Super Rugby 2024
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@mariner4life said in Super Rugby 2024:
But in a comp of this length i reckon it's about right
The competition length is irrelevant
Anyway here's the rulings. Discounts for early pleas etc
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koroiduadua-suspendedRugby has been having a crack down on high tackles for years because of CTE worries. It seems inconsistent to give light sentences for foul play directed at an opponents head
@Duluth agree, 2 weeks for a headbutt is a joke.
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Mose Tuiali'i copped 3 weeks for a headbutt that was akin to an over zealous hongi
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The future of Super Rugby conversation continues here:
https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/6616/super-rugby-the-future/86Lets keep this thread about the current season
@Duluth seeing as our season is all but over....i'll just move of there.....;)
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Interesting way to look at the comp so far
https://www.rugbypass.com/news/super-rugby-schedule-strength-toughest-remaining/
Similar number of derby games left. The Blues number is largely about not playing the best Aussies sides yet (Brumbies, Rebels, Reds)
In terms of the run home, I think Home games remaining is worth looking at too. Chiefs have 2 of the last 7 at home. Blues 4 of the last 7. Canes 4 of the next 8
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Blues have played three NZ teams and are 2 and 1, with a loss to the top team.
Chiefs have played three NZ derby games and are 2 and 1, with a loss to the bottom team. They've also played the bottom NZ team twice and the second bottom NZ team once.
Hurricanes have played three NZ teams, including the bottom two, but beat the Blues and are 3 and 0.
Highlanders have played the top three NZ teams and are 0 and 3. They have not played the bottom team yet.
Crusaders have played the top three NZ teams over four games, and are 1 and 3. Really shithouse performance from the Chiefs in that one. Some very lazy tackling, especially from non number 8 Jacobson.
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Similar number of derby games left. The Blues number is largely about not playing the best Aussies sides yet (Brumbies, Rebels, Reds)
In terms of the run home, I think Home games remaining is worth looking at too. Chiefs have 2 of the last 7 at home. Blues 4 of the last 7. Canes 4 of the next 8
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Ball carriers hitting the ground as a result of a tackle attempt, being millimetres out of someone's grasp and being allowed to get up and go again, because they weren't "held".
It's happening way too much in super rugby this year - at least fucken make them release the ball if they've hit the ground, but this isn't happening.
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Also getting sick of watching kickers walk up to the mark for a penalty when kicking for touch then starting their 5m run up to kick.
Fucks sake, why don't the refs concentrate on the basics and build from there?
@Bones tbf that one had been happening for years, see it at the top level too.
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Ball carriers hitting the ground as a result of a tackle attempt, being millimetres out of someone's grasp and being allowed to get up and go again, because they weren't "held".
It's happening way too much in super rugby this year - at least fucken make them release the ball if they've hit the ground, but this isn't happening.
@Bones said in Super Rugby 2024:
Ball carriers hitting the ground as a result of a tackle attempt, being millimetres out of someone's grasp and being allowed to get up and go again, because they weren't "held".
It's happening way too much in super rugby this year - at least fucken make them release the ball if they've hit the ground, but this isn't happening.
What's the law here? Just need to touch ball carrier when he's tackled? In which case they're well within their rights to do what you're saying. A miss is as good as a mile.
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@Bones said in Super Rugby 2024:
Ball carriers hitting the ground as a result of a tackle attempt, being millimetres out of someone's grasp and being allowed to get up and go again, because they weren't "held".
It's happening way too much in super rugby this year - at least fucken make them release the ball if they've hit the ground, but this isn't happening.
What's the law here? Just need to touch ball carrier when he's tackled? In which case they're well within their rights to do what you're saying. A miss is as good as a mile.
@delicatessen said in Super Rugby 2024:
@Bones said in Super Rugby 2024:
Ball carriers hitting the ground as a result of a tackle attempt, being millimetres out of someone's grasp and being allowed to get up and go again, because they weren't "held".
It's happening way too much in super rugby this year - at least fucken make them release the ball if they've hit the ground, but this isn't happening.
What's the law here? Just need to touch ball carrier when he's tackled? In which case they're well within their rights to do what you're saying. A miss is as good as a mile.
How did they end up on the ground? What's the law on not releasing the ball when on the ground?
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@delicatessen said in Super Rugby 2024:
@Bones said in Super Rugby 2024:
Ball carriers hitting the ground as a result of a tackle attempt, being millimetres out of someone's grasp and being allowed to get up and go again, because they weren't "held".
