Silver Lake buying a stake in the ABs?
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@Kiwiwomble said in Silver Lake buying a stake in the ABs?:
@Winger my understanding of the deal was they had actions in growing the revenue too, it wasn't a straight equity injection (we give you some money and you give us some profit later), silverlake sold the idea of tapping into new revenue streams they had access too...and we havent seen any of that
Aren't we hoping for a lot if we think these new revenure streams would be instant? I genuinely doubt whether SL wanted to just have a stake in NZR with no thoughts etc and ideas that it was going to get bigger. I think you can see it with leaning toward more games towards USA etc, and especially Asia. I actually think we will see even more games from MAB etc happening to spread the name and get even more markets opened I will still be surprised if we don't see some kind of online game in next 5 years or so.
@Dan54 obviously not all of them...but their first one (NZR+) hasn't been revolutionary/innovative or a success...so not a great start
notice im not saying ditch them...but would be good to see what else it planned
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NZR+ (to the best of my knowledge) doesn’t play games - everything still goes through TV deals. If they set it up to be an online rugby site with all games then it will quickly get members. The question is of course whether it’s worth running it in all markets, but in my case I I pay about $30 a month to a service I only use for rugby. I’d happily pay that directly to NZR+ but I doubt there are enough customers like me.
As a pay per game idea, it could have merit for people like my family who don’t have it but might pay $10-20 for a one match payment (eg, super final, AB games).
All of that is to say that any rugby space without actual live (or even delayed games) is always likely to be a failure.
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NZR+ (to the best of my knowledge) doesn’t play games - everything still goes through TV deals. If they set it up to be an online rugby site with all games then it will quickly get members. The question is of course whether it’s worth running it in all markets, but in my case I I pay about $30 a month to a service I only use for rugby. I’d happily pay that directly to NZR+ but I doubt there are enough customers like me.
As a pay per game idea, it could have merit for people like my family who don’t have it but might pay $10-20 for a one match payment (eg, super final, AB games).
All of that is to say that any rugby space without actual live (or even delayed games) is always likely to be a failure.
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@gt12 I'd love to give NZR whatever I give to Stan if that meant I could chose whether or not to listen to the commentary.
Unless they did something ‘hip’ like getting the NZR commentary by those fuckheads from the Alt cricket commentary.
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@Winger my understanding of the deal was they had actions in growing the revenue too, it wasn't a straight equity injection (we give you some money and you give us some profit later), silverlake sold the idea of tapping into new revenue streams they had access too...and we havent seen any of that
@Kiwiwomble said in Silver Lake buying a stake in the ABs?:
@Winger my understanding of the deal was they had actions in growing the revenue too, it wasn't a straight equity injection (we give you some money and you give us some profit later), silverlake sold the idea of tapping into new revenue streams they had access too...and we havent seen any of that
Always a big issue. The Neoclassical economics model is all about selling ownership for investment. It’s whether the investment is nothing more than finance you could have got from a bank. NZ’s state owned asset sales perfect example.
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@Kirwan same here, I don't watch too much else on Sky apart from the big golf tournaments and the odd F1 race.
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@Kirwan said in Silver Lake buying a stake in the ABs?:
I'd drop Sky for NZR+ if they streamed games. I don't watch anything else on Sky.
That's why I am on Sky Sport Now, I got rid of satellite. I think I have watched one thing on NZR+ but I like games and analysis, I'm not interested in the 'stars' as personalities and behind the scene 'insights' - so I'm not the target audience
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really feel like NZR are on a different planet, all the fluffy content "work" in other sports on the back of competitive and popular sports with engaged fan bases.... not independent of those things
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Ta$man v Welly not being broadcast here. Sky UK broadcasting fuck all games this year and seemingly at random, with many weekends no games at all (like this weekend). What the fuck is that about?
I thought silverlake was supposed help sort this kinda shit, not going to improve the product if you get even less eyes on it. Just went on the AB app for the first time in about a year and see it hasn't changed and a bit crap looking. Does what it needs to I guess but a bit of a crap experience and dislike how dated it seems with some pages showing old info compared to other pages.
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Ta$man v Welly not being broadcast here. Sky UK broadcasting fuck all games this year and seemingly at random, with many weekends no games at all (like this weekend). What the fuck is that about?
I thought silverlake was supposed help sort this kinda shit, not going to improve the product if you get even less eyes on it. Just went on the AB app for the first time in about a year and see it hasn't changed and a bit crap looking. Does what it needs to I guess but a bit of a crap experience and dislike how dated it seems with some pages showing old info compared to other pages.
@Bones said in Silver Lake buying a stake in the ABs?:
Ta$man v Welly not being broadcast here. Sky UK broadcasting fuck all games this year and seemingly at random, with many weekends no games at all (like this weekend). What the fuck is that about?
I thought silverlake was supposed help sort this kinda shit, not going to improve the product if you get even less eyes on it. Just went on the AB app for the first time in about a year and see it hasn't changed and a bit crap looking. Does what it needs to I guess but a bit of a crap experience and dislike how dated it seems with some pages showing old info compared to other pages.
