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  • frugbyF frugby

    Honestly think there is every chance that the Hurricanes is the only the team to provide the first All Blacks squad with uncapped players...

    Chance for a bolter at lock (Walker-Leawere?) and in the loose (Iose?), but outside of that, looking at Numia, Procter and Love as the most likely uncapped players to get call-ups.

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    @frugby said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    Honestly think there is every chance that the Hurricanes is the only the team to provide the first All Blacks squad with uncapped players...

    Chance for a bolter at lock (Walker-Leawere?) and in the loose (Iose?), but outside of that, looking at Numia, Procter and Love as the most likely uncapped players to get call-ups.

    I can't see Numia getting a look in unless there's an injury or two. We are prop rich this year.

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    • BonesB Bones

      @frugby said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      Honestly think there is every chance that the Hurricanes is the only the team to provide the first All Blacks squad with uncapped players...

      Chance for a bolter at lock (Walker-Leawere?) and in the loose (Iose?), but outside of that, looking at Numia, Procter and Love as the most likely uncapped players to get call-ups.

      I can't see Numia getting a look in unless there's an injury or two. We are prop rich this year.

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      @Bones Numia is in great touch but I think you’re right, might have to take a few injuries for him to get chance. I just hope he gets in so we can finally say we have a test match front row. Not sure if the Canes ever have tbh.

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      • BonesB Bones

        @Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

        The Chiefs' halfbacks haven't really taken their chances so far, but that may change by the end of the season.

        I really like Ratima's game for test rugby - but yeah he seemed a bit flat against the saders. Reckon Roe is the most Smith like, be interesting to see how he develops.

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        @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

        @Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

        The Chiefs' halfbacks haven't really taken their chances so far, but that may change by the end of the season.

        I really like Ratima's game for test rugby - but yeah he seemed a bit flat against the saders. Reckon Roe is the most Smith like, be interesting to see how he develops.

        Didn’t Roe start?

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        • frugbyF frugby

          Honestly think there is every chance that the Hurricanes is the only the team to provide the first All Blacks squad with uncapped players...

          Chance for a bolter at lock (Walker-Leawere?) and in the loose (Iose?), but outside of that, looking at Numia, Procter and Love as the most likely uncapped players to get call-ups.

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          @frugby I think Proctor and Love are really good chances of making it. I think one of Iose, Lakai or Kirifi will get in, Iose most likely on form. Walker-Leawere has the size for test rugby but needs to show he can consistently play top level rugby, he was really good last week but I don’t think he’ll get picked unless he dominates for the rest of the year. I think our most underrated player is Caleb Delany, he’s been exceptional for the Canes and hopefully he’s in the conversation because he’s been bloody good for a long time now, so much better than James Blackwell. Good to have a number of players in the convo as a Canes fan.

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          • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

            @frugby I think Proctor and Love are really good chances of making it. I think one of Iose, Lakai or Kirifi will get in, Iose most likely on form. Walker-Leawere has the size for test rugby but needs to show he can consistently play top level rugby, he was really good last week but I don’t think he’ll get picked unless he dominates for the rest of the year. I think our most underrated player is Caleb Delany, he’s been exceptional for the Canes and hopefully he’s in the conversation because he’s been bloody good for a long time now, so much better than James Blackwell. Good to have a number of players in the convo as a Canes fan.

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            @Canes4life any thoughts on non-Canes?

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            • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

              i think Roigard's "issues" at the world cup have been really overblown

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              @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              i think Roigard's "issues" at the world cup have been really overblown

              His positives far outweighed any negatives. Good head on him too.

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              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                @Canes4life any thoughts on non-Canes?

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                @KiwiMurph I did a post a couple weeks ago on players who I thought were in the running on form. I like the look at what Sotutu has done so far this year, I think Stevenson for the Chiefs has continued his hot form from last year but I think he goes missing a bit when DMac isn’t there. Definitely a class finisher though.

                Reece is another that should get a recall, he’s been one of the best going around both offensively and defensively.

                I like the look of Hannah from the Saders and Beehre from the Blues but I think they might be a tad too young yet for the next level. Same with Fabian Holland who isn’t eligible yet anyway.

