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  • DuluthD Offline
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    Duluth
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    #892

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350241189/fijian-drua-star-frank-lomani-hit-six-week-ban-elbowing-melbourne-rebels-lock

    6 weeks for Lomani
    2 weeks for Koroiduadua

    Soft

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    • mariner4lifeM Online
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      mariner4life
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      #893

      6 weeks is light for rugby for that incident.
      But in a comp of this length i reckon it's about right

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      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

        6 weeks is light for rugby for that incident.
        But in a comp of this length i reckon it's about right

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        wrote on last edited by
        #894

        @mariner4life said in Super Rugby 2024:

        But in a comp of this length i reckon it's about right

        The competition length is irrelevant

        Anyway here's the rulings. Discounts for early pleas etc
        lomani-suspended
        koroiduadua-suspended

        Rugby has been having a crack down on high tackles for years because of CTE worries. It seems inconsistent to give light sentences for foul play directed at an opponents head

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        • DuluthD Duluth

          @mariner4life said in Super Rugby 2024:

          But in a comp of this length i reckon it's about right

          The competition length is irrelevant

          Anyway here's the rulings. Discounts for early pleas etc
          lomani-suspended
          koroiduadua-suspended

          Rugby has been having a crack down on high tackles for years because of CTE worries. It seems inconsistent to give light sentences for foul play directed at an opponents head

          Canes4lifeC Offline
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          Canes4life
          wrote on last edited by
          #895

          @Duluth agree, 2 weeks for a headbutt is a joke.

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          • KirwanK Offline
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            Kirwan
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            #896

            That is hilarious, neither were rugby related incidents either, just filth.

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            • taniwharugbyT Offline
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              taniwharugby
              wrote on last edited by taniwharugby
              #897

              Mose Tuiali'i copped 3 weeks for a headbutt that was akin to an over zealous hongi

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              • DuluthD Offline
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                Duluth
                wrote on last edited by
                #898

                The future of Super Rugby conversation continues here:
                https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/6616/super-rugby-the-future/86

                Lets keep this thread about the current season

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                • DuluthD Duluth

                  The future of Super Rugby conversation continues here:
                  https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/6616/super-rugby-the-future/86

                  Lets keep this thread about the current season

                  KiwiwombleK Online
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                  Kiwiwomble
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #899

                  @Duluth seeing as our season is all but over....i'll just move of there.....;)

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                  • M Offline
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                    Machpants
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                    #900

                    Interesting way to look at the comp so far

                    https://www.rugbypass.com/news/super-rugby-schedule-strength-toughest-remaining/

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                    • BovidaeB Offline
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                      Bovidae
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                      #901

                      The Blues end with 4 NZ derbies.

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                      • M Machpants

                        Interesting way to look at the comp so far

                        https://www.rugbypass.com/news/super-rugby-schedule-strength-toughest-remaining/

                        DuluthD Offline
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                        Duluth
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #902

                        @Machpants

                        Similar number of derby games left. The Blues number is largely about not playing the best Aussies sides yet (Brumbies, Rebels, Reds)

                        In terms of the run home, I think Home games remaining is worth looking at too. Chiefs have 2 of the last 7 at home. Blues 4 of the last 7. Canes 4 of the next 8

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                        • TimT Away
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                          Tim
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                          #903

                          Blues have played three NZ teams and are 2 and 1, with a loss to the top team.

                          Chiefs have played three NZ derby games and are 2 and 1, with a loss to the bottom team. They've also played the bottom NZ team twice and the second bottom NZ team once.

                          Hurricanes have played three NZ teams, including the bottom two, but beat the Blues and are 3 and 0.

                          Highlanders have played the top three NZ teams and are 0 and 3. They have not played the bottom team yet.

                          Crusaders have played the top three NZ teams over four games, and are 1 and 3. Really shithouse performance from the Chiefs in that one. Some very lazy tackling, especially from non number 8 Jacobson.

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                          • DuluthD Duluth

                            @Machpants

                            Similar number of derby games left. The Blues number is largely about not playing the best Aussies sides yet (Brumbies, Rebels, Reds)

                            In terms of the run home, I think Home games remaining is worth looking at too. Chiefs have 2 of the last 7 at home. Blues 4 of the last 7. Canes 4 of the next 8

                            TimT Away
                            TimT Away
                            Tim
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #904

                            @Duluth Given the Chiefs' poor away form so far, that must be a concern for them.

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                              #905

                              Ball carriers hitting the ground as a result of a tackle attempt, being millimetres out of someone's grasp and being allowed to get up and go again, because they weren't "held".

                              It's happening way too much in super rugby this year - at least fucken make them release the ball if they've hit the ground, but this isn't happening.

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                                Bones
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                                #906

                                Also getting sick of watching kickers walk up to the mark for a penalty when kicking for touch then starting their 5m run up to kick.

                                Fucks sake, why don't the refs concentrate on the basics and build from there?