They appear to be takers more than givers....
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Some parallels between Private Equity and Plastic Surgery.
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Ta$man v Welly not being broadcast here. Sky UK broadcasting fuck all games this year and seemingly at random, with many weekends no games at all (like this weekend). What the fuck is that about?
I thought silverlake was supposed help sort this kinda shit, not going to improve the product if you get even less eyes on it. Just went on the AB app for the first time in about a year and see it hasn't changed and a bit crap looking. Does what it needs to I guess but a bit of a crap experience and dislike how dated it seems with some pages showing old info compared to other pages.
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@sparky said in Silver Lake buying a stake in the ABs?:
@Bones The All Blacks website is terrible. The design feels ten years old of date.
I work for the design agency that looks after their site, it look's tens years out of date because it's probably that old. They don't like to spend money on the site so don't be expecting a refresh anytime soon.
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@sparky said in Silver Lake buying a stake in the ABs?:
@Bones The All Blacks website is terrible. The design feels ten years old of date.
I work for the design agency that looks after their site, it look's tens years out of date because it's probably that old. They don't like to spend money on the site so don't be expecting a refresh anytime soon.
@LABCAT said in Silver Lake buying a stake in the ABs?:
@sparky said in Silver Lake buying a stake in the ABs?:
@Bones The All Blacks website is terrible. The design feels ten years old of date.
I work for the design agency that looks after their site, it look's tens years out of date because it's probably that old. They don't like to spend money on the site so don't be expecting a refresh anytime soon.
Sounds pretty bizarre especially taking into account the release of NZR+ too. You guys involved in that?
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Ta$man v Welly not being broadcast here. Sky UK broadcasting fuck all games this year and seemingly at random, with many weekends no games at all (like this weekend). What the fuck is that about?
I thought silverlake was supposed help sort this kinda shit, not going to improve the product if you get even less eyes on it. Just went on the AB app for the first time in about a year and see it hasn't changed and a bit crap looking. Does what it needs to I guess but a bit of a crap experience and dislike how dated it seems with some pages showing old info compared to other pages.
@Bones said in Silver Lake buying a stake in the ABs?:
Ta$man v Welly not being broadcast here. Sky UK broadcasting fuck all games this year and seemingly at random, with many weekends no games at all (like this weekend). What the fuck is that about?
I thought silverlake was supposed help sort this kinda shit, not going to improve the product if you get even less eyes on it. Just went on the AB app for the first time in about a year and see it hasn't changed and a bit crap looking. Does what it needs to I guess but a bit of a crap experience and dislike how dated it seems with some pages showing old info compared to other pages.
I would guess Sky tv in UK decide what they broadcast, and probably weeks ahead, and not knowing it a shield challenge wasn't booked in??
I understand frustration at missing it etc, but we get same here in NZ mate, we see some Premiership games from England, but not all, and I get a bit pissed if they not showing the game I am interested in. Couple of years back I followed Bristol Bears got a few of their games but got to hard. I figured the tv channles don't have same priorities as me the bastards!! -
@LABCAT said in Silver Lake buying a stake in the ABs?:
@sparky said in Silver Lake buying a stake in the ABs?:
@Bones The All Blacks website is terrible. The design feels ten years old of date.
I work for the design agency that looks after their site, it look's tens years out of date because it's probably that old. They don't like to spend money on the site so don't be expecting a refresh anytime soon.
Sounds pretty bizarre especially taking into account the release of NZR+ too. You guys involved in that?
@Bones said in Silver Lake buying a stake in the ABs?:
@LABCAT said in Silver Lake buying a stake in the ABs?:
@sparky said in Silver Lake buying a stake in the ABs?:
@Bones The All Blacks website is terrible. The design feels ten years old of date.
I work for the design agency that looks after their site, it look's tens years out of date because it's probably that old. They don't like to spend money on the site so don't be expecting a refresh anytime soon.
Sounds pretty bizarre especially taking into account the release of NZR+ too. You guys involved in that?
That's mostly being done by another agency but our agency has done a little bit. The All Blacks site is looked after by a different team, so unfortunately I never get to work on it
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@Bones said in Silver Lake buying a stake in the ABs?:
@LABCAT said in Silver Lake buying a stake in the ABs?:
@sparky said in Silver Lake buying a stake in the ABs?:
@Bones The All Blacks website is terrible. The design feels ten years old of date.
I work for the design agency that looks after their site, it look's tens years out of date because it's probably that old. They don't like to spend money on the site so don't be expecting a refresh anytime soon.
Sounds pretty bizarre especially taking into account the release of NZR+ too. You guys involved in that?
That's mostly being done by another agency but our agency has done a little bit. The All Blacks site is looked after by a different team, so unfortunately I never get to work on it
@LABCAT said in Silver Lake buying a stake in the ABs?:
so unfortunately I never get to work on it
ha, I can imagine someone coming across a random All Black profile of LabCat on the website and associated blurb about his career :face_with_tears_of_joy:
