All Blacks 2024
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Crazy-Horse you understand the idea looking into the future? you take a little bit of info and extrapolate it out into the future
he's had a couple of good NPC seasons and 8-10 super games where he's looked more the comfortable...that combined with the fact he's not going to get shorter and unlikely to suddenly loose 30kg
if he was already proven then it wouldn't exactly be much of a call would it
Yeah, he seems to have the ingredients but PPP seemed to as well until he revealed himself as a gentle giant. It's a big couple of years for Holland, he needs to show he is hard enough. Hopefully he is.
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Crazy-Horse you understand the idea looking into the future? you take a little bit of info and extrapolate it out into the future
he's had a couple of good NPC seasons and 8-10 super games where he's looked more the comfortable...that combined with the fact he's not going to get shorter and unlikely to suddenly loose 30kg
if he was already proven then it wouldn't exactly be much of a call would it
Yeah, he seems to have the ingredients but PPP seemed to as well until he revealed himself as a gentle giant. It's a big couple of years for Holland, he needs to show he is hard enough. Hopefully he is.
He has a lot more to his game than PPP. Holland has a running game, can pass, offload in the tackle and turnover the ball. PPP is seen as a dominant player who is too soft to be dominant.
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@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@SouthernMann agree so much with you and @Bovidae on Holland. Been ranting about him for a couple of years, he seems to have all skills, size etc, and I love his workrate!
Based on what? He's hardly played Super.
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@SouthernMann agree so much with you and @Bovidae on Holland. Been ranting about him for a couple of years, he seems to have all skills, size etc, and I love his workrate!
Based on what? He's hardly played Super.
Not a lot, but what he has done at super level (and below) he shows all the signs of being a bloody good one in future. I would argue at 21 he is showing more at lock than any I have seen since the likes of Big Sam etc, and to be honest I thougt he showed it at 19. In general looking to future I pretty excited by what he could be. As you say he could flatten out to, but I think he shows more than PPP at same age (could even be his build) so will look at positives anyway.
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We 100% should be changing our eligibility rules to allow him to play again.
The missed touch finder was chef's kiss for me.
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
We 100% should be changing our eligibility rules to allow him to play again.
The missed touch finder was chef's kiss for me.
WTF is this?!!!
I had to go to the youtube channel to read the comments to see if it was a pisstake, but they're all deadset serious in their praise of this "masterclass".
Fuck me.
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in other news...well known flat track bully...bullies on a flat track.....
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@gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
We 100% should be changing our eligibility rules to allow him to play again.
The missed touch finder was chef's kiss for me.
WTF is this?!!!
I had to go to the youtube channel to read the comments to see if it was a pisstake, but they're all deadset serious in their praise of this "masterclass".
Fuck me.
Your anti-cantab bias makes me sick.
You just can't see his obvious class.
He's really taking on high-quality world class players in that competition. The try assist from the terrible non-tackle by Charlie Lawrence is a clear example.
He only had one missed touch and one pass to no-one in those highlights.
He also kicked goals at 71% (5/7) - that's the quality we need to get us over the line at a WC.
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@gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
We 100% should be changing our eligibility rules to allow him to play again.
The missed touch finder was chef's kiss for me.
WTF is this?!!!
I had to go to the youtube channel to read the comments to see if it was a pisstake, but they're all deadset serious in their praise of this "masterclass".
Fuck me.
@voodoo said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
We 100% should be changing our eligibility rules to allow him to play again.
The missed touch finder was chef's kiss for me.
WTF is this?!!!
I had to go to the youtube channel to read the comments to see if it was a pisstake, but they're all deadset serious in their praise of this "masterclass".
Fuck me.
Maybe it means something else in Japanese
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Your anti-cantab bias makes me sick.
You just can't see his obvious class.
He's really taking on high-quality world class players in that competition. The try assist from the terrible non-tackle by Charlie Lawrence is a clear example.
He only had one missed touch and one pass to no-one in those highlights.
