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  • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

    @george33 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    He ain't watching it LIVE in NZ

    Why does he have to watch it live? Serious question. I bet he has access to a hell of a lot more coverage than we do.

    I suppose if one is bothered by how things 'look' then yeah it's probably a better 'look' to be seen at matches. But I wonder how much they actually get from watching from the stands.

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    @Crazy-Horse Hope Ur not serious?

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    • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

      @george33 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      He ain't watching it LIVE in NZ

      Why does he have to watch it live? Serious question. I bet he has access to a hell of a lot more coverage than we do.

      I suppose if one is bothered by how things 'look' then yeah it's probably a better 'look' to be seen at matches. But I wonder how much they actually get from watching from the stands.

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      @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      @george33 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      He ain't watching it LIVE in NZ

      Why does he have to watch it live? Serious question. I bet he has access to a hell of a lot more coverage than we do.

      I suppose if one is bothered by how things 'look' then yeah it's probably a better 'look' to be seen at matches. But I wonder how much they actually get from watching from the stands.

      Because they usually watch individual players and not the TV Coverage. Should be watching it live.

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        LF left at a young age, still plenty of years left for him to play for the ABs.

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          This is what the thought process looks like "Crusaders aren't playing well in NZ, so better pick overseas Crusaders"

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          • S SBW1

            LF left at a young age, still plenty of years left for him to play for the ABs.

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            African Monkey
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            @SBW1 We have more than enough wingers in this country without needing to bring back Leicester Fai'anganuku, who played a grand total of 7 tests, which included Namibia and Uruguay.

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            • A African Monkey

              @SBW1 We have more than enough wingers in this country without needing to bring back Leicester Fai'anganuku, who played a grand total of 7 tests, which included Namibia and Uruguay.

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              @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              @SBW1 We have more than enough wingers in this country without needing to bring back Leicester Fai'anganuku, who played a grand total of 7 tests, which included Namibia and Uruguay.

              But Sevu is leaving and Ennor is injured. Someone needs to backup McLeod and Springer

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              • DuluthD Duluth

                @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                @SBW1 We have more than enough wingers in this country without needing to bring back Leicester Fai'anganuku, who played a grand total of 7 tests, which included Namibia and Uruguay.

                But Sevu is leaving and Ennor is injured. Someone needs to backup McLeod and Springer

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                African Monkey
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                @Duluth Oh shit sorry I'm in the wrong thread.

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                  @Duluth Oh shit sorry I'm in the wrong thread.

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                  @African-Monkey

                  Unfortunately it's the right thread

                  We have an AB coach who doesn't want to coach new players

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                  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                    We didn't win the last World Cup with these guys onboard, why are we bringing them back even older than they were before. Trust the guys you have playing in New Zealand Razor. What a crock of shit.

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                    @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    We didn't win the last World Cup with these guys onboard, why are we bringing them back even older than they were before. Trust the guys you have playing in New Zealand Razor. What a crock of shit.

                    There's plenty of examples in AB history of an irreplaceable player being replaced. Give new players a chance and do some coaching

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                    • DuluthD Duluth

                      @African-Monkey

                      Unfortunately it's the right thread

                      We have an AB coach who doesn't want to coach new players

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                      @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      @African-Monkey

                      Unfortunately it's the right thread

                      We have an AB coach who doesn't want to coach new players

                      I'm confused. Aren't the assistant coaches the ones doing the coaching?

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                        No different than Barrett coming back although he is well past it at least Whitelock was and still is performing.
                        It is obvious the coaching staff do not rate the locking stocks playing in this country very highly ,maybe it is stop gap for a couple of years until the young ones develop and harden up a bit more.
                        Lock is one position the older harder players seem to dominate.
                        Vaai is not a test lock,Holland isn't available yet,Lord is coming through but is injured a lot.
                        Parkinson,Strange,Darry,MSR,IWL not test options in my opinion.Looks a bit bare to me

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                        • antipodeanA antipodean

                          @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                          @African-Monkey

                          Unfortunately it's the right thread

                          We have an AB coach who doesn't want to coach new players

                          I'm confused. Aren't the assistant coaches the ones doing the coaching?

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                          @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                          @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                          @African-Monkey

                          Unfortunately it's the right thread

                          We have an AB coach who doesn't want to coach new players

                          I'm confused. Aren't the assistant coaches the ones doing the coaching?

                          that entirely depends on the narrative you are pushing

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                          • ChrisC Chris

                            No different than Barrett coming back although he is well past it at least Whitelock was and still is performing.
                            It is obvious the coaching staff do not rate the locking stocks playing in this country very highly ,maybe it is stop gap for a couple of years until the young ones develop and harden up a bit more.
                            Lock is one position the older harder players seem to dominate.
                            Vaai is not a test lock,Holland isn't available yet,Lord is coming through but is injured a lot.
                            Parkinson,Strange,Darry,MSR,IWL not test options in my opinion.Looks a bit bare to me

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                            @Chris I agree with what you're saying, and I'm happy to have a Tuipulotu, Stange, Vaai as a stop gap measure until someone better comes along such as Holland to go with Barrett and Lord.

