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    83/6 The quality of the SA starting tos how through unfortunately.

    Only question now is whether to enforce the followon. Modern way is 'no' - but there's something to be said for the foot on the throat, provided the bowlers are in good shape. Only 34 overs so far...

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    Matt Henry fucken boomfa !

    Gosh it’s a shame his career started so badly. His improvement is pretty damn impressive. He’s stopped his obsession with Mrs Macs.

    75 wickets in 22 tests vs 76 in 19 for Jamieson…..but the difference in average is huge.

    In saying all that maybe the right decision to play him and not Wags. The latter getting no wickets in his last test didn’t help and Henry has been in fine form.

    Of course if it were up to me both would play and Santner would be carrying the drinks but there you go.

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    Henry really struggled early in his career when he was the cover bower and just got random tests here and there, never managed to find good rhythm. Probably got a little unlucky in that those tests also happened to be tough conditions, but also wasn't good enough in those games to force himself into the starting lineup.

    I'm glad he's done well though. He's always looked so good domestically, I had always thought that with a decent run he'd find himself.

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    @nzzp said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

    83/6 The quality of the SA starting tos how through unfortunately.

    Only question now is whether to enforce the followon. Modern way is 'no' - but there's something to be said for the foot on the throat, provided the bowlers are in good shape. Only 34 overs so far...

    Yeah these guys are gonna be 350 short if they’re lucky. But do the BCs really need to bat again for a quick 250 or so that probably isn’t necessary ?

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    @Cyclops said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

    Henry really struggled early in his career when he was the cover bower and just got random tests here and there, never managed to find good rhythm. Probably got a little unlucky in that those tests also happened to be tough conditions, but also wasn't good enough in those games to force himself into the starting lineup.

    I'm glad he's done well though. He's always looked so good domestically, I had always thought that with a decent run he'd find himself.

    Excellent first class record but I thought with the three seamers being ensconced in the team and Jamieson emerging he’d run out of chances but he has come back and done brilliantly.

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    @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

    Over rates are just generally horrendous these days. Really noticeable at the ground in games where the "DJ" isn't blasting music constantly.

    I agree and the Proteas are one of the worse at it.

    The game is built for TV viewing so lots of breaks. Then there’s the water, gloves and bat changes, tactically left /right combo decisions by teams meaning fielding changes more frequent.

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    @ACT-Crusader said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

    I agree and the Proteas are one of the worse at it.

    Our first WTC was built on the Aussies getting docked points for a slow over rate. I'm not big on schadenfreude, but goddamnit couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of sandpaper and spirit of cricket wielding blokes

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    @nzzp said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

    Only question now is whether to enforce the followon. Modern way is 'no' - but there's something to be said for the foot on the throat, provided the bowlers are in good shape. Only 34 overs so far...

    Yeah there's no workload issue yet

    It might be in NZ's interest to give Conway another bat with no match pressure on

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    I haven't been following, but why have these pricks sent park cricketers to play us?

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    @voodoo it’s a World Cup year and it’s only the Tri Nations. Oops wrong sport…

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    Crikey, Santner beats the bat then gets an appeal for LBW.

    Go son ! Prove the haters wrong !

    EDIT: going upstairs for review, very close. Missing unfortunately

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    @ACT-Crusader close enough to be honest 🎯 .

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    I love Grant Elliot’s dulcet tones in the commentary box.

    Macca McMillan is a good analyst too.

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    @voodoo said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

    I haven't been following, but why have these pricks sent park cricketers to play us?

    TLDR:

    Previous chairman of SA cricket stole their money, the IPL teams then bought SA T20 teams and want a return on their investment, therefore top SA players need to play in the SA T20 league.

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    If we can bowl them out for a lead of 300+, I'd still bat but just do a session or two of really attacking stuff for a quick 150-200 and then send them back in after drinks of whatever session we've reached.

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    @Cyclops said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

    Henry really struggled early in his career when he was the cover bower and just got random tests here and there, never managed to find good rhythm. Probably got a little unlucky in that those tests also happened to be tough conditions, but also wasn't good enough in those games to force himself into the starting lineup.

    I'm glad he's done well though. He's always looked so good domestically, I had always thought that with a decent run he'd find himself.

    He also got tried as the third seamer behind Southee and Boult which doesn't really suit him.

    Opening the bowling he has sixty wickets at 27.83. For the other 15 wickets he averages 69.93.

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    @LABCAT said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

    @Cyclops said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

    Henry really struggled early in his career when he was the cover bower and just got random tests here and there, never managed to find good rhythm. Probably got a little unlucky in that those tests also happened to be tough conditions, but also wasn't good enough in those games to force himself into the starting lineup.

    I'm glad he's done well though. He's always looked so good domestically, I had always thought that with a decent run he'd find himself.

    He also got tried as the third seamer behind Southee and Boult which doesn't really suit him.

    Opening the bowling he has sixty wickets at 27.83. For the other 15 wickets he averages 69.93.

    Amazing how that that works out really, Wagner has similar stats showing he is much better as the 4th seamer/second change than anywhere else.

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    Santner strikes !

    Spin pressure at both ends paying dividends !

    Glenn Philips playing as a specialist number seven batsman by the looks of things

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    Given how many overs gone, I'd bat again when we eventually snaffle the last 3 wickets. Set 500 and see what happens

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    @LABCAT said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

    @voodoo said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

    I haven't been following, but why have these pricks sent park cricketers to play us?

    TLDR:

    Previous chairman of SA cricket stole their money, the IPL teams then bought SA T20 teams and want a return on their investment, therefore top SA players need to play in the SA T20 league.

    Thanks mate

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