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  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

    financial fuck ups aside

    I'm reading that Laurie Fisher is being brought back in as a Wallaby assistant. This question is aimed squarely at the Aussies

    Is this guy hugely overrated or what? He seems to be constantly brought up as the answer to what ever problem the Wallabies currently have.
    He's been forwards coach. He's been defense coach. Two areas the Wallabies have been shit in for ages. Also two areas where the Wallabies have appalling discipline.
    I know he wasn't there for last years shit show, but he was there before that, and his specific areas were pretty friggen average.

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    @mariner4life said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

    financial fuck ups aside

    I'm reading that Laurie Fisher is being brought back in as a Wallaby assistant. This question is aimed squarely at the Aussies

    Is this guy hugely overrated or what? He seems to be constantly brought up as the answer to what ever problem the Wallabies currently have.
    He's been forwards coach. He's been defense coach. Two areas the Wallabies have been shit in for ages. Also two areas where the Wallabies have appalling discipline.
    I know he wasn't there for last years shit show, but he was there before that, and his specific areas were pretty friggen average.

    He has a big reputation in Canberra. Most people consider his coaching fundamental to the Brumbies' accuracy and competence at set piece.

    Whether his ideas have kept pace with modern rugby is anyone's guess.

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      Laurie Fisher as Wallaby defence coach is a fuck ton better than Eddie's plan of Brett Hodgson as Wallaby defence coach.

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      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

        Laurie Fisher as Wallaby defence coach is a fuck ton better than Eddie's plan of Brett Hodgson as Wallaby defence coach.

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        You could easily say

        @KiwiMurph said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

        Laurie Fisher NTA as Wallaby defence coach is a fuck ton better than Eddie's plan of Brett Hodgson as Wallaby defence coach.

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          As if the Jones disaster could be any worse, and who signed it off? Unless Eddie could do that himself?

          “The over-investment that was unapproved was $2.6 million, which covered three main elements, being team costs, staff travel and then player benefits,” Waugh told reporters.

          https://www.theroar.com.au/2024/03/07/more-transparent-for-players-ra-reacts-to-eddies-rwc-selection-debacle-as-23-review-recommendations-revealed/

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            Some good news

            https://www.theroar.com.au/2024/03/09/a-wonderful-initiative-33-year-first-as-wales-to-take-on-queensland-reds-in-nod-to-traditional-tours/

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            • M Machpants

              Some good news

              https://www.theroar.com.au/2024/03/09/a-wonderful-initiative-33-year-first-as-wales-to-take-on-queensland-reds-in-nod-to-traditional-tours/

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              Thirty-three years after going down to Queensland in Brisbane, Warren Gatland’s Welsh side

              Warren Gatland didn't coach a national Welsh team 33 years ago.

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                https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/beale-poised-for-rugby-return-this-weekend-20240311-p5fbik.html

                Beale playing club rugby this weekend after his stand down.

                Plenty of injuries at the Tahs. I presume he'll be back with a SR side soon?

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                • DuluthD Duluth

                  https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/beale-poised-for-rugby-return-this-weekend-20240311-p5fbik.html

                  Beale playing club rugby this weekend after his stand down.

                  Plenty of injuries at the Tahs. I presume he'll be back with a SR side soon?

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                  @Duluth said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                  https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/beale-poised-for-rugby-return-this-weekend-20240311-p5fbik.html

                  Beale playing club rugby this weekend after his stand down.

                  Plenty of injuries at the Tahs. I presume he'll be back with a SR side soon?

                  Not sure he's flavour of the week anywhere, but maybe injury cover?

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                    Fuck he talks some shit. I wonder if he actually believes it? They'll only be in a better place it they, andRA, survive the trauma!

                    And because of that, Jones believes the young players he blooded will ultimately become a golden generation for Australia, as they prepare to host the next World Cup in 2027.

                    “[I] don’t have any regrets. I tried to do my best in a short period of time,” he said.

                    “And what I think I’ve left Australia is a young squad that’s capable of doing well.

                    “Sometimes you’ve got to leave things in a better place and maybe you take responsibility for the failure, which is okay.”