                I like what Harmon has done for the Landers over the last few years but I think he’ll be in competition for that one spot with quite a number of form loosies across NZ so it’s hard to say. Got plenty of depth in that area atm.

                Someone posted an All Blacks XV on form (below) I like what I see. 😉

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                • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                  @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  i think Roigard's "issues" at the world cup have been really overblown

                  His positives far outweighed any negatives. Good head on him too.

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                  @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  i think Roigard's "issues" at the world cup have been really overblown

                  His positives far outweighed any negatives. Good head on him too.

                  Arguably a big difference between us winning the final and losing it

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                  • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    i think Roigard's "issues" at the world cup have been really overblown

                    His positives far outweighed any negatives. Good head on him too.

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                    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    i think Roigard's "issues" at the world cup have been really overblown

                    His positives far outweighed any negatives. Good head on him too.

                    Reminds me of a meme that @Bones commented on.

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                    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                      @KiwiMurph I did a post a couple weeks ago on players who I thought were in the running on form. I like the look at what Sotutu has done so far this year, I think Stevenson for the Chiefs has continued his hot form from last year but I think he goes missing a bit when DMac isn’t there. Definitely a class finisher though.

                      Reece is another that should get a recall, he’s been one of the best going around both offensively and defensively.

                      I like the look of Hannah from the Saders and Beehre from the Blues but I think they might be a tad too young yet for the next level. Same with Fabian Holland who isn’t eligible yet anyway.

                      I like what Harmon has done for the Landers over the last few years but I think he’ll be in competition for that one spot with quite a number of form loosies across NZ so it’s hard to say. Got plenty of depth in that area atm.

                      Someone posted an All Blacks XV on form (below) I like what I see. 😉

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                      @Canes4life oh yeah, "someone" eh. I think from that selection we know who....

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                      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                        @Bones Numia is in great touch but I think you’re right, might have to take a few injuries for him to get chance. I just hope he gets in so we can finally say we have a test match front row. Not sure if the Canes ever have tbh.

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                        @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        @Bones Numia is in great touch but I think you’re right, might have to take a few injuries for him to get chance. I just hope he gets in so we can finally say we have a test match front row. Not sure if the Canes ever have tbh.

                        Depends how they view Ofa...

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                          Sam Whitelock has just announced his retirement from playing Rugby at the end of June. So Razor will definitely need to find another go-to Lock.

                          https://twitter.com/sectionpaloise/status/1775116662989054066

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                          • G george33

                            @Bones didn't say he was the worst by any means at all , my opinion he ain't the best either and I did say he will get there eventually, but he's missing 2 big ingredients to be in AB starting 23 at the moment, that's what I've heard, not winding U up at all ,and obviously gone for 8 months or more apparently, won't matter until next season,

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                            @george33 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            @Bones didn't say he was the worst by any means at all , my opinion he ain't the best either and I did say he will get there eventually, but he's missing 2 big ingredients to be in AB starting 23 at the moment, that's what I've heard, not winding U up at all ,and obviously gone for 8 months or more apparently, won't matter until next season,

                            Possibly due to the Chiefs environment not working for him

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                            • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                              @KiwiMurph I did a post a couple weeks ago on players who I thought were in the running on form. I like the look at what Sotutu has done so far this year, I think Stevenson for the Chiefs has continued his hot form from last year but I think he goes missing a bit when DMac isn’t there. Definitely a class finisher though.

                              Reece is another that should get a recall, he’s been one of the best going around both offensively and defensively.

                              I like the look of Hannah from the Saders and Beehre from the Blues but I think they might be a tad too young yet for the next level. Same with Fabian Holland who isn’t eligible yet anyway.

                              I like what Harmon has done for the Landers over the last few years but I think he’ll be in competition for that one spot with quite a number of form loosies across NZ so it’s hard to say. Got plenty of depth in that area atm.

                              Someone posted an All Blacks XV on form (below) I like what I see. 😉

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                              @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              @KiwiMurph I did a post a couple weeks ago on players who I thought were in the running on form. I like the look at what Sotutu has done so far this year, I think Stevenson for the Chiefs has continued his hot form from last year but I think he goes missing a bit when DMac isn’t there. Definitely a class finisher though.

