anyone at this stage.

            Forest and Everton under FFP charges - Everton because it is a 3 year cycle that is judged and Forest being charged is no surprise at all given how many signings they made for last season. Apparently they think it is unfair because it was assessed on June 30 before they sold Johnson but rules are rules etc and plenty of clubs have had to sell valuable assets to comply.

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              Forest have less to play with as well due to being in the Championship for 2 of those 3 years under the microscope.

              Might be time for sides to start breeding more players from their academies instead of spending millions on waste.

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                Forest have less to play with as well due to being in the Championship for 2 of those 3 years under the microscope.

                Might be time for sides to start breeding more players from their academies instead of spending millions on waste.

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                @African-Monkey said in EPL 2023/2024:

                Forest have less to play with as well due to being in the Championship for 2 of those 3 years under the microscope.

                Might be time for sides to start breeding more players from their academies instead of spending millions on waste.

                Forest transfer balance was -190m for last season. They are also (according to the link below) well up in the list of salaries. Paying almost 3 times as much as Luton. And more than Brighton who are in Europe and made 95m on transfers this season and 82m last season

                https://www.planetfootball.com/quick-reads/wage-bills-europe-major-leagues-2023-24-man-utd-psg-bayern-real-madrid-barcelona

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                  Firstly, those numbers are insane.

                  Secondly, the money in England is insane

                  Thirdly, lol @ Man U

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                    Well Chelsea think they are clean thanks to amortization, so if that is allowed Im guessing other big clubs are doing it too

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                      Amortisation to the extent that Chelsea have been doing, has already been ruled out going forward. I think the maximum you can now amortise a player purchase over is 5 years.

                      Chelsea will be in a power of shit if a few of their big money purchases don't pan out and they are forced to sell them at a massive loss. Amortisation policy will bite them in the arse.

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                        Wage bills only tell part of the story (obviously) This is the latest revenue vs Wage table I can find

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                          Klopp leaving end of season.

                          That will be a huge change!

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                            Klopp leaving end of season.

                            That will be a huge change!

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                            @MajorRage said in EPL 2023/2024:

                            Klopp leaving end of season.

                            That will be a huge change!

                            Basically the whole coaching staff

                            Pretty significant

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                              Wow! Who comes in? I have a feeling they'll go very hard at Xabi Alonso.

                              He always said he was gonna leave in 2024 in fairness.

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                                Klopp leaving end of season.

                                That will be a huge change!

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                                @MajorRage

                                Nooooooooooooooooo!!!!

                                Fucking love Kloppo what a priveledge it has been to have him manage the greatest club in the world

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                                  @MajorRage said in EPL 2023/2024:

                                  Klopp leaving end of season.

                                  That will be a huge change!

                                  Basically the whole coaching staff

                                  Pretty significant

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                                  @mariner4life

                                  They also need a sporting Director too.

                                  Kloppo said he told the owners in November. So I hope that means we have a replacement already lined up who will be bringing his coaching staff with him.

                                  Alonso would be great if we can get him. He is revolutionising football tactics in Germany

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                                    Wow! Who comes in? I have a feeling they'll go very hard at Xabi Alonso.

                                    He always said he was gonna leave in 2024 in fairness.

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                                    @African-Monkey

                                    He extended his contract until 2026.

                                    We knew it wasn’t forever but it is still hard to take hearing the news

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                                      Gerrard will take a pay cut. 🎣

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                                        @African-Monkey

                                        He extended his contract until 2026.

                                        We knew it wasn’t forever but it is still hard to take hearing the news

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                                        African Monkey
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                                        @DaGrubster Let's be honest, contracts mean shit in football.

                                        Gerrard lol, we did Liverpool a massive favour by giving him a gig and showing them how bad a manager he was.

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                                          @KiwiPie said in EPL 2023/2024:

                                          Sam Kerr does her ACL - think there needs to be some serious work to prevent so many ACL injuries in the women's game.

                                          Contemplating this after seeing an article in Stuff with a slightly clickbaity headline as follows:

                                          https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/world-game/133536729/sam-kerr-the-latest-victim-of-an-injury-that-discriminates-against-women-footballers

                                          It seems women are made different to men (1. Maybe one for the Trans debate thread, 2. Who da thunk?).

                                          Learned this with teenage daughter playing netball. Said daughter apparently had Osgood-Schlatters Diease and Sinding-Larsen-Johannsen Syndrome, not uncommon in developing teenage girls. Essentially girl's hips, legs knees develop with different angles.

                                          Given the specific rigours and dynamics of netball knee and ankle injuries are common, exacerbated by physiological development, and Aus netball has a specific programme to try and combat it. But has not eliminated the issue.

                                          I wasn't aware until I talked to the physio, but hope this is drummed into coaches.

                                          Kind of thing that needs to be developed in soccer?

                                          But I digress...

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                                          @booboo women also have more patellofemoral problems due to angles. It's basically what we like about them :-).

                                          https://images.app.goo.gl/MXQTRuLVNKXgfLje7

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