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  • M Mr Fish

    I'm not confident Segner is big enough for Test rugby. He was probably the Blues' best loose over the weekend, mind you.

    Finau is definitely big enough but he's not the most involved player. It's great when he puts in a couple of clattering hits or makes some nice ground on the outside, but he'd need two very hard-working loosies to complement him.

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    @Mr-Fish so Savea and whoever is in best form out of Papalii, Jacobson, Blackadder.

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    • M Mr Fish

      I'm not confident Segner is big enough for Test rugby. He was probably the Blues' best loose over the weekend, mind you.

      Finau is definitely big enough but he's not the most involved player. It's great when he puts in a couple of clattering hits or makes some nice ground on the outside, but he'd need two very hard-working loosies to complement him.

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      @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      I'm not confident Segner is big enough for Test rugby. He was probably the Blues' best loose over the weekend, mind you.

      Finau is definitely big enough but he's not the most involved player. It's great when he puts in a couple of clattering hits or makes some nice ground on the outside, but he'd need two very hard-working loosies to complement him.

      Regardless of his ability, some random
      German guy who decides to try his hand at rugby and makes the ABs would be a cool story. Not to mention all the Panzer brigade references etc.

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      • M Mr Fish

        I'm not confident Segner is big enough for Test rugby. He was probably the Blues' best loose over the weekend, mind you.

        Finau is definitely big enough but he's not the most involved player. It's great when he puts in a couple of clattering hits or makes some nice ground on the outside, but he'd need two very hard-working loosies to complement him.

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        #829

        @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

        I'm not confident Segner is big enough for Test rugby. He was probably the Blues' best loose over the weekend, mind you.

        Finau is definitely big enough but he's not the most involved player. It's great when he puts in a couple of clattering hits or makes some nice ground on the outside, but he'd need two very hard-working loosies to complement him.

        Well our loosies had good practice doing that at the business end of the season with the useless Tongan piece of shit.

        Edit: I think Segner is looking bigger this year, he's filled out a bit.

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        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

          @booboo said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

          @mariner4life

          Impressive live.

          Got some speed too.

          Not impressed with brainfart when he laid out Lynagh. Cut that out.

          But otherwise he'll to the yeah.

          whatever. let the 10 know you're there. it was a fraction late, nothing in it. The cries for blood from softcocks on line make me laugh

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          @mariner4life

          I thought it was really late and pretty obvious, still a bloody good tackle though.

          Like his attitude and work rate and totally agree he needs to be in Black.

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            Segner is bigger than you think (1.92 m, 108 kg). IMO his best position is at 7, and I think he is better at slowing down opposition ball/winning turnovers than Papalii in that position.

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            • BovidaeB Bovidae

              Segner is bigger than you think (1.92 m, 108 kg). IMO his best position is at 7, and I think he is better at slowing down opposition ball/winning turnovers than Papalii in that position.

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              #832

              @Bovidae I agree, upset a Papalii fan on another forum got upset when I suggested it. I just like Segner, been on his bandwagon since I saw him play for NZ schoolboys a few years back in Brisbane. He reminds me of what excited me about Etahn Blackadder, I say it time and again, I a rel fan of players with huge workrates who get of ground and keep trying to contribute to game. But am willing to admit, because I measure those traits so highly doesn't make me anymore right than any other though!

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              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                Segner is bigger than you think (1.92 m, 108 kg). IMO his best position is at 7, and I think he is better at slowing down opposition ball/winning turnovers than Papalii in that position.

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                #833

                @Bovidae I think it's noticeable when he isn't there that highlights his importance to thier style of play.

                I think Rush is very similar to Segnar in the way he plays, but short of a couple of injuries isn't likely to get much time to show his wares

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                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                  Segner is bigger than you think (1.92 m, 108 kg). IMO his best position is at 7, and I think he is better at slowing down opposition ball/winning turnovers than Papalii in that position.

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                  @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  Segner is bigger than you think (1.92 m, 108 kg). IMO his best position is at 7, and I think he is better at slowing down opposition ball/winning turnovers than Papalii in that position.

                  i think he should be the first loose forward on the team sheet for the Blues, and then they rotate the others around him. He's not the best of them, but he's the glue guy that lets the others best do their thing.

                  Not sure i am ready to annoint him international ready though

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                  • Dan54D Dan54

                    @Bovidae I agree, upset a Papalii fan on another forum got upset when I suggested it. I just like Segner, been on his bandwagon since I saw him play for NZ schoolboys a few years back in Brisbane. He reminds me of what excited me about Etahn Blackadder, I say it time and again, I a rel fan of players with huge workrates who get of ground and keep trying to contribute to game. But am willing to admit, because I measure those traits so highly doesn't make me anymore right than any other though!

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                    @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    I agree, upset a Papalii fan on another forum got upset when I suggested it.

                    Bro, do you have a death wish?

