Formula 1
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If Charles didn't have bad luck, he'd have none.
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If Charles didn't have bad luck, he'd have none.
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He was pretty scathing of his car last year and is no doubt pretty desperate to finish his legacy on a high and go past Schumacher, so I don't think it's hugely surprising but a big move nonetheless.
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it is a little bit of a gamble though isn't it? Ferrari hasn't won a constructors or driver championship for what 15 years?
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it is a little bit of a gamble though isn't it? Ferrari hasn't won a constructors or driver championship for what 15 years?
@Kiwiwomble said in Formula 1:
it is a little bit of a gamble though isn't it? Ferrari hasn't won a constructors or driver championship for what 15 years?
Same as when he left for Mercedes. He's probably pretty sure that Mercedes won't get back on track quick enough, he should know, and hopes Ferrari does
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@Kiwiwomble said in Formula 1:
it is a little bit of a gamble though isn't it? Ferrari hasn't won a constructors or driver championship for what 15 years?
Same as when he left for Mercedes. He's probably pretty sure that Mercedes won't get back on track quick enough, he should know, and hopes Ferrari does
@Machpants you might think so with his experience but he did only just resign with Mercedes last year thinking they were going to get him back on the podium
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@Kiwiwomble said in Formula 1:
it is a little bit of a gamble though isn't it? Ferrari hasn't won a constructors or driver championship for what 15 years?
Same as when he left for Mercedes. He's probably pretty sure that Mercedes won't get back on track quick enough, he should know, and hopes Ferrari does
@Machpants said in Formula 1:
@Kiwiwomble said in Formula 1:
it is a little bit of a gamble though isn't it? Ferrari hasn't won a constructors or driver championship for what 15 years?
Same as when he left for Mercedes. He's probably pretty sure that Mercedes won't get back on track quick enough, he should know, and hopes Ferrari does
But there's a new car for everyone that year. And he has to deal with Ferraris strategy team:
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This is a great move.
Ferrari is F1.
He will want to be competitive of course, but every great driver should have the Tifosi cheering for them.
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@MajorRage said in Formula 1:
This is a great move.
Ferrari is F1.
He will want to be competitive of course, but every great driver should have the Tifosi cheering for them.
Great PR move for both parties I'd say
@MajorRage said in Formula 1:
This is a great move.
Ferrari is F1.
He will want to be competitive of course, but every great driver should have the Tifosi cheering for them.
Great PR move for both parties I'd say
Ferrari don't need PR, they require a decent car and less donkeys doing strategy. I can't see what they get from this equation seeing as they need professionalism in strategy and at developing a car.
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@MajorRage said in Formula 1:
This is a great move.
Ferrari is F1.
He will want to be competitive of course, but every great driver should have the Tifosi cheering for them.
Great PR move for both parties I'd say
Ferrari don't need PR, they require a decent car and less donkeys doing strategy. I can't see what they get from this equation seeing as they need professionalism in strategy and at developing a car.
@antipodean said in Formula 1:
they require a decent car and less donkeys doing strategy
..and drivers who crash less often
Leclerc is a very good driver but he admitted he was on the wrong side of the risk/reward balance last year
Sainz has always been sloppy both in the race and qualifying. He seems to get into a lot of first lap incidents too (even if they don't cause a DNF)
I'm not a Hamilton fan but his consistency is undeniable
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@antipodean said in Formula 1:
they require a decent car and less donkeys doing strategy
..and drivers who crash less often
Leclerc is a very good driver but he admitted he was on the wrong side of the risk/reward balance last year
Sainz has always been sloppy both in the race and qualifying. He seems to get into a lot of first lap incidents too (even if they don't cause a DNF)
I'm not a Hamilton fan but his consistency is undeniable
@antipodean said in Formula 1:
they require a decent car and less donkeys doing strategy
..and drivers who crash less often
His stats need to be viewed from the prism of a dominant car for multiple seasons. Of the drivers from last year, Max and ironically Sainz are the only ones with a season without a DNF.
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@antipodean said in Formula 1:
they require a decent car and less donkeys doing strategy
..and drivers who crash less often
His stats need to be viewed from the prism of a dominant car for multiple seasons. Of the drivers from last year, Max and ironically Sainz are the only ones with a season without a DNF.
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Sorry, I added to my post as you were quoting it
I think Sainz was probably on the way out even if Hamilton wasn't available
Sorry, I added to my post as you were quoting it
All good, the inevitable consequence of a much required function.
I think Sainz was probably on the way out even if Hamilton wasn't available
Possibly, in any other team he'd be near unsackable with his results and name, coupled with Alonso's imminent departure so Spanish sponsors would have a natural heir.
And my comment shouldn't read as downplaying Hamilton's undoubted abilities, but this would've made more sense to me a few years ago. Not that it makes much sense to me now unless Ferrari got out the calculator and worked out they might've secured second place in last years' constructor's championship.
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There is a lot of farewell career feeling to this one.
I think driving for Ferrari will always be the ultimate in F1, regardless of how they are going. And I think Hamilton just wants to tick this bucket list. If the team was exactly the same (people, results, cars etc) but called Renault, does anybody think he would have moved? I certainly don't.
I predict one of two ways.
- Ferrari suck and Hamilton just can't get it together for them. Contract done after a year
- Hamilton gets 1-2 wins and realises he has completed his bucket list in F1, with that the drive to continue starts to ease off and he retires.
If I was him, I'd be doing exactly the same move. Mercedes, Red Bull may be the dominant players and best out teams out there.
But they aren't, and never will be, Scuderia Ferrari.