                            We have to play without Whitelock eventually, why not start the process now?

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                              @Chris I agree with what you're saying, and I'm happy to have a Tuipulotu, Stange, Vaai as a stop gap measure until someone better comes along such as Holland to go with Barrett and Lord.

                              We have to play without Whitelock eventually, why not start the process now?

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                              @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              @Chris I agree with what you're saying, and I'm happy to have a Tuipulotu, Stange, Vaai as a stop gap measure until someone better comes along such as Holland to go with Barrett and Lord.

                              We have to play without Whitelock eventually, why not start the process now?

                              Maybe Whitelock in the environment they see valuable where they could add a youngster to the squad, who better to learn off than Whitelock
                              Maybe use him to bring on the younger locks bring them in to camp at times.
                              Maybe more to it than the playing side and maybe that is their thinking over BB.
                              All speculation but I see merits in it.

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                              • KirwanK Kirwan

                                This is what the thought process looks like "Crusaders aren't playing well in NZ, so better pick overseas Crusaders"

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                                @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                This is what the thought process looks like "Crusaders aren't playing well in NZ, so better pick overseas Crusaders"

                                He does seem to be focusing on the ex-Crusader players

                                But he's also undermining super rugby. By emphasising and elevating what's missing. It's the last thing SRP needs now.

                                His bosses need to have a talk and tell him to get back and stop the bullshit.

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                                • ChrisC Chris

                                  No different than Barrett coming back although he is well past it at least Whitelock was and still is performing.
                                  It is obvious the coaching staff do not rate the locking stocks playing in this country very highly ,maybe it is stop gap for a couple of years until the young ones develop and harden up a bit more.
                                  Lock is one position the older harder players seem to dominate.
                                  Vaai is not a test lock,Holland isn't available yet,Lord is coming through but is injured a lot.
                                  Parkinson,Strange,Darry,MSR,IWL not test options in my opinion.Looks a bit bare to me

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                                  george33
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                                  @Chris Barrett never left and re- signed under Razor 4 more Years , Whitelock/ Ritchie walked away , any way can't b bothered with these coaching staff already

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                                    @Chris I agree with what you're saying, and I'm happy to have a Tuipulotu, Stange, Vaai as a stop gap measure until someone better comes along such as Holland to go with Barrett and Lord.

                                    We have to play without Whitelock eventually, why not start the process now?

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                                    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                    @Chris I agree with what you're saying, and I'm happy to have a Tuipulotu, Stange, Vaai

                                    That lot aren't going to scare anyone. Doubt they would make any other tier 1 team.

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                                    • ChrisC Chris

                                      No different than Barrett coming back although he is well past it at least Whitelock was and still is performing.
                                      It is obvious the coaching staff do not rate the locking stocks playing in this country very highly ,maybe it is stop gap for a couple of years until the young ones develop and harden up a bit more.
                                      Lock is one position the older harder players seem to dominate.
                                      Vaai is not a test lock,Holland isn't available yet,Lord is coming through but is injured a lot.
                                      Parkinson,Strange,Darry,MSR,IWL not test options in my opinion.Looks a bit bare to me

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                                      george33
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                                      @Chris Darry has had conversations with Razor I've been informed but injury won't help the situation

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                                      • ChrisC Chris

                                        No different than Barrett coming back although he is well past it at least Whitelock was and still is performing.
                                        It is obvious the coaching staff do not rate the locking stocks playing in this country very highly ,maybe it is stop gap for a couple of years until the young ones develop and harden up a bit more.
                                        Lock is one position the older harder players seem to dominate.
                                        Vaai is not a test lock,Holland isn't available yet,Lord is coming through but is injured a lot.
                                        Parkinson,Strange,Darry,MSR,IWL not test options in my opinion.Looks a bit bare to me

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                                        @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        No different than Barrett coming back although he is well past it at least Whitelock was and still is performing.
                                        It is obvious the coaching staff do not rate the locking stocks playing in this country very highly ,maybe it is stop gap for a couple of years until the young ones develop and harden up a bit more.
                                        Lock is one position the older harder players seem to dominate.
                                        Vaai is not a test lock,Holland isn't available yet,Lord is coming through but is injured a lot.
                                        Parkinson,Strange,Darry,MSR,IWL not test options in my opinion.Looks a bit bare to me

                                        I would rate Justin Sangster, Naitoa Ah Kuoi, Zach Gallagher, Josh Beehre, over those locks.

                                        Strange (especially - he's never been anything above average, even at Super level.)

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                                          @Chris Darry has had conversations with Razor I've been informed but injury won't help the situation

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                                          @george33 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          @Chris Darry has had conversations with Razor I've been informed but injury won't help the situation

                                          So has Zach Gallagher and Jamie Hannah, doesn't always mean selection now, maybe work on for future selection

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