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                                • BonesB Bones

                                  Also getting sick of watching kickers walk up to the mark for a penalty when kicking for touch then starting their 5m run up to kick.

                                  Fucks sake, why don't the refs concentrate on the basics and build from there?

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                                  taniwharugby
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                                  #907

                                  @Bones tbf that one had been happening for years, see it at the top level too.

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                                  • BonesB Bones

                                    Ball carriers hitting the ground as a result of a tackle attempt, being millimetres out of someone's grasp and being allowed to get up and go again, because they weren't "held".

                                    It's happening way too much in super rugby this year - at least fucken make them release the ball if they've hit the ground, but this isn't happening.

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                                    delicatessen
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                                    #908

                                    @Bones said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                    Ball carriers hitting the ground as a result of a tackle attempt, being millimetres out of someone's grasp and being allowed to get up and go again, because they weren't "held".

                                    It's happening way too much in super rugby this year - at least fucken make them release the ball if they've hit the ground, but this isn't happening.

                                    What's the law here? Just need to touch ball carrier when he's tackled? In which case they're well within their rights to do what you're saying. A miss is as good as a mile.

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                                    • D delicatessen

                                      @Bones said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                      Ball carriers hitting the ground as a result of a tackle attempt, being millimetres out of someone's grasp and being allowed to get up and go again, because they weren't "held".

                                      It's happening way too much in super rugby this year - at least fucken make them release the ball if they've hit the ground, but this isn't happening.

                                      What's the law here? Just need to touch ball carrier when he's tackled? In which case they're well within their rights to do what you're saying. A miss is as good as a mile.

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                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #909

                                      @delicatessen said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                      @Bones said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                      Ball carriers hitting the ground as a result of a tackle attempt, being millimetres out of someone's grasp and being allowed to get up and go again, because they weren't "held".

                                      It's happening way too much in super rugby this year - at least fucken make them release the ball if they've hit the ground, but this isn't happening.

                                      What's the law here? Just need to touch ball carrier when he's tackled? In which case they're well within their rights to do what you're saying. A miss is as good as a mile.

                                      How did they end up on the ground? What's the law on not releasing the ball when on the ground?

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                                      • BonesB Bones

                                        @delicatessen said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                        @Bones said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                        Ball carriers hitting the ground as a result of a tackle attempt, being millimetres out of someone's grasp and being allowed to get up and go again, because they weren't "held".

                                        It's happening way too much in super rugby this year - at least fucken make them release the ball if they've hit the ground, but this isn't happening.

                                        What's the law here? Just need to touch ball carrier when he's tackled? In which case they're well within their rights to do what you're saying. A miss is as good as a mile.

                                        How did they end up on the ground? What's the law on not releasing the ball when on the ground?

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                                        delicatessen
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #910

                                        @Bones said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                        @delicatessen said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                        @Bones said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                        Ball carriers hitting the ground as a result of a tackle attempt, being millimetres out of someone's grasp and being allowed to get up and go again, because they weren't "held".

                                        It's happening way too much in super rugby this year - at least fucken make them release the ball if they've hit the ground, but this isn't happening.

                                        What's the law here? Just need to touch ball carrier when he's tackled? In which case they're well within their rights to do what you're saying. A miss is as good as a mile.

                                        How did they end up on the ground? What's the law on not releasing the ball when on the ground?

                                        Was genuinely asking. Presumably the 'not held' call means a tackle hasn't been completed. If someone falls over while receiving a deep kick do they have to release the ball?

                                        I would be way more/less sure of my ground if I could be arsed looking up the relevant laws.

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                                        • D delicatessen

                                          @Bones said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                          @delicatessen said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                          @Bones said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                          Ball carriers hitting the ground as a result of a tackle attempt, being millimetres out of someone's grasp and being allowed to get up and go again, because they weren't "held".

                                          It's happening way too much in super rugby this year - at least fucken make them release the ball if they've hit the ground, but this isn't happening.

                                          What's the law here? Just need to touch ball carrier when he's tackled? In which case they're well within their rights to do what you're saying. A miss is as good as a mile.

                                          How did they end up on the ground? What's the law on not releasing the ball when on the ground?

                                          Was genuinely asking. Presumably the 'not held' call means a tackle hasn't been completed. If someone falls over while receiving a deep kick do they have to release the ball?

                                          I would be way more/less sure of my ground if I could be arsed looking up the relevant laws.

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                                          Bones
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #911

                                          @delicatessen said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                          If someone falls over while receiving a deep kick do they have to release the ball?

                                          In theory I think yeah, but I think anyone is happy for the ref to use his discretion there. Happy to even let it slide probably in a situation like where someone gets ankle tapped and falls miles away from a defender.

                                          If a ball carrier bounces slightly out of a tackler"s grasp as they hit the ground, that's a tackle to me. It does irk a lot more when the tackler has clearly released on purpose cos...well... that's the law.

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