All Blacks 2024
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New Zealand v England
Forsyth Barr Stadium, Dunedin
Saturday, 6 July, 2024 Referee: Nika Amashukeli (GRU)
Assistant Referee 1: Nic Berry (RA)
Assistant Referee 2: Jordan Way (RA)
TMO: Eric Gauzins (FFR)New Zealand v England
Eden Park, Auckland
Saturday, 13 July, 2024 Referee: Nic Berry (RA)
Assistant Referee 1: Damon Murphy (RA)
Assistant Referee 2: George Myers (RA)
TMO: Brett Cronan (RA)New Zealand v Fiji
Snapdragon Stadium, San Diego, CA
Saturday, 20 July, 2024 Referee: Matthew Carley (RFU)
Assistant Referee 1: Damon Murphy (RA)
Assistant Referee 2: Luke Rogan (USAR)
TMO: Ian Tempest (RFU)https://www.world.rugby/the-game/high-performance/officiating/925086
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New Zealand v England
Forsyth Barr Stadium, Dunedin
Saturday, 6 July, 2024 Referee: Nika Amashukeli (GRU)
Assistant Referee 1: Nic Berry (RA)
Assistant Referee 2: Jordan Way (RA)
TMO: Eric Gauzins (FFR)New Zealand v England
Eden Park, Auckland
Saturday, 13 July, 2024 Referee: Nic Berry (RA)
Assistant Referee 1: Damon Murphy (RA)
Assistant Referee 2: George Myers (RA)
TMO: Brett Cronan (RA)New Zealand v Fiji
Snapdragon Stadium, San Diego, CA
Saturday, 20 July, 2024 Referee: Matthew Carley (RFU)
Assistant Referee 1: Damon Murphy (RA)
Assistant Referee 2: Luke Rogan (USAR)
TMO: Ian Tempest (RFU)https://www.world.rugby/the-game/high-performance/officiating/925086
@Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Saturday, 6 July, 2024 Referee: Nika Amashukeli (GRU)
One of the stars from RWC2023. Put in really good refereeing performances.
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Good to see Taylor back considering Sami T seems off the pace and Asafo Aumua is OOA until July
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I don't think it's strange to go overseas for 3 years on 2.2 million per, one of the highest wages in rugby. He still could be back eighteen months before RWC, if the desire is still there. The article is a bit of nothing, NZR in talks to see if they can get experienced ABs back shocker! There no inkling of a deal, just NZR want him back, rightly so. I'm sure the same happens in similar situations, with other players. Although thankfully it's rare
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@Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
By the time Mo'unga's returned, Robertson will have had at least a full season - possibly 2 - to develop options at 10. Either DMac isn't rated and the other NZ-based 10's aren't seen as worth of development or this is more fake news.
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@Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
By the time Mo'unga's returned, Robertson will have had at least a full season - possibly 2 - to develop options at 10. Either DMac isn't rated and the other NZ-based 10's aren't seen as worth of development or this is more fake news.
@Victor-Meldrew can't see it being fake, it didn't say NZR are offering anything apart from 'please come back' and if bbbr was also 29 and had done the same deal, they'd be saying the same thing! NZR would love all abs qualified players playing in NZ.
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@Victor-Meldrew can't see it being fake, it didn't say NZR are offering anything apart from 'please come back' and if bbbr was also 29 and had done the same deal, they'd be saying the same thing! NZR would love all abs qualified players playing in NZ.
Yeah, didn't mean to say the article itself was fake and I'm sure NZR are actually interested in getting players back to NZ. I'd just hoped the new coaching set-up would have looked to the future and develop the talent available in NZ.
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Yeah, didn't mean to say the article itself was fake and I'm sure NZR are actually interested in getting players back to NZ. I'd just hoped the new coaching set-up would have looked to the future and develop the talent available in NZ.
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Yeah, didn't mean to say the article itself was fake and I'm sure NZR are actually interested in getting players back to NZ. I'd just hoped the new coaching set-up would have looked to the future and develop the talent available in NZ.
Well they're at the under 20s as we speak, I think they are being thorough. Rather than 'you've turned down the black jersey,, you're a pariah', they're actively trying to get worthwhile players back.
NZR 'which NZ qualified players do you want in SR?'
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Yeah, didn't mean to say the article itself was fake and I'm sure NZR are actually interested in getting players back to NZ. I'd just hoped the new coaching set-up would have looked to the future and develop the talent available in NZ.
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Yeah, didn't mean to say the article itself was fake and I'm sure NZR are actually interested in getting players back to NZ. I'd just hoped the new coaching set-up would have looked to the future and develop the talent available in NZ.
You can only develop so far. If the talent isn't there, it isn't there.
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so is this different to Razor chasing Whitelock a month or so back?
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Yeah, didn't mean to say the article itself was fake and I'm sure NZR are actually interested in getting players back to NZ. I'd just hoped the new coaching set-up would have looked to the future and develop the talent available in NZ.
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Yeah, didn't mean to say the article itself was fake and I'm sure NZR are actually interested in getting players back to NZ. I'd just hoped the new coaching set-up would have looked to the future and develop the talent available in NZ.
They can do this whilst also bringing back Mo'unga. It's not mutually exclusive.
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Mo'unga made it clear in interviews his biggest motivation was money (plus some platitudes about 'experiencing different a culture' etc). It's hard to imagine him opting to take a massive pay cut
I think the rumours from last year are more likely to play out - Mo'unga, Frizell & Fainga'anuku all play for Tonga at the 2027 RWC
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Mo'unga made it clear in interviews his biggest motivation was money (plus some platitudes about 'experiencing different a culture' etc). It's hard to imagine him opting to take a massive pay cut
I think the rumours from last year are more likely to play out - Mo'unga, Frizell & Fainga'anuku all play for Tonga at the 2027 RWC
@Duluth I said that to people last year and people laughed at me haha.
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I will be horrified if NZR offers big dollars to drag players back from overseas, given the financial state they are in, and the risk for further fall-outs. This feels like a PR beat-up to me, with various people signalling how much they value getting the biggest public names playing for the All Blacks, to help them win.
I would prefer them supporting and developing those who commit to NZ rugby - but allowing players sabbaticals to extend their overall contribution to NZ rugby -
Jesus Christ, move on Razor. First it was Whitelock, now Mo'unga. These guys left for a reason, they clearly don't want to play for the ABs anymore, the former an obvious one now that he's retiring. Razor reaching out makes him look very desperate, maybe have some faith in the guys that are playing well here in NZ i.e. DMac. It just doesn't come across well in my view.
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Jesus Christ, move on Razor. First it was Whitelock, now Mo'unga. These guys left for a reason, they clearly don't want to play for the ABs anymore, the former an obvious one now that he's retiring. Razor reaching out makes him look very desperate, maybe have some faith in the guys that are playing well here in NZ i.e. DMac. It just doesn't come across well in my view.
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Jesus Christ, move on Razor. First it was Whitelock, now Mo'unga. These guys left for a reason, they clearly don't want to play for the ABs anymore, the former an obvious one now that he's retiring. Razor reaching out makes him look very desperate, maybe have some faith in the guys that are playing well here in NZ i.e. DMac. It just doesn't come across well in my view.
Agree.
But it's also downgrading super rugby. So much better for Razor to focus on the excellent quality still in NZ than players who have left that he's so desperate to get back
It also highlights how much lower the money is in NZ
This is where NZR needs (much) higher quality people running things in NZ. Robertson should have had a phone call by now to tell him to cut this crap
edit. And maybe also the remind him that he's now the AB not still the Crusaders coach