He also kicked goals at 71% (5/7) - that's the quality we need to get us over the line at a WC.
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Your anti-cantab bias makes me sick.
You just can't see his obvious class.
He's really taking on high-quality world class players in that competition. The try assist from the terrible non-tackle by Charlie Lawrence is a clear example.
He only had one missed touch and one pass to no-one in those highlights.
He also kicked goals at 71% (5/7) - that's the quality we need to get us over the line at a WC.
You’re probably right. On second viewing, I also noticed he threw a bunch of skip passes that skipped 2-3 guys each time, off BOTH hands too. Extraordinary.
Each time the attacker caught the ball under immediate pressure and didn’t make any ground, but that’s hardly Richie’s fault.
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For a guy who’s Dutch I suppose Holland is a logical surname.
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@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@SouthernMann agree so much with you and @Bovidae on Holland. Been ranting about him for a couple of years, he seems to have all skills, size etc, and I love his workrate!
Based on what? He's hardly played Super.
@Crazy-Horse Have you not received the fern memo? The less you play, the higher you get rated!
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@Crazy-Horse Have you not received the fern memo? The less you play, the higher you get rated!
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Crazy-Horse Have you not received the fern memo? The less you play, the higher you get rated!
Charlie Ngatai is the GOAT
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@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Crazy-Horse Have you not received the fern memo? The less you play, the higher you get rated!
Charlie Ngatai is the GOAT
@SouthernMann The founder of it, currently being held by Ethan Blackadder.
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Razor offered a little bit when Wilson was doing the Highlanders preview on the Breakdown. Wilson was putting a spotlight of Holland. Razor piped up to say he isn't eligible for NZ until next year. I thought the panel missed a beat not unpicking that comment a bit more. For the All Black's coach to jump in there shows he is really interested in the player. Wilson should have allowed Razor to speak on Holland. I reckon that says he will be picked up straight away should his development continue.
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@Crazy-Horse Have you not received the fern memo? The less you play, the higher you get rated!
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Crazy-Horse Have you not received the fern memo? The less you play, the higher you get rated!
Hang on, hang on - he's yet to be injured for many games the passing of each making his mythical status as the solution to all our problems even more firmly entrenched. Lets not get ahead of ourselves yet.
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All Blacks star Will Jordan facing long spell on sidelines
Gutted for the young man. All the signs pointed to Razor giving him the 15 jersey for the All Blacks and now this. Does this mean we're going to have to suffer through another season of Beauden at 15 or is this a chance for someone like Shaun Stevenson?
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All Blacks star Will Jordan facing long spell on sidelines
Gutted for the young man. All the signs pointed to Razor giving him the 15 jersey for the All Blacks and now this. Does this mean we're going to have to suffer through another season of Beauden at 15 or is this a chance for someone like Shaun Stevenson?
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@1kiwi Ruben Love is going to have a big year and will push for that fullback jersey aswell.
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@1kiwi Ruben Love is going to have a big year and will push for that fullback jersey aswell.
There's a few contenders. Stevenson, Zarn Sullivan, Ruben Love, I could see Jacob Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens having a big year as well now that he has clear air on the 15 jersey in Super Rugby. Exciting stuff.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@1kiwi Ruben Love is going to have a big year and will push for that fullback jersey aswell.
There's a few contenders. Stevenson, Zarn Sullivan, Ruben Love, I could see Jacob Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens having a big year as well now that he has clear air on the 15 jersey in Super Rugby. Exciting stuff.
@KiwiMurph yeah going to be exciting to see who steps up. It's like that for many positions which should make viewing a little more intense.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@1kiwi Ruben Love is going to have a big year and will push for that fullback jersey aswell.
There's a few contenders. Stevenson, Zarn Sullivan, Ruben Love, I could see Jacob Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens having a big year as well now that he has clear air on the 15 jersey in Super Rugby. Exciting stuff.
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I could see Jacob Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens having a big year as well
I'm really hoping he gets a slot as well. If only to see how the commentators manage his moniker
