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    @Bovidae I used to like Scott Styris, as well - tendency towards the grumpy and critical (along with Smith and Doull). He seems to have disappeared.

    Richardson and McMillan tend to chatter on.

    Elliott is a bit more considered, but quiet and maybe a bit too nice.

    Sumo isn't going to give many technical insights.

    Katey Martin might be quite good - I'm still deciding.

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    @Bovidae said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

    Our best cricket commentators (e.g., Smith, Doull) earn their money overseas when we now play at home.

    Morrison.

    (really not my cup of tea, but popular on the subcontinent it appears)

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    Bob Blair the cricketer gets a bit lost in the other bigger tragedy related to his life.

    But he was probably the most dominant bowler ever in NZ domestic cricket.

    Struggled to find the same sort of penetration at test level, though. Where he averaged 33ish with the ball IIRC. In NZs most difficult/worst period. The 1950s.

    In Plunket Shield he was top wicket taker on 6 occasions, which is still the best ever.

    Had a Plunket Shield bowling average of 14.73. Taking 352 wickets.

    (His over FC record was 537 wickets at 18.54, his test record was 43 wickets at 35 23)

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    @Damo said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

    Conway badly out of form but that was a hell of a first delivery. That would have taken a lot of wickets against a lot of batsmen new to the crease - Nicholls included I strongly suspect.

    Not really Right arm around the wkt straightened.Conway just didn’t move his feet again and played down the wrong line.
    Most batsmen in form would have punched that straight down the ground.

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    I've never seen a player transform like Olivier before.

    He was 145k+

    Took a kolpak contract. Returned 2 years later after brexit, having dropped 20k in pace. I believe he had an injury. But still quite remarkable as his jerky action means he looks like he is still looking for maximum pace. Rather than an e.g. Derek Pringle.

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    @Chris-B said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

    I used to like Scott Styris, as well - tendency towards the grumpy and critical (along with Smith and Doull). He seems to have disappeared.

    I think I heard him on the u19’s World Cup coverage

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    @Rapido said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

    I've never seen a player transform like Olivier before.

    He was 145k+

    Took a kolpak contract. Returned 2 years later after brexit, having dropped 20k in pace. I believe he had an injury. But still quite remarkable as his jerky action means he looks like he is still looking for maximum pace. Rather than an e.g. Derek Pringle.

    Yeah he has had some bad injuries and has remodelled his bowling action he may get a bit quicker when he works into that new action but not 145 again.

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    SA's overrate is a disgrace.

    It is half an hour before scheduled stumps and they have bowled 72 overs. Even with the additional half hour they will still be 5-6 overs behind. Maybe adding 10 runs for every over behind the rate might make a difference.

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    Seeing KW at the crease is so comforting and I’m glad he has a pretty handy looking apprentice there with him.

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    @Rapido said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

    I've never seen a player transform like Olivier before.

    He was 145k+

    Took a kolpak contract. Returned 2 years later after brexit, having dropped 20k in pace. I believe he had an injury. But still quite remarkable as his jerky action means he looks like he is still looking for maximum pace. Rather than an e.g. Derek Pringle.

    Another one of those ‘next Bothams’…..very handy first class stats, bog standard test player though

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    Kane getting loose. See out the day bro

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    @ACT-Crusader said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

    Kane getting loose. See out the day bro

    Settle…..

    He’s got this.

    KW with test ton number 30. An amazing milestone for anyone, let alone a kiwi test cricketer.

    Test batting average sitting at an incredible 55.03 after 97 tests. That’s exceptional. 18th of ALL TIME and you can ( by my less than scientific measure ) discount a few of them due to short lived careers ( Brook, Voges, Pollock, Headley, Paynter ).

    …..and while I’m wanking on about our best ever batsman Ravindra gets a cheeky debut ton. Happy days. Well done fellas !

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    Century #30 for King Kane
    Century #1 for Ravindra

    Great partnership so far, they were under pressure when they came to crease, and it hasn’t been easy out there.

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    True but South African catching also woeful. At least they capitalised on chances

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    It is now 6pm. Scheduled close of play and SA are 10 overs behind.

    The extra half hour is supposed to be extra time in exceptional circumstances, not simply built into the day's play.

    Great to see Rachin and Kane getting their centuries.

    Nicholls will be gutted. No doubt he would have scored a career saving double century against these guys.

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    On the over rate, it was a very sedate day in the sun until they brought the spinner on.

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    Both on 108. I hope there’s a bit of a friendly race going on and Ravindra is enjoying batting with a legend. Can only help his experience in the long term !

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    @MN5 said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

    Both on 108. I hope there’s a bit of a friendly race going on and Ravindra is enjoying batting with a legend. Can only help his experience in the long term !

    Still beggars belief that he was being cockblocked from the test side for so long. He demonstrated his quality as early as that Indian away tour when he saved a test in might what have been his debut

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    @canefan said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

    @MN5 said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

    Both on 108. I hope there’s a bit of a friendly race going on and Ravindra is enjoying batting with a legend. Can only help his experience in the long term !

    Still beggars belief that he was being cockblocked from the rest side for so long. He demonstrated his quality as early as that Indian away tour when he saved a test in might what have been his debut

    I guess one good thing is that it shows the sponsors can't dictate selection.

    I bet ANZ would have been very keen for their poster boy to be selected in the test team as early as possible.

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    @canefan said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

    @MN5 said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

    Both on 108. I hope there’s a bit of a friendly race going on and Ravindra is enjoying batting with a legend. Can only help his experience in the long term !

    Still beggars belief that he was being cockblocked from the rest side for so long. He demonstrated his quality as early as that Indian away tour when he saved a test in might what have been his debut

    Hmmmmmm, not so sure about that. Nicholls did get 200 not out and you can say all you want about flat tracks, home conditions etc. He had to go out and actually get the runs and he did……

    The selectors still had to find a spot for RR, no way they were dropping KW or Mitch. The team needed openers and a keeper….

    It is much harder for a batsman to be dropped from this era of the BCs than a bowler

    ( Wagner probably sitting in the 12th man bunker getting furious )

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