All Blacks 2024
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@booboo said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@booboo said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Telea
Haven't watched last night's game yet and gave no idea how he went, but my gut feel is he's been quiet this year.
This must be a troll? He scored three trys and was his usual untackle-able self.
You talking last night? Sorry thought I made it clear I hadn't watched last night yet.
And it was my gut feel over the season perhaps influenced by high expectations. Certainly felt the Saders kept him under control.
I'd still pick him.
Yeah he's been pretty anon this year so far
Imo he's been awesome, those rankings look about right6 Hoskins Sotutu
5 Mark Telea
3 Akira Ioane
3 Patrick Tuipulotu
3 Dalton Papalii
3 Sam Darry
3 Ofa Tu'ungafasi
2 Zarn Sullivan
2 Josh Beehre
1 Caleb Clarke
1 Laghlan McWhannell
1 Finlay Christie
1 Taufa FunakiFrom what I've seen hiss work-rate seems exceptionally high.
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Mate who knows his stuff reckons Roigard is probably patella tendon and if it's a full rupture, then we've seen the best of Roigard already.
@Bones according to Laidlaw on the news apparently Roigard’s seeing a specialist on Wednesday so will know the full extent of the injury after that. I’d say he’s defs out for the Canes season but hopefully he can make a few AB appearances this year.
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Mate who knows his stuff reckons Roigard is probably patella tendon and if it's a full rupture, then we've seen the best of Roigard already.
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Mate who knows his stuff reckons Roigard is probably patella tendon and if it's a full rupture, then we've seen the best of Roigard already.
I hope this is not the case but it has definitely crossed my mind that he may not be the same again.
I am trying to think of other talents that were looking 'special' before injury curtailed them. The great MJ springs to mind but he reinvented himself and Jonah as well. It's incredible to think Jonah did what he did while he was sick.
Jason Goldsmith? I am sure there is someone I have forgotten.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Mate who knows his stuff reckons Roigard is probably patella tendon and if it's a full rupture, then we've seen the best of Roigard already.
I hope this is not the case but it has definitely crossed my mind that he may not be the same again.
I am trying to think of other talents that were looking 'special' before injury curtailed them. The great MJ springs to mind but he reinvented himself and Jonah as well. It's incredible to think Jonah did what he did while he was sick.
Jason Goldsmith? I am sure there is someone I have forgotten.
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@Canes4life
Update = I'll know on Tuesday.@Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Canes4life
Update = I'll know on Tuesday.Thanks, saved time finding out about update = I'll update you on Tuesday!
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Mate who knows his stuff reckons Roigard is probably patella tendon and if it's a full rupture, then we've seen the best of Roigard already.
I hope this is not the case but it has definitely crossed my mind that he may not be the same again.
I am trying to think of other talents that were looking 'special' before injury curtailed them. The great MJ springs to mind but he reinvented himself and Jonah as well. It's incredible to think Jonah did what he did while he was sick.
Jason Goldsmith? I am sure there is someone I have forgotten.
@Crazy-Horse yeah reckons if it's only partial then with good rehab he can get back close to what he was.
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@Crazy-Horse Marshall was a different player after the achilles injury
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Crazy-Horse Marshall was a different player after the achilles injury
Yeah he was too. Same with Kirwan.
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@Crazy-Horse yeah reckons if it's only partial then with good rehab he can get back close to what he was.
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Crazy-Horse yeah reckons if it's only partial then with good rehab he can get back close to what he was.
Let’s all hope it isn’t career changing.
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Just a little bit of analysis:
Our top four opponents are probably South Africa, France, Ireland, and England. Let's look at our records against them in the last World Cup cycle.
South Africa: 3-4
France: 0-2
Ireland: 2-3
England: 0-1-0Where do we need to improve technical aspects or tactics against these larger forward pack teams? Ruck work, kicking game (exits ...), more modern defence?
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Just a little bit of analysis:
Our top four opponents are probably South Africa, France, Ireland, and England. Let's look at our records against them in the last World Cup cycle.
South Africa: 3-4
France: 0-2
Ireland: 2-3
England: 0-1-0Where do we need to improve technical aspects or tactics against these larger forward pack teams? Ruck work, kicking game (exits ...), more modern defence?
@Tim handling skills and game plan. The last cycle was an absolute mish mash of game plans that didn't mix well ( and probably due to being) combined with awful handling. That's about it for me.
So maybe even just need one of those aspects to not be amateur to improve drastically.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Mate who knows his stuff reckons Roigard is probably patella tendon and if it's a full rupture, then we've seen the best of Roigard already.
I hope this is not the case but it has definitely crossed my mind that he may not be the same again.
I am trying to think of other talents that were looking 'special' before injury curtailed them. The great MJ springs to mind but he reinvented himself and Jonah as well. It's incredible to think Jonah did what he did while he was sick.
Jason Goldsmith? I am sure there is someone I have forgotten.
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Mate who knows his stuff reckons Roigard is probably patella tendon and if it's a full rupture, then we've seen the best of Roigard already.
I hope this is not the case but it has definitely crossed my mind that he may not be the same again.
I am trying to think of other talents that were looking 'special' before injury curtailed them. The great MJ springs to mind but he reinvented himself and Jonah as well. It's incredible to think Jonah did what he did while he was sick.
Jason Goldsmith? I am sure there is someone I have forgotten.
That ginga lock Ryan, I think?
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@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Mate who knows his stuff reckons Roigard is probably patella tendon and if it's a full rupture, then we've seen the best of Roigard already.
I hope this is not the case but it has definitely crossed my mind that he may not be the same again.
I am trying to think of other talents that were looking 'special' before injury curtailed them. The great MJ springs to mind but he reinvented himself and Jonah as well. It's incredible to think Jonah did what he did while he was sick.
Jason Goldsmith? I am sure there is someone I have forgotten.
That ginga lock Ryan, I think?
@booboo Nehe Milner Skudder and Richard Kahui to add to the list.
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Pointless speculating about this until he has had a scan.
Knee surgeries have come a long way since the time of MJ etc. I wouldn’t be retiring him just yet boys
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@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Mate who knows his stuff reckons Roigard is probably patella tendon and if it's a full rupture, then we've seen the best of Roigard already.
I hope this is not the case but it has definitely crossed my mind that he may not be the same again.
I am trying to think of other talents that were looking 'special' before injury curtailed them. The great MJ springs to mind but he reinvented himself and Jonah as well. It's incredible to think Jonah did what he did while he was sick.
Jason Goldsmith? I am sure there is someone I have forgotten.
That ginga lock Ryan, I think?
@booboo said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Mate who knows his stuff reckons Roigard is probably patella tendon and if it's a full rupture, then we've seen the best of Roigard already.
I hope this is not the case but it has definitely crossed my mind that he may not be the same again.
I am trying to think of other talents that were looking 'special' before injury curtailed them. The great MJ springs to mind but he reinvented himself and Jonah as well. It's incredible to think Jonah did what he did while he was sick.
Jason Goldsmith? I am sure there is someone I have forgotten.
That ginga lock Ryan, I think?
I’m fairly sure he retired for work reasons.
He then went to the doctors from Face/off for a new look and decided to play for Ireland
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Mate who knows his stuff reckons Roigard is probably patella tendon and if it's a full rupture, then we've seen the best of Roigard already.
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Mate who knows his stuff reckons Roigard is probably patella tendon and if it's a full rupture, then we've seen the best of Roigard already.
We've already seen one halfback fucked by a knee injury. A second in three years would be a pretty bitter pill to swallow.
