Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****
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i see the Remake of KotOR is all but cancelled, i find it fascinating as its a really good story and feels like a licence to print money....personally i would have made it into a film. the only thing i can think of is theyre afraid the twist is too widely known too have impact...but im not sure it is outside of the gaming community, i managed to avoid it (because i didnt have an xbox back in the day) until i played it a couple of years ago
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@Kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
kind of looks ok...but dont think it actually explains where this is sitting in the timeline other than the jedi seem to be in full swing so pre EPIII
Famously they claim before Maul a sith hadn't been seen for a long time so is this in the distant past...or just some retcon?
A millennia irrc. So more cannon busted if the Sith pop up. Probably just went back 100 years so they could get a Yoda cameo in. Being helmed by Leslie Hedland is not promising either.
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After a nice morning walk yesterday my boys suggested we fry up some Chicken tenders, get some Coke Zero and watch some Star Wars in honour of May the 4th.
After much arguing and figuring we had 3-4 hours to kill we decided on a Rogue One/A New Hope back to back feature……
A few thoughts.
Rogue One is THE absolute best of the “new” Star Wars. By these I’m not counting the prequel trilogy. I’m counting Mando, BOBF, Ahsoka, Kenobi, Sequel Trilogy etc. A perfect mix of cool new characters, terrific nods to the source material ( I love how seamlessly the two movies go together, brilliant homage from all involved ), action packed set pieces and a compelling story even if you know they’re all doomed from the start.
A New Hope ? Well it’s the OG, what more can you say.
But there are still SO many fun little flaws that are worth pointing out.
It was ridiculous how the battle over Scarif had literally hundreds of tie fighters and X Wings flying around yet for the Death Star battle a mere THIRTY rebel ships attacked, and in defence the Death Star launched NINE tie fighters ( we counted them, it wasn’t too tough )
Wouldn’t a safer method have been to launch all the fighters they could ? The Death Star would have had THOUSANDS of tie fighters in hundreds of docking bays. I reckon George Lucas and the team need to digitally add a truckload more to up the urgency. The battle is still classic but so leisurely in comparison.
Princess Leias “diplomatic mission” nonsense is hilarious in retrospect. No wonder DV could see through her bullshit right away.
DV talked pretty tough to Obi Wan considering he got his arse handed to him TWICE ( obviously counting the Kenobi series ) I can kinda accept the explanation that they were older, less acrobatic and cautious when dueling though…..
( Real explanation. They didn’t have good props or stunt coordinators in the 70s )
Wouldn’t the gunner on the Star Destroyer have shot the escape pod containing 3P0 and R2 for shits and gigs anyway ? Were they worried someone was going to audit their use of ammunition ?
Luke is a bit of a pansy to start with, hard to believe he goes from losing to a sandperson, getting pushed around by drunk aliens in a bar to being as powerful as he becomes, even for Star Wars…..
Harrison Ford kills it as Han Solo.
But above all even at my age the intro to Star Wars still gets me everytime, George Lucas absolutely struck gold and created movie magic.
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@canefan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@MN5 CGI advances have been significant since 1977...
I’ve noticed that too, I still think they need to add a few more ships in the background for the New Hope battle scene I talked about.
Not like they haven’t done it already…..
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@MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@canefan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@MN5 CGI advances have been significant since 1977...
I’ve noticed that too, I still think they need to add a few more ships in the background for the New Hope battle scene I talked about.
Not like they haven’t done it already…..
Funny thing, IMHO when Lucas did the remastered version, added stuff to the Mos Eisley scene and other stuff, to me it felt overdone and unnecessary
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@canefan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@canefan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@MN5 CGI advances have been significant since 1977...
I’ve noticed that too, I still think they need to add a few more ships in the background for the New Hope battle scene I talked about.
Not like they haven’t done it already…..
Funny thing, IMHO when Lucas did the remastered version, added stuff to the Mos Eisley scene and other stuff, to me it felt overdone and unnecessary
Oh yeah I agree, some of those scenes are pretty gratuitous and totally unnecessary but my point is it can and in this case should be done. We don’t need to see a robot hitting another robot or Jawas falling off whatever that big beast is.
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@MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
It was ridiculous how the battle over Scarif had literally hundreds of tie fighters and X Wings flying around yet for the Death Star battle a mere THIRTY rebel ships attacked, and in defence the Death Star launched NINE tie fighters ( we counted them, it wasn’t too tough )
Isn't the Battle of Scarif the reason for so few fighters on the Death Star attack? It was all they had left?
Not sure how to justify the 9 tie fighers, in fact I'm surprised that George didn't add some in when he was
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@Nepia said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
It was ridiculous how the battle over Scarif had literally hundreds of tie fighters and X Wings flying around yet for the Death Star battle a mere THIRTY rebel ships attacked, and in defence the Death Star launched NINE tie fighters ( we counted them, it wasn’t too tough )
Isn't the Battle of Scarif the reason for so few fighters on the Death Star attack? It was all they had left?
Not sure how to justify the 9 tie fighers, in fact I'm surprised that George didn't add some in when he was
ruiningupdating the movie at various times.Yeah ok, possibly a fair call.
The nine tie fighters is my main gripe. There would be thousands on there just waiting for a moment like this.
