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All Blacks 2024

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  • F frugby

    Considering Lord is made of glass, lock is shaping as a real problem position. Barrett and Tuipulotu to me lacks a real giant as a pairing, and outside of that the options are grim all-round.

    Vaa'i has been tried and failed, so they could stick with him, but still doesn't give you a big 2m+ lock... curious to see what they do.

    In time, as long as Lord can shake off the injuries, we'll have Holland and Lord which could well be Barrett and Whitelock mark two...

    Edit: Obviously meant Retallick and Whitelock...

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    @frugby said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
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    Vaa'i has been tried and failed, so they could stick with him, but still doesn't give you a big 2m+ lock... curious to see what they do.

    I don't go along with this comment mate. I don't think Vaa'i has failed.
    He hasn'tkicked open the door as yet, but far from a failure. I will be almightily surprised if he doesn't make ABs this season.

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      @Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      There will be a much better 10 who emerges before the next world cup.

      Mo'unga has a win percentage of 70% as an AB 10.

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      @nzzp said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      @Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      There will be a much better 10 who emerges before the next world cup.

      Mo'unga has a win percentage of 70% as an AB 10.

      So less than the AB's historical average?

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      • M Machpants

        England won't be scared of aura

        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/all-blacks-are-in-a-state-of-flux-and-england-can-take-advantage/SD7MDBBNQRBK7OFGOSLNCF4XUM/

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        @Machpants said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

        England won't be scared of aura

        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/all-blacks-are-in-a-state-of-flux-and-england-can-take-advantage/SD7MDBBNQRBK7OFGOSLNCF4XUM/

        Sir, please direct all reports of the sighting of Aura to

        https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/573/aura-watch/561

        We like to know she is alive and safe.

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        • Dan54D Dan54

          @frugby said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
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          Vaa'i has been tried and failed, so they could stick with him, but still doesn't give you a big 2m+ lock... curious to see what they do.

          I don't go along with this comment mate. I don't think Vaa'i has failed.
          He hasn'tkicked open the door as yet, but far from a failure. I will be almightily surprised if he doesn't make ABs this season.

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          @Dan54

          I think he will be in the squad do to the lack of options at lock.

          Hopefully he will kick on as he is now a senior lock in the squad. What a terrifying thought ๐Ÿ˜ณ

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          • M Machpants

            England won't be scared of aura

            https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/all-blacks-are-in-a-state-of-flux-and-england-can-take-advantage/SD7MDBBNQRBK7OFGOSLNCF4XUM/

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            Victor Meldrew
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            #1926

            @Machpants said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            England won't be scared of aura

            https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/all-blacks-are-in-a-state-of-flux-and-england-can-take-advantage/SD7MDBBNQRBK7OFGOSLNCF4XUM/

            I expect a pretty tough series. England seem to have turned the corner under Borthwick. For me, the ideal would be for Robertson to get his feet under the table and win both games - even if he has to be really conservative.

            Really looking forward to this one.

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            • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

              @Machpants said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              England won't be scared of aura

              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/all-blacks-are-in-a-state-of-flux-and-england-can-take-advantage/SD7MDBBNQRBK7OFGOSLNCF4XUM/

              I expect a pretty tough series. England seem to have turned the corner under Borthwick. For me, the ideal would be for Robertson to get his feet under the table and win both games - even if he has to be really conservative.

              Really looking forward to this one.

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              @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              England seem to have turned the corner under Borthwick.

              Not sure I buy that.

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              • BonesB Bones

                @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                England seem to have turned the corner under Borthwick.

                Not sure I buy that.

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                @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                England seem to have turned the corner under Borthwick.

                Not sure I buy that.

                Very, very different team in the last 3-4 games. Borthwick and co. will be up for the win. Then again, they may pick a development side...

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                • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                  @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  England seem to have turned the corner under Borthwick.

                  Not sure I buy that.

                  Very, very different team in the last 3-4 games. Borthwick and co. will be up for the win. Then again, they may pick a development side...

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                  @Victor-Meldrew that would be when they scraped past wooden spooners Wales and Italy, got spanked by Scotland and got one good win against Ireland ((by a couple of points)?

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                  • BonesB Bones

                    @Victor-Meldrew that would be when they scraped past wooden spooners Wales and Italy, got spanked by Scotland and got one good win against Ireland ((by a couple of points)?

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                    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    @Victor-Meldrew that would be when they scraped past wooden spooners Wales and Italy, got spanked by Scotland and got one good win against Ireland ((by a couple of points)?

                    Yeah, It'll be a walkover. Anything less than 50+ points margin and Robertson should resign, eh? ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                      #1931

                      I think the Six Nations sides all dropped their standards this year (which is normal following a World Cup and I'd generally expect the same of the NZ and Oz, except they've both got new coaches). Wales and Italy may be the exceptions but the only way for both was really up, and it's hard to measure their competence given the drop of the other sides.

