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  • F family man

    Anyone think Daniel Rona has a chance of making all black squad?
    Every time I see him play he impresses me,always makes good decisions

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    Canes4life
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    @family-man maybe ABs XV but not ABs yet. Needs to be a regular starter for the Chiefs first.

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    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

      @family-man maybe ABs XV but not ABs yet. Needs to be a regular starter for the Chiefs first.

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      @Canes4life good point but personally I think he should be 1st choice for chiefs .
      Don’t think alb has done enough this season

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        No love for Narawa? As good as Clarke's been, I'd have him (Clarke) 4th in line.

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          No love for Narawa? As good as Clarke's been, I'd have him (Clarke) 4th in line.

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          family man
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          @Bones I agree with you 100 percent

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          • BonesB Bones

            No love for Narawa? As good as Clarke's been, I'd have him (Clarke) 4th in line.

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            Canes4life
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            @Bones how many outsides do the ABs carry?

            Atm I’d have Reece (best winger this year), Telea, Narawa, Clarke, Love and Stevenson but I feel like I’m missing someone noting that Jordan is injured.

            Not bad at all IMO

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            • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

              @Bones how many outsides do the ABs carry?

              Atm I’d have Reece (best winger this year), Telea, Narawa, Clarke, Love and Stevenson but I feel like I’m missing someone noting that Jordan is injured.

              Not bad at all IMO

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              family man
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              @Canes4life jrk maybe? Been good in a disappointing highlanders team

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              • F family man

                Anyone think Daniel Rona has a chance of making all black squad?
                Every time I see him play he impresses me,always makes good decisions

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                ruggabee
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                @family-man said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                Anyone think Daniel Rona has a chance of making all black squad?
                Every time I see him play he impresses me,always makes good decisions

                I've been calling for McMillan to start Daniel Rona at 11 over Nanai-Seturo since last year, he's much stronger in contact and is a superior defender than ENS, it also means you can have both Poihipi and Tupaea in the 23 (assuming ALB starts at centre).

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                • F family man

                  @Canes4life jrk maybe? Been good in a disappointing highlanders team

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                  @family-man said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  @Canes4life jrk maybe? Been good in a disappointing highlanders team

                  I just don't see him being international level (yet). Give him another season of actually starting.

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                    The best thing about each AB season for me is seeing how the newbies impact the team and whether we unearth any future stars. The two players I was most looking forward to seeing this year were Finau and Roigard......

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                      Oh, and that we'd get a good look at Josh Lord.

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                      • F Frank

                        The best thing about each AB season for me is seeing how the newbies impact the team and whether we unearth any future stars. The two players I was most looking forward to seeing this year were Finau and Roigard......

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                        @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        The best thing about each AB season for me is seeing how the newbies impact the team and whether we unearth any future stars. The two players I was most looking forward to seeing this year were Finau and Roigard......

                        Absolutely!

                        For me it’s Christie and Vaa’i

                        💪

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                        • M Mr Fish

                          I think a lack of physicality at 12 is a much bigger issue on defence than attack - but I don't think there have been any noticeable defensive flaws in Havili's game at international at level, it's mainly when he's been ineffective on the crash ball that he's copped criticism.

                          If Havili can hold his ground on defence at 12 then I can definitely see some upsides to his selection there if Robertson gets a bit creative (which I hope he does).

                          That's not to suggest that Havili is a better option at 12 than Barrett or even necessarily up to international standard, but I won't be writing him off just yet because of how he was used under Foster.

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                          @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                          I won't be writing him off just yet because of how he was used under Foster.

                          You are George Bridge and I claim my free bag of chips.

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                            What has been said officially about the All Blacks XV in 2024? Can't see anything on AllBlacks.com, but what's new?!

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                              What has been said officially about the All Blacks XV in 2024? Can't see anything on AllBlacks.com, but what's new?!

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                              @pakman they are playing Munster in November. Possibly Georgia as well

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                                Wonder if the ABs XV will be picked by the same selection committee thats doing ABs? Haven't really checked as yet.

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                                  Wonder if the ABs XV will be picked by the same selection committee thats doing ABs? Haven't really checked as yet.

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                                  African Monkey
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                                  @Dan54 Was it 2022 when virtually evey Canterbury/fringe Crusaders player got picked? Guys like Dom Gardiner, Finlay Brewis, Zach Gallagher etc? Fuck me lol.

                                  Hopefully we don't go down that track again whoever the selectors are.

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                                    The All Blacks outstide backs don't really matter. They could pick any collection of players, and they'll be fine because we have tons of great ones.

                                    I'd argue the starting back threes for each of the Super Rugby sides in NZ, would be good enough to start for plenty of other countries (look at Ireland for instance and some of the rejects they have on the wings).

                                    If Jordan is back fit, he is a lock, as is Telea. Need another fullback which is clearly Love.

                                    Probably take two more wingers, and for mine hard to look past Clarke and Narawa. I don't disagree with the assessment that Reece has been the best winger in Super Rugby this year, but he is supposed to be heading offshore... and also, his chaos-mode was never really that successful for the ABs in the past.

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                                    • M Mr Fish

                                      I think it's worth remembering that Havili has been one of the best performers at Super level over the last few years (he's largely been injured this year) and it's only when he's been asked to be a battering ram for the All Blacks that he's been ineffective. With a different strategy, it's possible that Havili can be a very good 12 for the All Blacks.

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                                      @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                      I think it's worth remembering that Havili has been one of the best performers at Super level over the last few years (he's largely been injured this year) and it's only when he's been asked to be a battering ram for the All Blacks that he's been ineffective. With a different strategy, it's possible that Havili can be a very good 12 for the All Blacks.

                                      This is flat out wrong

                                      The Chiefs ruthlessly exploited his shortcomings last year, and you can make the argument that the reason for the Crusaders winning thr final was Havili not being available

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                                        @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        I think it's worth remembering that Havili has been one of the best performers at Super level over the last few years (he's largely been injured this year) and it's only when he's been asked to be a battering ram for the All Blacks that he's been ineffective. With a different strategy, it's possible that Havili can be a very good 12 for the All Blacks.

                                        This is flat out wrong

                                        The Chiefs ruthlessly exploited his shortcomings last year, and you can make the argument that the reason for the Crusaders winning thr final was Havili not being available

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                                        @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        I think it's worth remembering that Havili has been one of the best performers at Super level over the last few years (he's largely been injured this year) and it's only when he's been asked to be a battering ram for the All Blacks that he's been ineffective. With a different strategy, it's possible that Havili can be a very good 12 for the All Blacks.

                                        This is flat out wrong

                                        The Chiefs ruthlessly exploited his shortcomings last year, and you can make the argument that the reason for the Crusaders winning thr final was Havili not being available

                                        Haven’t you heard the latest? He had a game at 10 and they ALMOST beat the Reds ! In Christchurch !

                                        Havilli is the answer

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                                        • R ruggabee

                                          @family-man said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          Anyone think Daniel Rona has a chance of making all black squad?
                                          Every time I see him play he impresses me,always makes good decisions

                                          I've been calling for McMillan to start Daniel Rona at 11 over Nanai-Seturo since last year, he's much stronger in contact and is a superior defender than ENS, it also means you can have both Poihipi and Tupaea in the 23 (assuming ALB starts at centre).

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                                          @ruggabee said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          I've been calling for McMillan to start Daniel Rona at 11 over Nanai-Seturo since last year

                                          ENS is an important player for the Chiefs and his left boot is used often for exit plays. We hadn't seen Rona used as a winger until this season so how he would go was an unknown.

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