One thing to admire about DV, he wasn’t afraid to get his hands dirty and he didn’t ask anyone to do anything he wouldn’t do.
THAT is leadership
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@MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Nepia said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
It was ridiculous how the battle over Scarif had literally hundreds of tie fighters and X Wings flying around yet for the Death Star battle a mere THIRTY rebel ships attacked, and in defence the Death Star launched NINE tie fighters ( we counted them, it wasn’t too tough )
Isn't the Battle of Scarif the reason for so few fighters on the Death Star attack? It was all they had left?
Not sure how to justify the 9 tie fighers, in fact I'm surprised that George didn't add some in when he was
ruiningupdating the movie at various times.Yeah ok, possibly a fair call.
The nine tie fighters is my main gripe. There would be thousands on there just waiting for a moment like this.
One thing to admire about DV, he wasn’t afraid to get his hands dirty and he didn’t ask anyone to do anything he wouldn’t do.
THAT is leadership
George was too busy adding the self indulgent bits MN5 mentioned before to add something actually important like a fleet of ships to go with the original 9
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@canefan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@canefan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@MN5 CGI advances have been significant since 1977...
I’ve noticed that too, I still think they need to add a few more ships in the background for the New Hope battle scene I talked about.
Not like they haven’t done it already…..
Funny thing, IMHO when Lucas did the remastered version, added stuff to the Mos Eisley scene and other stuff, to me it felt overdone and unnecessary
i didnt realise there had been that many changes (especially the han shot first scene), the Jabba scene is the one that gets talked about the most obviously
i dont have a problem with most of the changes (quality of some of the cgi aside, i think peter jackson did better in LotR than some of the 2003/2011 star wars stuff), i think in hind sight as ive got older and you learn how big the rest of the star wars universe is...seeing as this is the only normal civilian town we come across...is cloud city the only other one?.....in the original trilogy, its kind of good too flesh it out, otherwise the only normal "people" we see are in the cantina....but yeah, add some more tie fighters...weird he stopped changing things after they left Tatooine.....
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@Kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@canefan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@canefan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@MN5 CGI advances have been significant since 1977...
I’ve noticed that too, I still think they need to add a few more ships in the background for the New Hope battle scene I talked about.
Not like they haven’t done it already…..
Funny thing, IMHO when Lucas did the remastered version, added stuff to the Mos Eisley scene and other stuff, to me it felt overdone and unnecessary
i didnt realise there had been that many changes (especially the han shot first scene), the Jabba scene is the one that gets talked about the most obviously
i dont have a problem with most of the changes (quality of some of the cgi aside, i think peter jackson did better in LotR than some of the 2003/2011 star wars stuff), i think in hind sight as ive got older and you learn how big the rest of the star wars universe is...seeing as this is the only normal civilian town we come across...is cloud city the only other one?.....in the original trilogy, its kind of good too flesh it out, otherwise the only normal "people" we see are in the cantina....but yeah, add some more tie fighters...weird he stopped changing things after they left Tatooine.....
Hundreds of tie fighters in the background wouldn’t take anything away from Luke’s heroics as there’s no way they could fit in the gap to destroy the Death Star.
While I’m griping…..why the fuck did Chewie not get a medal and why the fuck did Wedge ( the only other survivor if I'm not mistaken ) not even get on the podium ?
Also when Porkins got shot ( typical, fat slow guy gets tagged first ) one of the pilots tells him to ‘eject’
Haha what the fuck ? Eject where ? Into space with no spacesuit ?
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@MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@canefan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@canefan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@MN5 CGI advances have been significant since 1977...
I’ve noticed that too, I still think they need to add a few more ships in the background for the New Hope battle scene I talked about.
Not like they haven’t done it already…..
Funny thing, IMHO when Lucas did the remastered version, added stuff to the Mos Eisley scene and other stuff, to me it felt overdone and unnecessary
i didnt realise there had been that many changes (especially the han shot first scene), the Jabba scene is the one that gets talked about the most obviously
i dont have a problem with most of the changes (quality of some of the cgi aside, i think peter jackson did better in LotR than some of the 2003/2011 star wars stuff), i think in hind sight as ive got older and you learn how big the rest of the star wars universe is...seeing as this is the only normal civilian town we come across...is cloud city the only other one?.....in the original trilogy, its kind of good too flesh it out, otherwise the only normal "people" we see are in the cantina....but yeah, add some more tie fighters...weird he stopped changing things after they left Tatooine.....
Hundreds of tie fighters in the background wouldn’t take anything away from Luke’s heroics as there’s no way they could fit in the gap to destroy the Death Star.
While I’m griping…..why the fuck did Chewie not get a medal and why the fuck did Wedge ( the only other survivor if I'm not mistaken ) not even get on the podium ?
Also when Porkins got shot ( typical, fat slow guy gets tagged first ) one of the pilots tells him to ‘eject’
Haha what the fuck ? Eject where ? Into space with no spacesuit ?
I think we need to give the film a fair amount of leeway. It was revolutionary at the time. Porkins, always makes me chuckle. Chewie did get a raw deal coming up empty on the medal table
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@MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
Also when Porkins got shot ( typical, fat slow guy gets tagged first ) one of the pilots tells him to ‘eject’
Haha what the fuck ? Eject where ? Into space with no spacesuit ?
Maybe the whole cockpit goes like an F-111