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                      • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                        @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        @Victor-Meldrew that would be when they scraped past wooden spooners Wales and Italy, got spanked by Scotland and got one good win against Ireland ((by a couple of points)?

                        Yeah, It'll be a walkover. Anything less than 50+ points margin and Robertson should resign, eh? ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                        @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        @Victor-Meldrew that would be when they scraped past wooden spooners Wales and Italy, got spanked by Scotland and got one good win against Ireland ((by a couple of points)?

                        Yeah, It'll be a walkover. Anything less than 50+ points margin and Robertson should resign, eh? ๐Ÿ˜‰

                        So you concede you were bullshitting? ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                            On tonight's performance alone Fakatava rules himself out of the squad.

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                            • BonesB Bones

                              @Victor-Meldrew that would be when they scraped past wooden spooners Wales and Italy, got spanked by Scotland and got one good win against Ireland ((by a couple of points)?

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                              @Bones

                              They beat Ireland, but lost to SA by a point and just lost to France at home in their last 7 games.

                              I say they are on the up

                              Will be a good test for us, especially upfront.

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                              • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                England seem to have turned the corner under Borthwick.

                                Not sure I buy that.

                                Very, very different team in the last 3-4 games. Borthwick and co. will be up for the win. Then again, they may pick a development side...

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                                @Victor-Meldrew England looking a decent outfit in their last few games, but hopefully the ABs will bring an intensity above what they are used to.

                                It will be a tough series, but the ABs really should win with the talent they have available.

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                                  @Bones

                                  They beat Ireland, but lost to SA by a point and just lost to France at home in their last 7 games.

                                  I say they are on the up

                                  Will be a good test for us, especially upfront.

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                                  Bones
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                                  @DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                  @Bones

                                  They beat Ireland, but lost to SA by a point and just lost to France at home in their last 7 games.

                                  I say they are on the up

                                  Will be a good test for us, especially upfront.

                                  I'd say they're about where they've been for the last however many years. They're up and down from game to game, extremely hard to track any improvement.

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                                    @DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                    @Bones

                                    They beat Ireland, but lost to SA by a point and just lost to France at home in their last 7 games.

                                    I say they are on the up

                                    Will be a good test for us, especially upfront.

                                    I'd say they're about where they've been for the last however many years. They're up and down from game to game, extremely hard to track any improvement.

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                                    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                    @DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                    @Bones

                                    They beat Ireland, but lost to SA by a point and just lost to France at home in their last 7 games.

                                    I say they are on the up

                                    Will be a good test for us, especially upfront.

                                    I'd say they're about where they've been for the last however many years. They're up and down from game to game, extremely hard to track any improvement.

                                    Itโ€™s only the All Blacks, not their bogey team Scotland which is lucky for them

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                                      @Bones

                                      They beat Ireland, but lost to SA by a point and just lost to France at home in their last 7 games.

                                      I say they are on the up

                                      Will be a good test for us, especially upfront.

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                                      @DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                      @Bones

                                      They beat Ireland, but lost to SA by a point and just lost to France at home in their last 7 games.

                                      I say they are on the up

                                      Will be a good test for us, especially upfront.

                                      You talking England or NZ...?

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                                      • BonesB Bones

                                        @DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        @Bones

                                        They beat Ireland, but lost to SA by a point and just lost to France at home in their last 7 games.

                                        I say they are on the up

                                        Will be a good test for us, especially upfront.

                                        I'd say they're about where they've been for the last however many years. They're up and down from game to game, extremely hard to track any improvement.

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                                        @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        @DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        @Bones

                                        They beat Ireland, but lost to SA by a point and just lost to France at home in their last 7 games.

                                        I say they are on the up

                                        Will be a good test for us, especially upfront.

                                        I'd say they're about where they've been for the last however many years. They're up and down from game to game, extremely hard to track any improvement.

                                        Again, England or NZ ...?

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                                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          @DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          @Bones

                                          They beat Ireland, but lost to SA by a point and just lost to France at home in their last 7 games.

                                          I say they are on the up

                                          Will be a good test for us, especially upfront.

                                          I'd say they're about where they've been for the last however many years. They're up and down from game to game, extremely hard to track any improvement.

                                          Again, England or NZ ...?

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                                          @booboo said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          @DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          @Bones

                                          They beat Ireland, but lost to SA by a point and just lost to France at home in their last 7 games.

                                          I say they are on the up

                                          Will be a good test for us, especially upfront.

                                          I'd say they're about where they've been for the last however many years. They're up and down from game to game, extremely hard to track any improvement.

                                          Again, England or NZ ...?

                                          New England

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