                    Also, you've now attached German Jesus status to him by associating him with Ta$man Jesus, you've ruined him now. 😉

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                      Segner might get a chance at 7 when Tuupulotu returns from injury and regains the captaincy

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                        #837

                        Random thoughts after tonight's Sith v Canes. Not comprehensive. And very random ...

                        Felt this game was only NPC level. Very few ABs or potential ABs on display.

                        Usually Sith have multiple ABs on the bench ... they kinda did this time but they Used To Be ABs. A step below what you expect.

                        But less about the game, more about future selections:

                        1 . Grace falls down my rankings. Didn't offer much.
                        2. Still wating for Lakai to impress. Goes ok at this level admittedly... but otherwise unimpressive.
                        3. Macca Springer has a future.
                        4. Bald Sader openside (forgot his name) is forgettable.
                        5. Sader's hooker Bell is anonymous..

                        Other random thoughts as they come to mind.

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                        • boobooB booboo

                          Random thoughts after tonight's Sith v Canes. Not comprehensive. And very random ...

                          Felt this game was only NPC level. Very few ABs or potential ABs on display.

                          Usually Sith have multiple ABs on the bench ... they kinda did this time but they Used To Be ABs. A step below what you expect.

                          But less about the game, more about future selections:

                          1 . Grace falls down my rankings. Didn't offer much.
                          2. Still wating for Lakai to impress. Goes ok at this level admittedly... but otherwise unimpressive.
                          3. Macca Springer has a future.
                          4. Bald Sader openside (forgot his name) is forgettable.
                          5. Sader's hooker Bell is anonymous..

                          Other random thoughts as they come to mind.

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                          @booboo said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                          Grace falls down my rankings. Didn't offer much.

                          Made Flanders look like a chump.

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                          • boobooB booboo

                            Random thoughts after tonight's Sith v Canes. Not comprehensive. And very random ...

                            Felt this game was only NPC level. Very few ABs or potential ABs on display.

                            Usually Sith have multiple ABs on the bench ... they kinda did this time but they Used To Be ABs. A step below what you expect.

                            But less about the game, more about future selections:

                            1 . Grace falls down my rankings. Didn't offer much.
                            2. Still wating for Lakai to impress. Goes ok at this level admittedly... but otherwise unimpressive.
                            3. Macca Springer has a future.
                            4. Bald Sader openside (forgot his name) is forgettable.
                            5. Sader's hooker Bell is anonymous..

                            Other random thoughts as they come to mind.

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                            @booboo said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            1 . Grace falls down my rankings. Didn't offer much.

                            What game were you watching?

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                            • O Old Samurai Jack

                              @booboo said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              1 . Grace falls down my rankings. Didn't offer much.

                              What game were you watching?

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                              @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              @booboo said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              1 . Grace falls down my rankings. Didn't offer much.

                              What game were you watching?

                              Yep Grace had a big shift he played well.

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                                #841

                                Grace got a super try.

                                Do you even watch Rugby ? ( I actually did for once )

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                                  #842

                                  Grace as well as scoring a great try,Pinched a couple of Canes line outs,Pulled of some big hits a lot of the defence was lead by Grace.He ran at the line hard bent it a few times.Best game he has put out in sometime.
                                  I am not saying he played his way in to AB contention on one game but if you were really watching you would seen a lot more than a try.

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                                  • ChrisC Chris

                                    Grace as well as scoring a great try,Pinched a couple of Canes line outs,Pulled of some big hits a lot of the defence was lead by Grace.He ran at the line hard bent it a few times.Best game he has put out in sometime.
                                    I am not saying he played his way in to AB contention on one game but if you were really watching you would seen a lot more than a try.

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                                    @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                    Best game he has put out in sometime.

                                    Agree he had a good game last night. He's been well off the pace in the first three weeks though. Gardiner has been worse so not many commented on Grace

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                                    • DuluthD Duluth

                                      @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                      Best game he has put out in sometime.

                                      Agree he had a good game last night. He's been well off the pace in the first three weeks though. Gardiner has been worse so not many commented on Grace

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                                      @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                      @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                      Best game he has put out in sometime.

                                      Agree he had a good game last night. He's been well off the pace in the first three weeks though. Gardiner has been worse so not many commented on Grace

                                      Yep that's a Fair call.

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                                        have a read of this tripe

                                        did i blink and miss where RM somehow turned in to this all-conquering test match 10 we desperately can't live without?

                                        Even the rest of the list of names he references sounded like last year's news.

                                        https://www.theroar.com.au/2024/03/19/its-time-we-grew-up-the-jarring-hypocrisy-that-proves-all-blacks-are-getting-key-call-all-wrong/

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                                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                          have a read of this tripe

                                          did i blink and miss where RM somehow turned in to this all-conquering test match 10 we desperately can't live without?

                                          Even the rest of the list of names he references sounded like last year's news.

                                          https://www.theroar.com.au/2024/03/19/its-time-we-grew-up-the-jarring-hypocrisy-that-proves-all-blacks-are-getting-key-call-all-wrong/

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                                          @mariner4life so it appears to me that FAS isn't a barrier to being a "sports journalist".

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