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                      https://www.rugbypass.com/news/wallaby-pone-faamausili-open-to-shift-from-front-to-back-row-for-rebels/

                      “People have forgotten that I did play at eight in 2019, I played three games.
                      
                      “I’d 100 per cent be open to playing there again, but I think I’d have to lose at least 10 kilos – I’m 135 at the moment, so I just need to be disciplined and make the right choices with food.”
                      
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                        Ouch, I hope this is wrong, player pulling out of game because he hasn't been paid money is not what we want happening.
                        https://www.theroar.com.au/2024/03/19/exclusive-wallaby-refused-to-play-for-rebels-against-reds-over-outstanding-debt/

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                        • Dan54D Dan54

                          Ouch, I hope this is wrong, player pulling out of game because he hasn't been paid money is not what we want happening.
                          https://www.theroar.com.au/2024/03/19/exclusive-wallaby-refused-to-play-for-rebels-against-reds-over-outstanding-debt/

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                          @Dan54 really interesting situation though, the relocation fee is outside his contract (why?)...so is he in breach of contract by not playing?...can they fine him...say...$7k for not playing?

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                          • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                            @Dan54 really interesting situation though, the relocation fee is outside his contract (why?)...so is he in breach of contract by not playing?...can they fine him...say...$7k for not playing?

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                            @Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                            @Dan54 really interesting situation though, the relocation fee is outside his contract (why?)...so is he in breach of contract by not playing?...can they fine him...say...$7k for not playing?

                            All square. Play on!

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                                The best part: we haven't hit peak stupid yet.

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                                • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                  @Dan54 really interesting situation though, the relocation fee is outside his contract (why?)...so is he in breach of contract by not playing?...can they fine him...say...$7k for not playing?

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                                  @Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                                  @Dan54 really interesting situation though, the relocation fee is outside his contract (why?)...so is he in breach of contract by not playing?...can they fine him...say...$7k for not playing?

                                  Apparently the relocation fee was not part of his wage (keeping it out of salary cap?) , but not sure how or what is story, bottom line is he has been done out of money etc. I get idea maybe he has found a way to getting out of contract so he can fins somewhere else to go before the rest of team come on market?

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                                    Looks to me like all parties recognise he's owed the cash.

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                                      this passage would suggest that the Rebels have a few on-field issues to deal with as well - not ideal to be relying on your 92kg winger for turnovers and slowing of opposition

                                      **"The back’s absence was felt against the Reds, with the Wallaby one of the side’s strongest over the ball.

                                      Unable to slow the Reds’ ball down in the first half the visitors scored five tries to a match-winning lead into half-time.**

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                                      • voodooV voodoo

                                        this passage would suggest that the Rebels have a few on-field issues to deal with as well - not ideal to be relying on your 92kg winger for turnovers and slowing of opposition

                                        **"The back’s absence was felt against the Reds, with the Wallaby one of the side’s strongest over the ball.

                                        Unable to slow the Reds’ ball down in the first half the visitors scored five tries to a match-winning lead into half-time.**

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                                        @voodoo said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                                        this passage would suggest that the Rebels have a few on-field issues Christy Doran has no fucking idea about rugby

                                        FIFY

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                                        • voodooV voodoo

                                          this passage would suggest that the Rebels have a few on-field issues to deal with as well - not ideal to be relying on your 92kg winger for turnovers and slowing of opposition

                                          **"The back’s absence was felt against the Reds, with the Wallaby one of the side’s strongest over the ball.

                                          Unable to slow the Reds’ ball down in the first half the visitors scored five tries to a match-winning lead into half-time.**

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                                          @voodoo said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                                          this passage would suggest that the Rebels have a few on-field issues to deal with as well - not ideal to be relying on your 92kg winger for turnovers and slowing of opposition

                                          **"The back’s absence was felt against the Reds, with the Wallaby one of the side’s strongest over the ball.

                                          Unable to slow the Reds’ ball down in the first half the visitors scored five tries to a match-winning lead into half-time.**

                                          not sure i agree thats one of their many issues, i think its pretty common now days for wingers to be leading turnovers stats

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