It's happening way too much in super rugby this year - at least fucken make them release the ball if they've hit the ground, but this isn't happening.
What's the law here? Just need to touch ball carrier when he's tackled? In which case they're well within their rights to do what you're saying. A miss is as good as a mile.
How did they end up on the ground? What's the law on not releasing the ball when on the ground?
@Bones said in Super Rugby 2024:
@delicatessen said in Super Rugby 2024:
@Bones said in Super Rugby 2024:
Ball carriers hitting the ground as a result of a tackle attempt, being millimetres out of someone's grasp and being allowed to get up and go again, because they weren't "held".
It's happening way too much in super rugby this year - at least fucken make them release the ball if they've hit the ground, but this isn't happening.
What's the law here? Just need to touch ball carrier when he's tackled? In which case they're well within their rights to do what you're saying. A miss is as good as a mile.
How did they end up on the ground? What's the law on not releasing the ball when on the ground?
Was genuinely asking. Presumably the 'not held' call means a tackle hasn't been completed. If someone falls over while receiving a deep kick do they have to release the ball?
I would be way more/less sure of my ground if I could be arsed looking up the relevant laws.
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@Bones said in Super Rugby 2024:
@delicatessen said in Super Rugby 2024:
@Bones said in Super Rugby 2024:
Ball carriers hitting the ground as a result of a tackle attempt, being millimetres out of someone's grasp and being allowed to get up and go again, because they weren't "held".
It's happening way too much in super rugby this year - at least fucken make them release the ball if they've hit the ground, but this isn't happening.
What's the law here? Just need to touch ball carrier when he's tackled? In which case they're well within their rights to do what you're saying. A miss is as good as a mile.
How did they end up on the ground? What's the law on not releasing the ball when on the ground?
Was genuinely asking. Presumably the 'not held' call means a tackle hasn't been completed. If someone falls over while receiving a deep kick do they have to release the ball?
I would be way more/less sure of my ground if I could be arsed looking up the relevant laws.
@delicatessen said in Super Rugby 2024:
If someone falls over while receiving a deep kick do they have to release the ball?
In theory I think yeah, but I think anyone is happy for the ref to use his discretion there. Happy to even let it slide probably in a situation like where someone gets ankle tapped and falls miles away from a defender.
If a ball carrier bounces slightly out of a tackler"s grasp as they hit the ground, that's a tackle to me. It does irk a lot more when the tackler has clearly released on purpose cos...well... that's the law.
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Also getting sick of watching kickers walk up to the mark for a penalty when kicking for touch then starting their 5m run up to kick.
Fucks sake, why don't the refs concentrate on the basics and build from there?
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@Bones said in Super Rugby 2024:
@delicatessen said in Super Rugby 2024:
@Bones said in Super Rugby 2024:
Ball carriers hitting the ground as a result of a tackle attempt, being millimetres out of someone's grasp and being allowed to get up and go again, because they weren't "held".
It's happening way too much in super rugby this year - at least fucken make them release the ball if they've hit the ground, but this isn't happening.
What's the law here? Just need to touch ball carrier when he's tackled? In which case they're well within their rights to do what you're saying. A miss is as good as a mile.
How did they end up on the ground? What's the law on not releasing the ball when on the ground?
Was genuinely asking. Presumably the 'not held' call means a tackle hasn't been completed. If someone falls over while receiving a deep kick do they have to release the ball?
I would be way more/less sure of my ground if I could be arsed looking up the relevant laws.
@delicatessen said in Super Rugby 2024:
@Bones said in Super Rugby 2024:
@delicatessen said in Super Rugby 2024:
@Bones said in Super Rugby 2024:
Ball carriers hitting the ground as a result of a tackle attempt, being millimetres out of someone's grasp and being allowed to get up and go again, because they weren't "held".
It's happening way too much in super rugby this year - at least fucken make them release the ball if they've hit the ground, but this isn't happening.
What's the law here? Just need to touch ball carrier when he's tackled? In which case they're well within their rights to do what you're saying. A miss is as good as a mile.
How did they end up on the ground? What's the law on not releasing the ball when on the ground?
Was genuinely asking. Presumably the 'not held' call means a tackle hasn't been completed. If someone falls over while receiving a deep kick do they have to release the ball?
No. They have to make one of three actions "immediately": Get up off the ground, play the ball or release the ball.
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@Tim said in Super Rugby 2024:
@Duluth Given the Chiefs' poor away form so far, that must be a concern for them.
Chiefs have lost all their away games so far.