                              Reece is another that should get a recall, he’s been one of the best going around both offensively and defensively.

                              I like the look of Hannah from the Saders and Beehre from the Blues but I think they might be a tad too young yet for the next level. Same with Fabian Holland who isn’t eligible yet anyway.

                              I like what Harmon has done for the Landers over the last few years but I think he’ll be in competition for that one spot with quite a number of form loosies across NZ so it’s hard to say. Got plenty of depth in that area atm.

                              Someone posted an All Blacks XV on form (below) I like what I see. 😉

                              Lakai must be in contention for a starting 7 spot.

                              But another not even t inconsideration who has impressed is Tosi. He's been superb when replacing Lomax

                              Anoth r who has further improved this year is IWL. In great form so far

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                                Great career, time for the ABs to move on

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                                • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                  @KiwiMurph I did a post a couple weeks ago on players who I thought were in the running on form. I like the look at what Sotutu has done so far this year, I think Stevenson for the Chiefs has continued his hot form from last year but I think he goes missing a bit when DMac isn’t there. Definitely a class finisher though.

                                  Reece is another that should get a recall, he’s been one of the best going around both offensively and defensively.

                                  I like the look of Hannah from the Saders and Beehre from the Blues but I think they might be a tad too young yet for the next level. Same with Fabian Holland who isn’t eligible yet anyway.

                                  I like what Harmon has done for the Landers over the last few years but I think he’ll be in competition for that one spot with quite a number of form loosies across NZ so it’s hard to say. Got plenty of depth in that area atm.

                                  Someone posted an All Blacks XV on form (below) I like what I see. 😉

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                                  @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

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                                  @KiwiMurph I did a post a couple weeks ago on players who I thought were in the running on form. I like the look at what Sotutu has done so far this year, I think Stevenson for the Chiefs has continued his hot form from last year but I think he goes missing a bit when DMac isn’t there. Definitely a class finisher though.

                                  Reece is another that should get a recall, he’s been one of the best going around both offensively and defensively.

                                  I like the look of Hannah from the Saders and Beehre from the Blues but I think they might be a tad too young yet for the next level. Same with Fabian Holland who isn’t eligible yet anyway.

                                  I like what Harmon has done for the Landers over the last few years but I think he’ll be in competition for that one spot with quite a number of form loosies across NZ so it’s hard to say. Got plenty of depth in that area atm.

                                  Someone posted an All Blacks XV on form (below) I like what I see. 😉

                                  Is the_rugbybooth a hurricanes fan account?

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                                  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                    @frugby I think Proctor and Love are really good chances of making it. I think one of Iose, Lakai or Kirifi will get in, Iose most likely on form. Walker-Leawere has the size for test rugby but needs to show he can consistently play top level rugby, he was really good last week but I don’t think he’ll get picked unless he dominates for the rest of the year. I think our most underrated player is Caleb Delany, he’s been exceptional for the Canes and hopefully he’s in the conversation because he’s been bloody good for a long time now, so much better than James Blackwell. Good to have a number of players in the convo as a Canes fan.

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                                    @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                    I think one of Iose, Lakai or Kirifi will get in, Iose most likely on form. Walker-Leawere

                                    Regarding the Canes forwards

                                    My view is I'Il be surprised if Lakai misses out. (He's easily good enough to start at 7). Kirifi and Iosi - surprised if they make it. Even though both have been in great form.

                                    Lomax's a certainty. Aumua should be too (but the Crusaders factor). IWL is playing like an AB and IMO is easily our best lock. Tosi is also putting his hand up. As is Numia. But would put them in a surprise if they make it but are both good enough.

                                    Delany could be considered as a 6 lock option.

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                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350232858/former-all-black-sam-whitelock-retires-ends-speculation-shock-comeback

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                                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350232858/former-all-black-sam-whitelock-retires-ends-speculation-shock-comeback

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                                        @Tim Sam W's done the ABs a massive favour by shutting down the speculation of a possible return. It was clumsy by Razor and co. to set the hares racing on that.

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                                          @Canes4life oh yeah, "someone" eh. I think from that selection we know who....

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                                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          @Canes4life oh yeah, "someone" eh. I think from that selection we know who....

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