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All Blacks 2024

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    If we only select 6 loosies, who are then? Papali'i, Jacobsen, Sotutu, Blackadder, Finau and Savea? With Lakai selected as a so-called training member?

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    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

      If we only select 6 loosies, who are then? Papali'i, Jacobsen, Sotutu, Blackadder, Finau and Savea? With Lakai selected as a so-called training member?

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      @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      If we only select 6 loosies, who are then? Papali'i, Jacobsen, Sotutu, Blackadder, Finau and Savea? With Lakai selected as a so-called training member?

      That looks pretty close to me.

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        Who would be the next loosie if/when Blackadder is out injured?

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          i don't think either Jacobson or Blackadder are good enough for top level test rugby.

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          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

            Who would be the next loosie if/when Blackadder is out injured?

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            @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            Who would be the next loosie if/when Blackadder is out injured?

            Lakai as I think Blackadder will be used to cover 7 until Cane is back v Argentina.

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              Apparently Cam Roigard is making really good progress with his recovery and could be back sooner than expected.

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              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                i don't think either Jacobson or Blackadder are good enough for top level test rugby.

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                @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                i don't think either Jacobson or Blackadder are good enough for top level test rugby.

                Wouldn't quite go that far, but they aren't performing like the others on that list

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                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                  Who would be the next loosie if/when Blackadder is out injured?

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                  @KiwiMurph don't you mean, let's just not pick Blackadder because he'll get injured anyway and just select Lakai instead...

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                  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                    Apparently Cam Roigard is making really good progress with his recovery and could be back sooner than expected.

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                    @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    Apparently Cam Roigard is making really good progress with his recovery and could be back sooner than expected.

                    Do go on............details

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                    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                      @KiwiMurph don't you mean, let's just not pick Blackadder because he'll get injured anyway and just select Lakai instead...

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                      @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      @KiwiMurph don't you mean, let's just not pick Blackadder because he'll get injured anyway and just select Lakai instead...

                      My question was more if they wanted to bring Lakai only slowly and keep him as a training member rather than a full squad member even if injury struck the main squad - who would replace Blackadder.

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                        @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        @Duluth Bower, Taylor, Newell, Williams, Strange, Grace, Hotham, Havili, Reece, McLeod?

                        Those are the options I could see realisticly making the squad.

                        Christ on a bike I fucking hope not.

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                        @antipodean Not that I agree with it of course.

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                        • gt12G gt12

                          @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                          It's worth noting there's under 2 weeks from Razor's first squad naming until the first test

                          That may hint towards a more conservative squad selection initially.

                          It could also be an excuse to pick players he's familiar with

                          It looks like Grace, Drummond, Havili etc will be well rested, so there's that as well.

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                          @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                          @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                          It's worth noting there's under 2 weeks from Razor's first squad naming until the first test

                          That may hint towards a more conservative squad selection initially.

                          It could also be an excuse to pick players he's familiar with

                          It looks like Grace, Drummond, Havili etc will be well rested, so there's that as well.

                          …..Grace often rests during games as well to be fair

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                            You'll need someone in the loose forward mix who offers some versatility to cover multiple positions in a match-day 23. If Savea is the starting no.8 then Sotutu would only be involved if Ardie was also the 7 cover. And then we're back to needing someone else to cover 6 if required.

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                              @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              @KiwiMurph don't you mean, let's just not pick Blackadder because he'll get injured anyway and just select Lakai instead...

                              My question was more if they wanted to bring Lakai only slowly and keep him as a training member rather than a full squad member even if injury struck the main squad - who would replace Blackadder.

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                              @KiwiMurph if you're looking at a 6 then I would personally select Shields, pretty sure he's available and he's been much better than Ioane overall this season, he also provides much needed experience. If you want to select an out and out 8 then Brayden Iose is probably the next man up on form. If you're selecting a 7 to replace Blackadder then I would go Billy Harmon.

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                                England capped dick fingers Brad Shields?

                                the bots are getting so bad

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                                  England capped dick fingers Brad Shields?

                                  the bots are getting so bad

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                                  @mariner4life has he not been one of the form 6's in the comp? He's definitely an improved version of the 2016 Shields who dropped everything that came his way. Infact he's hardly put a foot wrong since coming back. Shields is probably the only other 6 in the comp that provides the physicality required for test match footy. Ioane is too inconsistent and Grace can't even dominate at Super level.

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                                    Is Shields even eligible after being capped for England?

                                    On another note, Shields is 33, he won’t get selected so I personally think that idea can be squashed pretty quickly.

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                                    • Landers92L Landers92

                                      Is Shields even eligible after being capped for England?

                                      On another note, Shields is 33, he won’t get selected so I personally think that idea can be squashed pretty quickly.

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                                      @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                      Is Shields even eligible after being capped for England?

                                      On another note, Shields is 33, he won’t get selected so I personally think that idea can be squashed pretty quickly.

                                      yeah, but all realities aside, he's a starter in the greatest super rugby team of all time, so he deserves a spot

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                                      • Landers92L Landers92

                                        Is Shields even eligible after being capped for England?

                                        On another note, Shields is 33, he won’t get selected so I personally think that idea can be squashed pretty quickly.

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                                        @Landers92 yeah he's eligible I'm pretty sure. Who do we select then if Finau and Blackadder aren't available? Razor isn't going to select Ioane, he's crumbled under pressure so many times and is far too inconsistent. Razor may go with Grace but the ABs won't dominate physically with him there. Who else is there? I mean if we're still picking Cane then why wouldn't Shields be in the mix? He's one of the form blindsides in Super this year.

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                                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                          @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          Is Shields even eligible after being capped for England?

                                          On another note, Shields is 33, he won’t get selected so I personally think that idea can be squashed pretty quickly.

                                          yeah, but all realities aside, he's a starter in the greatest super rugby team of all time, so he deserves a spot

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                                          @mariner4life you're flogging a dead horse with that statement. I'm intrigued as to who you would select at 6 for the ABs if Finau and Blackadder weren't available?

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